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    Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

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    Hi all,

    Ive just received my first green bean order - the starter pack consisting of Honduras Los Bancos, Peru Ceja de Selva Estate, Ethiopian Gambella Sundried and Brazil Pulped Natural. Im heading to my Dads for the weekend where well assemble and test my KKTO-style roaster (of which, more later). Naturally the moment we get that agitator spinning Ill want to throw in a load of beans and get roasting. The trouble is Ive never roasted before, and dont yet have any way of measuring the temperature of the bean mass.

    Of the four varieties mentioned above, which do you think would be the most tolerant of all the inaccuracies and the mistakes Im bound to make?

    What times and temperatures would you recommend for that variety in a KKTO?

    Lastly, how would you recommend handling it after roasting, given that well be keen to try that first batch the same day?

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    Hiya Ed,

    I cant speak for the KKTO but the peru was the 1st green Id roasted. Fairly easy and forgiving bean to roast IMHO! If you have your cs membership card you can refer to that scale and aim for a cs8 - cs9. Once you have tried a couple of roasts (generally I try it 3 days post roast - others cant wait) youll get a feel and and a taste for how YOU like it! Also get yaself some oneway valve bags from BeanBay for storage.

    Enjoy the journey ;)

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    Quote Originally Posted by 6B6E696F736067010 link=1267707711/1#1 date=1267708462
    I cant speak for the KKTO but the peru was the 1st green Id roasted.
    Thats good to know. *Ive got a bag of the Peru sitting here, awaiting a breadmaker (will get the sample pack once I can reliably avoid turning these beans to ash).

    Let us know how you go Ed :)

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    Quote Originally Posted by 18392A3C2F391E5D0 link=1267707711/0#0 date=1267707711
    Im heading to my Dads for the weekend where well assemble and test my KKTO-style roaster

    What times and temperatures would you recommend for that variety in a KKTO?

    If you get the overall roast chamber volume right it will practically roast itself
    Always here to help *;)
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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    Quote Originally Posted by 1A3E373734340E1A3E223C3E510 link=1267707711/3#3 date=1267746412
    If you get the overall roast chamber volume right it will practically roast itself
    How will I know when it is right, aside from noticing that my beans start roasting themselves? :)

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    You need to read all my and other DIY KKTO build posts

    1] If you have a roast chamber volume from 7 to 9 lt
    2] Have good speed & mixing agitation

    You should have
    1st crack between 9 & 12 min
    2nd crack about 6 min after

    Times will change slightly.Depends on the bean origin and weight you plan to roast per batch

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    Out of the suggested beans i would suggest the Brazilian pulped naturals.
    Why? Because its the cheapest of the mentioned coffee and i would feel less bad about over or under roasting it :)

    When first getting used to roasting its best not to attempt roasting a Jamaican Blue Mountain or Porta Rican Younco Selecto.

    The Honduras Los Bancos & Peru Ceja de Selva whould both roast evenly but the Ethiopian Gambella will not. The Brazil may roast a little bit uneven compared to the other 2 but is very versatile.

    As for trying it as soon as it cools? Why not? Id be inclined to leave it an hour or 2 first though to let it breathe a bit first.

    Good luck and welcome to the beginning of the rest of your life....coffee :D

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    Great topic.

    I just received my starter pack also and was unsure of where to start.

    Looks like Ill give the Brazillian pulped naturals a go first.

    Big John

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    What are you using for a roaster Big John?

    Good luck with it :)

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    My trusty heat gun and S/S bowl.

    I love the smell of burning chaff and arm hairs in the morning :)

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    Speaking of chaff, my partner couldnt help but think how pretty the chaff was ("like fairy dust") as the garbos upturned the bin into the truck yesterday & the chaff Id emptied into it sprinkled over the truck like tinkerbell was about to make it fly.

    So how are things progressing Ed? Ordered those extra beans yet to try to get consistency of roast? Ill give you an update on the Gambella sundried on the weekend.

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    Quote Originally Posted by 1338360E1B3E393F510 link=1267707711/9#9 date=1268818866
    My trusty heat gun and S/S bowl.

    I love the smell of burning chaff and arm hairs in the morning
    Hahahaha ;D :D
    I skipped the dog bowl and went for a popper set up complete with a partially washed beans can :)

    I really miss that burst of dusty green coffee dust you get as it gets turned it on.

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    Okay, Ive been through the starter pack with mixed results. For the first roast I had no seals, no insulation and (as it turns out) a dud agitator. All those issues have been corrected and my last roast, 600g of the PNG Wahgi AA from the March 14th BeanBay green bean sale, was straightforward and very even.

    And heres the roaster.

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    Great topic. I received my starter pack as well and was wondering where to start and what beans would be kind to me :) . My pack contained 2 x Ethiopian Gambella Sundried, Honduras Los Bancos and Ethiopian Harrar Longberry.

    Any suggestions on the best one to start with and to what level I should take it? Im potentially looking at roasting with the Hottop B.

    Cheers
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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

    Id leave the Gambella for later - its a small bean and doesnt roast particularly evenly, and its always more encouraging to start with an even roasting bean. The Honduras did a good job for me, Ive not roasted that particular Harrar to comment.

    Theres nothing quite like seeing beautifully evenly roasted beans tinkling around in the Hottops cooling tray - apart from tasting the result three days later! ;D

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    Re: Tips for a first time roaster with the starter pack

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    Cheers Greg. Well be in touch soon to arrange the Hottop and give the Honduras a go.




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