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    CS Bean Club November 09 - Colombia Volcan Galeras Supremo + Guatemala Huehetenango

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Well Im still underwhelmed by the response to the Bean Club. Even though two beans were available for comment last month and the hype behind the Herbie I thought we would double the responses compared to previous Bean Bays.

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    With the large number of beans available in the BeanBay, well run the top two beans again this month.

    Too many beans to fit in the poll so Ive omitted some.

    Poll results will remain hidden until after tonights BeanBay. As usual it will run for a week before closing.

    Check other Bean Club threads for how theyve run in the past and you can still contribute to them.

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Well that was easy

    Only have 2 of those and one I intend to use to blend ;)

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    There - visible now.

    I didnt participate in this months BeanBay but I have six of them including some Longberry and WeeWee from last time ithey were up for grabs.


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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Dont forget to vote: 3 days to go
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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Shouldnt the poll stay open for a least a week after "pickup point" delivery so as to give time for those who use them to pickup, roast, rest and taste?

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 6D767F696A671E0 link=1257716438/5#5 date=1257984223
    Shouldnt the poll stay open for a least a week *
    Nope - the poll stays open for a week after creation for people to buy their beans and decide which they would like tio vote for. It will decide which bean(s) will be the focus bean(s) for the month

    The thread will stay open indefinitely for people to add roasting and tasting notes about the chosen bean(s). Check other Bean Club threads here

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    So your voting on a bean that you THINK might be good
    Too bad if you find out another one is much better or more of a suprise after tasting - the poll has already [s]bean[/s] been taken.

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 564D4452515C250 link=1257716438/7#7 date=1257992682
    So your voting on a bean that you THINK might be good
    Too bad if you find out another one is much better or more of a suprise after tasting - the poll has already [s]bean[/s] been taken.
    No shawty, they are ALL good - you might just make a hack of it when you roast it or simply not to your personal liking.

    I think the purpose is to identify which is most popular and thereby have the opportunity for more input.



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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Ok, I sort of get it now???
    But I still think the poll would be more useful as a voting tool to find out which bean is more popular after tasting.
    (maybe I dont get it)

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 58434A5C5F522B0 link=1257716438/9#9 date=1257995852
    But I still think the poll would be more useful as a voting tool to find out which bean is more popular after tasting.
    And then what? The next offerings will undoubtedly be different. But theres nothing stopping you from creating a different thread and poll to satisfy your curiosity. :)


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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 776C6573707D040 link=1257716438/9#9 date=1257995852
    Ok, I sort of get it now???
    To put it simply Shawty, if you have a bean that gets voted on this month roast it, try it and let us know what you thought.

    The vote is to only pick a bean (or two) that will be reported on each month. There is no vote for the most popular bean at the end. The most popular beans get written about anyway. Part of the intention about the Bean Club is to get stuff written about the less well-known beans.

    As I said, check other threads in the Home Roasting tips board. In particular this one:

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1247619572/0#0

    which followed from this thread:

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1245191328/19#19

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 57767D7D7A60130 link=1257716438/10#10 date=1257996756
    And then what? The next offerings will undoubtedly be different.
    Well... the next time that bean comes up in Beanbay I might try some.

    Quote Originally Posted by 757F6A7D7D726660130 link=1257716438/11#11 date=1257997196
    The vote is to only pick a bean (or two) that will be reported on each month.
    Quote Originally Posted by 757F6A7D7D726660130 link=1257716438/11#11 date=1257997196
    Part of the intention about the Bean Club is to get stuff written about the less well-known beans. *
    I now understand the intentions but fear that the beans with the best reputations would be the ones with the most votes and in turn are the ones reported on.

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 100B0214171A630 link=1257716438/12#12 date=1257997907
    Well... the next time that bean comes up in Beanbay I might try some.
    If you buy a bunch of grapes from the supermarket and like them, it doesnt mean youll enjoy the next crop. Coffee is the same. ;)


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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 74555E5E5943300 link=1257716438/13#13 date=1257998710
    If you buy a bunch of grapes from the supermarket and like them, it doesnt mean youll enjoy the next crop.
    If I knew where the grapes came from it would increase my chances of getting something similar rather than not knowing at all.

