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    My First Time

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    After purchasing a decent coffee machine and grinder (Giotto Premium & Giotto (Anfim) Best), I decided it was time to give store-bought coffee the flick and try home roasting.

    I had read heaps in this forum and Sweet Marias. I needed a pop corn maker and some green beans - could it be this easy? and this cheap? Well it is that easy!! After purchasing a Black and Decker popcorn maker at KMart for $20, and some green beans locally at Bay Roasters, I was ready. As I was still a little sceptical, I didnt jump straight into the CoffeeSnobs polls and order more than i could handle...

    Easy? You betcha! I must say I was VERY impressed with how easy the process was and how good the beans look!! I say look, as I am still waiting for the beans to settle before I give into temptation and try some.

    Hey I even made 2 batches - Full City and Full City + (to use sweet Marias terminology); that way I can see which I prefe. The bean was a Brazil Monte Alegre, by the way.

    Any other newbies wondering whether to give home roasting a go - just do it!! It is so easy, and so rewarding. If you can make an acceptable espresso, home roasting is a piece of cake. And pay around 25% of the cost of stale, store-bought coffee!!!

    Now, which of the coffees do I want from the May polls.....

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    Twosheds, your post is very encouraging to all us novices. It demystifies the whole thing. If we can make toast, I reckon we can do anything given the right -- and very simple --equipment required. How many grams of beans did you do?

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    Any other newbies wondering whether to give home roasting a go - just do it!! It is so easy, and so rewarding. If you can make an acceptable espresso, home roasting is a piece of cake. And pay around 25% of the cost of stale, store-bought coffee!!!
    Well done 2sheds... the hardest part is convincing yourself that this might actually work.

    Once you have the first couple of roasts under your belt there is no turning back... but be warned, home roasting is addictive, just ask any CS member! :D


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    2sheds,
    Welcome. ;) You say you bought a decent a coffee machine and grinder, I reckon that pair would qualify. :P
    Just a word of advice for the new roaster. Remember if you are roasting beans of single origin they will taste different to commercial blends. So if it tastes different/not that flash" it may have stuff all to do with your roasting. Ok, it might if you burn the bejesus out of them. :o

    The new monthly coffee club is an excellent way to purchase a small qty of beans to try and to rate your taste. That way you dont have buy a huge qty only to find out that particular bean is better in a blend. ;D


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    hello!

    I wish that was my first coffee machine set up... ;)

    Try a newbie pack from Andy, that is what I am still using and its great, a mix of different beans I get to play around and see what I lke :)

    Plus you dont have to wait for the polls to finish, thats the best part

    Clarexican

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    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1114646919/0#1 date=1114673569
    Twosheds, your post is very encouraging to all us novices. It demystifies the whole thing. If we can make toast, I reckon we can do anything given the right -- and very simple --equipment required. How many grams of beans did you do?
    Robusto,

    I made about 100g of Monte Allegro Brazil and thae same of PNG Kimmel A. The popcorn make will do about 50g in around 6 min for a dark roast.

    Interesting - I didnt realise that the beans rosat at quite different rates. Wilst both came to first crack in about 3.5 minutes, the PNG Kimmel A went to second stage much quicker than the Brazil.

    And the PNG Kimmel A !! What a wonderful coffee. I drank all of it in the first day! A very tasty coffee. Chocolate, sweet and very aromatic; probably the best coffee I have ever tasted...!!

    I roasted it in 2 batches; one lighter roast and one very dark roast (Full City+ to Light Vienna) and then mixed it. Yum, Im off to make another coffee....!! ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1114646919/0#2 date=1114679190

    Well done 2sheds... the hardest part is convincing yourself that this might actually work.

    Once you have the first couple of roasts under your belt there is no turning back... but be warned, home roasting is addictive, just ask any CS member! :D
    Andy,

    Addictive it is!! I got up at 5am this morning to try some more coffee, and roast some more PNG Kimmel A and maybe some Harrar or Costa Rica Rio Negro....mmmmm....coffee...mmmm....

