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    Gave it a go but I think Ill buy roasted

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    While I was out shopping for parts for the machine I picked up a kilo of beans just to try this whole roasting thing. Admittedly I only tried roasting in a pan on a stovetop. So I roasted 6 small batches of about 50-80gms of beans a piece.

    The good

    No scorched beans, no oily beans, not a lot of smoke, nice colour, quite even and a comparable colour to the roasted beans I have. First crack the shortest was about 5mins and the longest about 12mins.

    Second crack was about 3-5mins afterwards in all batches. Dumped all beans on first signs of secnd crack. Cooled by
    sifting between bowls and cooled to room temp in about 2-3mins.

    The beans all looked okay, nothing wildly wrong looking, but they all had zero smell, zero flavour even
    36hrs after roasting. Nothing, nada, just like cardboard really. I ground some up and sure I got a nice looking shot with crema but once again no flavour, just kind of thin and a bit like instant to be honest.

    Im a bit disappointed that all that effort and not even a vague coffee bean sniff... :-/ so for now, Im going to buy roasted. id rather spend my money on something I can drink. So far the roasting bug has not hit.

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    Re: Gave it a go but I think Ill buy roasted

    Try a popper claraflo. You will get much better results.

    Best to rest your beans for 4-7 days as well.

    Good luck!

    Chris

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    Re: Gave it a go but I think Ill buy roasted

    how did your rest the beans? 4-7 day rest is definitely best most snobs on here will try them from day 3 onwards and see how they develop and most would be resting them in one way valve bags which i think is the ideal way to rest them.

    Dont give up on roasting, its a journey like the rest of coffee!

    Try a popper or a corretto!

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    I put them in airtight tupperware for 2 days, just ground one lot up today. Leaving the rest for the recommended time but I dont have much hope as they have no smell at all. Ive only got about 400gms of greens left now. Not sure I want to go out and spend more $$ on equipment just for that. Maybe Ill leave them in the back of the cupboard for a while and fiddle around with it another time. :-/

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    Re: Gave it a go but I think Ill buy roasted

    What were the green beans like? Were they a good quality and of an acceptable age? Maybe try a different type from a different seller just to rule it out. Dont give up yet!

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    Re: Gave it a go but I think Ill buy roasted

    Get the popper from target, only $16! And youll easily make up that money back from the money you save buying green beans compared to brown.

    Roasting coffee on a stove is going to be a hit-and-miss affair.

    And if you got no flavour at all, like Pretzal said, check its the green beans and not you.

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    Re: Gave it a go but I think Ill buy roasted

    Dont give up, there is no reason why you cant be achieving decent beans with a bit of practice, and you wont look back.

    You could try the popper as suggested, or get a corretto setup for minimal cost, breadmakers second hand are low cost (did a quick search, a couple in perth for $15 - or sometimes free on the verge collections) and all you need is a cheap heat gun (ditto, $30).

    Its fun, addictive and cheap!

    Cheers

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    Re: Gave it a go but I think Ill buy roasted

    Different beans have different times after roasting before they have that lovely knock you off the wall smell, Most beans that smell really heavily of coffee tend to be well past the point at which they are most flavoursome. Which is why the coffee beans from the supermarket almost always have the lovely smell, yet often are mediocre with regards to the taste.

    Try your beans at the 4 and 5 day point, and see how they taste then.

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    I tasted one of my 3 day olds today. It tastes sour. So I went and got some roasted because I need something drinkable. :o I came to the conclusion that for the time being its more important for me to have good tasting coffee than it is to roast. It might take me a few months to come up with anything I can consume.

    I might keep an eye on the bean bay and if anything very inspiring comes up try again. But think Ill rely on professional help for my everyday cup. ;)

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    Re: Gave it a go but I think Ill buy roasted

    It shouldnt take you long at all to roast up decent beans. Mine have been very drinkable from the start. The CSer who I purchased the corretto setup from showed me one roast and I it was quite simple to repeat the process.

    Maybe you are doing something wrong? Is there any other CSers near you that you could catch up with and perhaps pick their brain, get their guidance on what you are doing etc?

    Also, some beans do not start tasting nice until over a week post roast. Give them another week and try again.

    I wouldnt give up just yet!

    Cheers

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    Re: Gave it a go but I think Ill buy roasted

    Quote Originally Posted by 222D203320272D2E410 link=1329891768/0#0 date=1329891768
    While I was out shopping for parts for the machine I picked up a kilo of beans
    Quote Originally Posted by 222D203320272D2E410 link=1329891768/0#0 date=1329891768
    just like cardboard really
    My stabs in the dark (so much easier if we can see and/or taste them) is:

    * Under roasted
    * Low grade / Old / stored badly

    As mentioned above, good beans (eg: BeanBay ) a popper and give them a few days rest and you should be producing something pretty good.

    1000s of CSrs cant all be wrong!
    ;D

    Of course, roasting isnt for everyone, I supply plenty of people that will never home roast. Just doesnt fit their lifestyle.

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    Ok, so I just ground up another lot of coffee from my testing batch this morning. Sourness seems to be markedly reduced and while its not spectacular it does taste smooth, neither bitter nor weak. I wouldnt buy this but its not exactly bin material either. Hmmm....I might make a small order on the next bean bay. You know, just to be 100% that roasting isnt for me. ;D

    Yeah I know, popper on the list too.

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    Re: Gave it a go but I think Ill buy roasted

    Be careful it can become addictive. Andy should have a health warning on the green bean part of BeanBay.* :) ;)

    Steve

    "Hello Im Steve and I am a green bean addict" ;D*

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    Interesting development. I had a little pile of quite possibly the absolute worst batch I roasted. I had at one stage chucked them into a tupperware container and theyve been sitting on my kitchen bench going stale for the past week. I opened the container today to reveal a pile of unevenly charred beans that looked pretty dire. But what the hell I had some grind problems this morning so I ground them up trying to get the grind settings right again.

    Whats this? That smells pretty yummy....lots of nice sniffs in that. Maybe I should just extract this and see what an abomination it is. Ok, well that extracted pretty well, the cremas quite stable, no nasty smells or bad tastes. Ok lets chuck some milk on it, coz I tasted that godawful revolting coffee from a cafe today and am desperate at this point.* ;D Sip, sip.....sluuurrrp!

    Verdict - that cafe must have been using Aldi pre-grind because seriously these home roast floor sweepings are kicking arse. Or maybe Im more fatigued than I thought.* ;D

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    Re: Gave it a go but I think Ill buy roasted

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    By now youre probably starting to realize why everyones being advising you to stick with it. When you are used to buying not so fresh or even something aged only a few weeks, it is both surprising and remarkable to taste your own roasts as they age from day to day. If you do keep up the roasts, no doubt you have more suspect ones. But I guarantee you will have some excellent results that you can only hope to reproduce. Its about then you start thinking about a larger green bean stash.

    And just think - Passing by that awful cafe you mention in the other thread just four more times will save enough for a popper too!

    Btw - personally Ive learnt to wait a few days at least before putting my roasts through my machine and I certainly dont let my wife sample them unless they are passable.



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