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    Cocoa Beans

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Having roasted a few batches of coffee I wondered whether you can also roast cocoa beans at home and generate home made chocolate.

    Found this website www.chocolatealchemy.com and Im sure most have seen it but it is worth a read for those who havent. I read with interest that you can use the same roasters for cocoa beans as used for coffee, but then kept reading and quickly lost interest. Crikey what a lot of work . Ill stick to coffee.


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    I bought a big bag of Cocao beans about 6 months ago. They are very hard to find in Australia and very expensive when you do.

    Most chocolate makers bring the "cocoa nibs" in already roasted and processed as its far cheaper to do so overseas.

    A mate and I played with roasting them (which is the easy part) and then the conching was done. WHAT A CHORE. Mortar and pestle for hours but the result was a very slightly gritty 90%+ dark chocolate.

    We have designed our own conching machine and might get it built in the next month or so. It should take some of the labour out of the process and make it more fun.

    We have about 5kg of beans left and will post the results up on CS at some time in the future.


    Anyone tried roasting nuts?

    I was thinking about giving hazelnuts, peanuts and cashews a go soon. Might be just the thing for the Chistmas table!


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    Andy,

    Will the end result be worth the effort, I mean can you achieve a better chocolate in the end or is the fact that you can produce a final product more to your taste? From the website it looked like a lot of work and more than a little bit of mess. I like dark chocolate and I would guess most serious coffee drinkers do as well, but have found that 75% cocoa is about my limit. Tried 90% but could only eat it in small amounts with ice cream!

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    If anyone wants to play with cocoa beans please let me know.
    Here they are about AU$3 a kilo (thats already dried and even peeled) and if you want to pay for postage then I dont mind sending them.
    I can tell you that seeds of plants can be sent into Australia, there is no quarantine problem, so they should make it.

    I often throw them into the Hottop with a batch of coffee (not the Luwak Coffee) and they roast nicely.
    The smell is fantastic but dont expect the roasted beans to taste very chocolaty as they are more like roasted nuts. I try to grab them as soon as the machine dumps them, while they are piping hot, delicious!

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    Id have never thought of eating roasted cocoa beans. Can you describe the taste - is it like any particular type of nut and how much cocoa taste is there? Sounds like a nice winter treat.

    Just saw the Luwak Coffee web site - now Im sure I have seen everything! But I think Ill pass :)

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    Re: Cocoa Beans

    Correct me if Im wrong, but cocoa pods need to be fermented in order to make real chocolate. Its the cocoa "liquor" that they use to make chocolate. The liquor is then processed a bit further to create cocoa mass, or the main portion of the chocolate. From there you add milk and a bit of cocoa butter to make milk chocolate. Cocoa butter only makes white chocolate. Varying amounts of cocoa mass give you the %.

    Im no expert on chocolate by any means. Just seen enough videos to make you sick is all. I leave chocolate work to the experts, I prefer cookery.

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    I went to a factory (of sorts) in Apia in Samoa and he was keen only to sell Cocoa "Nibs". I could pass his details onto interested parties to make other enquiries if you want. However as far as importing "Nibs" would be the way to go as importing your own beans would be similar to importing coffee beans (gassing, certificates, etc.) The roasting process seems fairly starightfoward and very similar to coffee. Something that is very popular there (and I would imagine is in other Cocoa producing countries) is "Cocoa Samoa". Basically the ground up "Nibs" are used to make a brewed style of drink. I developed a bit of a taste for it while I was there. Generally drunk like coffee/Tea with milk and sugar. I suggest more sugar than less. Be warned however its fattening! Afterwards your lips feel like youve just put something like lanolin on them.

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    Re: Cocoa Beans

    Cocoa liquor is not the fermentation juices, it is the liquid (melted) cocoa butter (and other compounds) produced by pressing roasted cocoa beans.

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    Re: Cocoa Beans

    Hi, I have been looking to get some cocoa beans, at most 5kg, but I ily. Want some cheap ones that I can use for school, (assignment on the Aztecs) anyone know were I can get some? (I am going for a price range of about $10 max)

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    Re: Cocoa Beans

    It would help if we knew where you were.

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    Sorry, im in Melbourne, Vic, 3095

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    Re: Cocoa Beans

    Quote Originally Posted by 7D5144446F435855425C5F535B300 link=1133860677/8#8 date=1291288682
    Hi, I have been looking to get some cocoa beans, at most 5kg, but I ily. Want some cheap ones that I can use for school, (assignment on the Aztecs) anyone know were I can get some? (I am going for a price range of about $10 max)
    5kg is a lot.

    My last purchase was 2.5kg.
    They were $25/kg so at that price $10 would only get you 200g.

    I think youll need to be more specific regarding how much you need and then youll probably still need to increase your budget.

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    Re: Cocoa Beans

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    200g is fine, really I just want enough to show the grade what they are and make some chocolate out of them. The 5kg was because I didnt wan more then that but I was happy to have that. Thanks for your imputs



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