    Wines from certain areas seem to suit different people as well, surely that is a similar situation.

    And you never know, Andy might just get some more of a popular bean from the same crop. [smiley=wink.gif]

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 223930262528510 link=1257716438/12#12 date=1257997907
    the beans with the best reputations would be the ones with the most votes
    Perhaps, but some unknowns also get voted on - e.g. the Aceh.

    Quote Originally Posted by 223930262528510 link=1257716438/14#14 date=1258000472
    Andy might just get some more of a popular bean from the same crop
    Theres also a section on CS for such requests http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?board=Wishlist

    I would hope less popular beans get voted and become a crowd favourite. The Peru Ceja has also become a bean with a good reputation but it hasnt made it as one of the Beans of the Month

    Anyway, if i left the vote to the end of the month, I think you would find the usual suspects would still get voted.

    The only way around this would be to only have the relatively unknown beans in the poll but I think this would restrict participation. But it isnt just about reconfirming a beans reputation; someone might report on a different roasting profile that improved the bean (or not).

    Its not the CS Best Bean of the Month Club and, as I have said before, its not the CS Poll Voting club. I just made the initial selection process democratic.


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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Thanks for that explanation flynn
    I guess I thought that the poll was a quick way to see the best bean of the month as voted for by some CSrs and couldnt see how this was possible before tasting

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    I thought it was more about comparing roast method/level, rest time and end result being good/not so good...

    my brain hurts...

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 747C646E73170 link=1257716438/17#17 date=1258015828
    I thought it was more about comparing roast method/level, rest time and end result being good/not so good...
    I think you were a lot more "on track" than I was.

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    I didnt realise the bean club idea was so confusing. We are not voting on what we think the best bean is...we are voting on the one we wish to use as our bean of the month to all have a go at roasting and tasting and then sharing our notes on.

    It is like a book club. You do not read every book in the shop and vote for the one you liked most...you decide on a book for everyone to read that month/week and then get together and discuss the book.

    I went Columbian this month as I already have some and really dont need more green beans at the moment.

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Poll is now closed and the winnders are:

    • Colombian Volcan Galeras Supremo
    • Guatemala Huehuetenango SHB


    As the Eth. Harrar Longberry was only beaten by a nose, Im happy to see it discussed here as well.

    I have only tried roasting the Hue in a popper earlier this year so looking forward to giving it a go in the corretto.

    BTW, SHB stands for strictly hard bean for thjose who dont already know. This means it should be an relatively easy roaster.

    Anyone know of a good resource, preferably online, which lists the hardness/softness of beans? From what Ive discovered, the high altitude beans tend to be hard and the low altitude beans soft. I wonder how hardness is measured?

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 4D475245454A5E582B0 link=1257716438/20#20 date=1258406394
    Poll is now closed and the winnders are:

    • Colombian Volcan Galeras Supremo
    • Guatemala Huehuetenango SHB


    Well, well......

    2 beans I dont have..... :(


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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 252D353F22460 link=1257716438/21#21 date=1258406739
    2 beans I dont have.....
    So...

    Quote Originally Posted by 202A3F2828273335460 link=1257716438/20#20 date=1258406394
    As the Eth. Harrar Longberry was only beaten by a nose, Im happy to see it discussed here as well.
    Anyway, how much can the new Kellyville Bean Bay hold? I saw a fair bit of available space in your pic ;) Youve gotta try the HueHue at least.

    You know your a CS when .... it takes 3 digits to write down your green bean stash ;D

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 242E3B2C2C233731420 link=1257716438/22#22 date=1258407577
    Quote Originally Posted by 252D353F22460 link=1257716438/21#21 date=1258406739
    2 beans I dont have..... *
    So...

