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    Questions after first roast..

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Had my very first roasting experience tonight after receiving my Peru Ceva Estate from Andy today.

    I tried 100g in a popper. Ambient temp was about 20 degrees.

    First crack started about 2:40m finished about 4 min mark then second crack started about 5 min and I pulled them out about 20 sec into second crack. Cooled beans in two colanders till cool.

    My questions are

    1. I coaxed the beans along with a wooden spoon. They were moving ok, but at times sluggish. Should I be stirring constantly to keep them moving, or should I roast less quantity so they move independently?

    2. The result looks ok but quite uneven, is that potentially because of lack of movement or popper too hot. It all happened so quick from start to finish. Should I modify things as recommended in other posts eg drill holes use extension cords or tilt popper etc.

    Anyway it is all very addictive and if I had time now, Id be outside practicing with the remaining 2.4kg of green beans* ;D





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    Re: Questions after first roast..

    Quote Originally Posted by 3C3B30303B2A2A5E0 link=1321356814/0#0 date=1321356814
    Had my very first roasting experience tonight
    Welcome to the other side Bennett!

    Quote Originally Posted by 3C3B30303B2A2A5E0 link=1321356814/0#0 date=1321356814
    should I roast less quantity so they move independently?
    in short... yep!

    You will read 1000s different takes on "correct popper roasting" here on CoffeeSnobs and the only right answer is the roasting method that works for you. Each pooer and environment is different, you couls have two poppers side by side and they will roast differently... these are not scientific tools!

    My suggestions for first time roasters in a popper:

    1. Use 80g of beans (fill to the top of the "shark fins" in the base of the popper if you dont have scales)

    2. Turn it on

    3. Turn it off at the first snaps of second crack and cool them.

    Thats it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3C3B30303B2A2A5E0 link=1321356814/0#0 date=1321356814
    The result looks ok
    Cmon, from that pic they look pretty amazing... well done. Look to be a great roast depth and should come-up well after a day or two rest.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3C3B30303B2A2A5E0 link=1321356814/0#0 date=1321356814
    quite uneven, is that potentially because of lack of movement or popper too hot.
    Both. Slow moving beans in a popper will roast uneven but having said that, sometimmes those roasts taste great as if becomes a wider band of roast depth and flavours.... like a 4 roast single origin blend really.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3C3B30303B2A2A5E0 link=1321356814/0#0 date=1321356814
    Should I modify things as recommended in other posts eg drill holes use extension cords or tilt popper etc.
    Nup... plenty of time to play later. Try with fewer beans and the time will extend a little. Dont get hung-up on the actual time or try to hit a target, instead slow it down enough so the finish time is less frantic and that will give you more control over when you stop the roast.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3C3B30303B2A2A5E0 link=1321356814/0#0 date=1321356814
    all very addictive
    Even more so after you try the coffee.

    Take lots of notes so you can replicate (or avoid) the same technique later, roast plenty so you can rest it over a few days to find where you like it best... and most of all...

    Enjoy the journey and the learning

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    Re: Questions after first roast..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 022D273A430 link=1321356814/1#1 date=1321367770
    Each pooer and environment is different
    I thought we were talking about coffee not toilets. ;D

    Quote Originally Posted by 7F505A473E0 link=1321356814/1#1 date=1321367770
    My suggestions for first time roasters in a popper:

    1. Use 80g of beans (fill to the top of the "shark fins" in the base of the popper if you dont have scales)

    2. Turn it on

    3. Turn it off at the first snaps of second crack and cool them.

    Thats it.
    Thanks Andy, I needed some concrete beginner advice to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7F505A473E0 link=1321356814/1#1 date=1321367770
    instead slow it down enough so the finish time is less frantic and that will give you more control over when you stop the roast.
    Thats exactly how it was, really frantic at the end. One thing I can say is that the cracks were really easy to differentiate.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7F505A473E0 link=1321356814/1#1 date=1321367770
    Welcome to the other side Bennett!
    Quote Originally Posted by 7F505A473E0 link=1321356814/1#1 date=1321367770
    Enjoy the journey and the learning
    As always Andy, thanks for taking the time to help out a beginner, much appreciated. :)



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