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    Hi 2sheds,
    Believe it or not, a month ago, I never even knew there was such a thing as home roasting and 2 weeks ago I assumed that it was going to be something Id try a couple of times and give up on. *I dont know if you read my first post and the replies, but let me tell you -*on a scale of 1 to 100, with 75 being acceptable enough to keep going, Im rating the home-roasting experience at 100. *Just had two Bali/Peru blends and they were FANTASTIC.
    The other thing is - Heat gun roasting is EASY. *Not the fine science I though it would be/ *Id also boast that I believe that my roasting set up and patented bean cooler could not be improved upon by a machine apart from replacing manual stirring. *You get to see everything and can adjust the heat easily and quickly. *
    This is how hooked I am. *Im going to England for 2 weeks on Monday and Im going to be drinking TEA. *Will not even attempt to drink coffee because it will only end in disappointment.

    Home roasting is now a part of my weekly routine and will always be.
    Im more evangelistic about it than I am in espousing the virtues of Macs over PCs, but thats another story :-)

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    Good to see both of you into things - Im still new to it, but Ive got into poppers myself.

    2Sheds - I noticed you said 50g in 6mins in the popper? That sounds a bit fast, and a little light on for weight?

    The best thing I find to do with a popper is first throw out the crappy plastic lid it came with for the popcorn. Then double end a long tin can and ram in into the top opening of the popcorn maker (its a makeshift chimney). This way you should be able to get about 125 - 140 grams into the popper without overflowing it during the roast. You will need to manually stir the beans for the first minute or two till the beans start moving well on their own.

    Its a good amount which will go to FC at about 4-5mins and second at about 7-10mins (bean dependant) with a total time usually in under 15.

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    Hi, I definately agree with that,
    With the stoopid plastic lid thingy, there was a measuring scoop/butter melterer?( I had a laugh) I use 2 of those full of coffee per roast.
    With the chimmney I used a tin opener to make 4 evenly spaced holes around one end of the tin.

    I then tied them on to the popper with 2 long pieces of garden tie (you know the green plastic coated wire that you can get in really long rolls for $2 ?). I attached the tie at one end passed it under neath the popper and then tied it to the hole on the other side.

    The plastic doesnt melt and it prevents accidental knocking off of chimmney (which is not good! ) and make it easier to pour the beans out too. If you could get a longer metal tube, I think you could roast more beans, you seem to be limited not by the fan but by the beans being chucked out the top of the chimmney.

    I hope this helps. If my crazy ramblings dont make sense I can take a photo if you want :)
    Clarexican

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    Be careful 2sheds -- it gets a little hairy bouncing off the walls with an OD of caffeine!

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    Hi,

    Another alternative to tin cans as chimneys, is to get an appropriately sized glass chimney as you see on top of kerosene lanterns, from a camping supplies store (they usually have a range of spare chimneys to suit different size lanterns).

    In my case, I was able to get one that drops into the popper as a very neat fit and shaped like an oblong sphere with an identical length of tube of the same diameter extending from the top and bottom.

    Makes viewing the beans a piece of cake during roasting and the weight of the chimney keeps it in place while the roast is in progress. At the completion of the roast, I just remove the chimney using an oven mitt, pour the beans into a colander for cooling down, replace the chimney ready for the next roast and so it goes.

    Ive seen where some people use a simple bracket with a couple of springs attached to secure the glass chimney in place, but I havent found this to be necessary for the one I have, its quite heavy in its own right and stays put.

    Anyway, thought you might like to consider this as an option to the tin can.

    Cheers,
    Mal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyCJ link=1114646919/0#8 date=1114834842
    This way you should be able to get about 125 - 140 grams into the popper without overflowing it during the roast. You will need to manually stir the beans for the first minute or two till the beans start moving well on their own.

    Its a good amount which will go to FC at about 4-5mins and second at about 7-10mins (bean dependant) with a total time usually in under 15.
    Hi Andy,

    Do you have some kind of fan control for your popper? Ive never been able to get more than 100 grams of beans into my popper with the fan running at original speed. To go higher than this, Ive had to make a simple fan speed controller to allow me the option of increasing the fan speed to a maximimum of 20% above standard speed, otherwise the popper roast temperature becomes considerable excessive in a very short amount of time.

    Maybe its got something to do with the brand of popper, mine is a Tiffany unit that only cost me the grand sum of $17.85. Perhaps more expensive poppers have a better fan fitted to them. Just curious,

    Cheers,
    Mal.



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