    Quote Originally Posted by 202A3F2828273335460 link=1257716438/20#20 date=1258406394
    As the Eth. Harrar Longberry was only beaten by a nose, Im happy to see it discussed here as well.
    And I dont have that one either... :(


    Quote Originally Posted by 242E3B2C2C233731420 link=1257716438/22#22 date=1258407577

    Anyway, how much can the new Kellyville Bean Bay hold? I saw a fair bit of available space in your pic ;) Youve gotta try the HueHue at least.

    You know your a CS when .... it takes 3 digits to write down your green bean stash *;D
    Well the expanded bean depot is getting quite a bump this month mate, though not quite taking me to 3 figures just yet.... ;D

    Had the Wee Wee before, yep nice bean, just dont have any at present.

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    Re: CS Bean Club - November 09

    Quote Originally Posted by 454D555F42260 link=1257716438/23#23 date=1258408646
    on Today at 8:25am:
    2 beans I dont have...
    Hey! dont fret, you can try a shot (or two) from my order. :D ;)

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    Re: CS Bean Club November 09 - Colombia Volcan Galeras Supremo + Guatemala Huehetenango

    Well after now having one of the longest thread names on CS, lets get started.

    Beans are being delivered (except for those who already have theirs, of course)

    You might also want to check this thread for some tips on roasting the HueHue.

    Do a full search of CS for huehuetenango and you will find more, but the Bean Club is also about trying new things.

    I also found these notes from remnants of the CS Wiki still floating about. Damn, these almost make me want to hit BeanBay and stock up *:-/

    20070414 Colombian Volcan Galeras Supremo Bold
    This is a favourite base for many CSrs due to the medium/heavy body and the caramel tones in the cup. It is also an easy roasting bean due to its large size and great grading.
    This Colombian Volcan Galeras have been hand sorted and graded as Supremo Bold and are one of the largest beans are produced in Colombia. It produces a medium/heavy bodied coffee with great grind aroma and a slight caramel sweetness in the aftertaste.


    20080602 Guatemala Huehuetenango SHB
    This is the Guatemalan Huehuetenango, popular in the green bean offerings for its rich and floral aroma with a great body
    20081118 Guatemala Huehuetenango
    The high altitude at origin produces this Strictly Hard Bean (SHB). In the espresso cup at a CS8 you find a mid bodied rounded balance of sweet fruit flavours and enough acid to give a sharp finish or you can roast it to CS9 to mellow the citric bite. Great coffee and easy to roast.

    0080602 Ethiopian Harar Longberry Organic-FT
    This Ethiopian Harar Longberry is certified organic by the Fairtrade Oromia Co-op. They are dry processed and produce a stunning mid bodied, rich, earthy espresso. Ethiopia, formerly known as Abyssinia, is the origin of all coffees of the world. Longberry indicates the finest sorted Ethiopian coffee beans and one of the best African coffees available. It displays a sharp winy acidity as its dominant characteristic, followed by a rich aroma and thick almost tangy flavor. This is a very bold, intense, edgy coffee. Truly one of the worlds great coffees. It adapts to a variety of roast profiles. Recommended Roast Profile: Full City + for added bitter-sweetness, Lighter for more brightness.

    I also recommend having a stroll through Knockbox for info on ghosts of BeanBays past, and learn a bit too such as this:

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1149912386

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    Re: CS Bean Club November 09 - Colombia Volcan Galeras Supremo + Guatemala Huehetenango

    Wow, has no one posted on the beans of the month?

    I had skipped this one as, just as my Columbian was ready to open, I was struck with the flu for a couple of weeks and had no taste so could hardly put in any notes at the time. I had come back to have a look what others had said and cannot find anything. Now that my tastes are back I was thinking of roasting some more Columbian to add to the notes here, but not so sure now???

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    Re: CS Bean Club November 09 - Colombia Volcan Galeras Supremo + Guatemala Huehetenango

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    Nope - I was considering providing last rites for the BeanClub. Participation was dwindling despite having two beans in the previous month.

    Last month there was also two. I have neither... well I have last seasons HueHuetenango. I roasted some but sold it to a workmate before I tried it.



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