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    Roasting stinks

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    So after nearly 18 months in my apartment, and with much interest and discussion with neighbours, I have received my first roasting complaint.
    To give a quick background, this woman lives on her own (middle aged) with 12 cats, is susceptible to late night infomercials (from what I can see in her apartment) and is one the most sadistic people I have ever met.

    When I was roasting this evening, and mind you, this was two batches of Sidamo Guji that smelt so damn good I tried to bask in the fumes, she comes up and starts yelling at me and telling me that these horrible fumes are filling up her apartment (she is on the 3rd floor at the front, and I was roasting out the back) and that it is a disgrace that I am so disrespectful and how dare I involve myself in a commercial venture that has fumigated her whole apartment and is even seeping in through gaps in the window.
    Now as much as I have feelings of dislike for this woman, I do respect what she is saying and how it effects other people in the building.

    So, how can I reduce the smell? I am currently roasting with a coretto with a fan blowing over the pan and HG. I highly doubt I am going to be able to reduce the smell and Im not all that interested in a Behmor or Gene, nor can I really afford a Hottop, I like the look of the Quest but Im not sure any of these options are going to reduce the smell.

    Is my dream over?
    Ben

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    1. Become a cat lover.


    2. You should have her over for a coffee. Thatll shut her up, unless she hates coffee as much as life itself.

    3. Is she single? Hook her up with an uncle or something.

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    Re: Roasting stinks

    Are pets allowed?

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    Re: Roasting stinks

    Yes I think the best option is to change to another roaster

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    I guess a clever CSer out there needs to design a homemade afterburner

    Tough one bj. Anywhere else you can roast? How about a large fan to blow the smoke in the opposite direction to her place?

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    Tell her its better than having a meth lab downstairs.

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    Do they sell super size cans of Lynx...

    Err maybe not a great idea... All the other women will be knocking at ya door as well ;D

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    Just tell her to get stuffed. Or put some lamb chops on a BBQ next to the roaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 333C263D3C3B32393C2F342731646C6267550 link=1270817082/7#7 date=1270819142
    tell her to get stuffed
    Is that you Darryl Kerrigan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7B45424973434A73584449736E494D422C0 link=1270817082/1#1 date=1270817569
    1. Become a cat lover.


    2. You should have her over for a coffee. *Thatll shut her up, unless she hates coffee as much as life itself.

    3. Is she single? *Hook her up with an uncle or something.
    Quote Originally Posted by 46474D5E40455F2C0 link=1270817082/4#4 date=1270818325
    homemade afterburner
    Quote Originally Posted by 7B45424973434A73584449736E494D422C0 link=1270817082/5#5 date=1270818538
    Tell her its better than having a meth lab downstairs.
    Quote Originally Posted by 6D424B495E614D424D4B49414942582C0 link=1270817082/6#6 date=1270818572
    Do they sell super size cans of Lynx... *
    Quote Originally Posted by 4A455F4445424B4045564D5E481D151B1E2C0 link=1270817082/7#7 date=1270819142
    Just tell her to get stuffed.
    ;D ;D ;D Quoted for awesomeness.

    Im using a pretty decent fan and I dont really like cats, so Im still stumped....


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    Buy a Behmor, very little smell! ;)

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    Surely, 12 cats!! Doesnt that challenge something, apartment by-laws? Start complaining about the cats?

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    I would ask her on what basis she has for deciding that you are trying to run a commercial venture!!
    Perhaps set up an other fan and a more potent disgusting smell and blow that in her direction while you are roasting.
    use things such as rotting eggs, prawn heads etc. ;D

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    just ignore her to you get a notice to remedy / stop from the landlord / agent or bodycorp.....

    then call the local council ranger about the cats over and over again.

    other than that and the fan try to roast on a day with a breeze to help.


    You can also bring that Sidamo to my house and roast as much as you like if i can sample it :)

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    Re: Roasting stinks

    There are lots of *awesome* options here.

    Let me add to them a bit if I may:

    Apologise profusely for bothering her--but not for roasting. (The roasting is clearly legal, and as has been mentioned above, is no worse than a BBQ.)

    Ask her to help find a solution to bothering her--a time, a day, a breeze direction, a better venue, cautions to close her windows, etc. (This gets her involved in the solution and has as a given that you are going to continue roasting. "How can I avoid my roasting bothering you? What can you suggest?")

    If you have a kitchen exhaust fan you can try roasting indoors. This is what I do with the Gene--but let me tell you there is plenty of smell wafting from the exhaust vent outside!

    Good luck--difficult neighbours can be a real pain.

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    I think a Behmor might be your best low-cost option. From the several roasts Ive observed, it produces a good result. It is quiet and includes an after-burner so very little smoke and smell.

    This woman lives in an apertment building with 12 cats? She want be complaining to anyone as I say shed be breaking a few Body Corporate and/or Health regulations herself.

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    12 "CATS" how dose she smell your coffee fumes from your roasting over the litter box?? :-? :-? :-?

    Cheers Gra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 182D3E5F0 link=1270817082/16#16 date=1270860211
    12 "CATS" how dose she smell your coffee fumes from your roasting over the litter box?? :-? :-? :-?

    Cheers Gra. *
    What litter box ? They are all trained and thats why - She the owner, leaves the seat up *;D

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    I live in a smallish (12 unit) townhouse block. I roast probably once a fortnight or so. I do roast in the garage, but I have a flexi exhaust pipe that I stick out the window. Batch size is about 2kg, which produces a decent amount of smoke. The breeze dissipates the smoke pretty well, and I have no complaints from neighbours. Our two immediate neighbours are on the strata committee, as are we.


    Maybe you should look into being on the strata committee.

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    A sadistic, coffee hating, cat woman! :o Sounds a real sweetheart.

    I think the Behmor suggestion might be the answer (if you want to appease the cat woman). Corretto roasting does create a (beautiful IMMHO!) smell that does travel a way and permeates into everything. Someone who was once walking to my place said they could smell my Corretto roasting (on my patio) from way down the street. And if I dont shut my windows, the distinctive smell stays in the curtains for quite a while.

    12 cats in an apartment doesnt sound right. :-? Id check that.

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    If i was you id look into going into business with her......make your own kopi lowak!!!!!!! ;D

    Id go the behmor too.....and mod it ;D

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    Id be looking into whether shes allowed to keep 12 cats.

    If not, and being nice as suggested above, doesnt work, then politely ask her to mind her own business else youll mind it for her.

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    I have noticed that when my very furry dog helps me roast the smell goes right through hes coat.
    I think you should have a few of her cats over while you roast, the fumes will stick to the cats fur and she will get used to it.

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    12 cats are not legal unless shes a registered breeder- and I suspect thats not a goer in a flat....

    You might threaten to dob her in to the council...

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    I just spoke to the neighbour about the cats and supposedly shes only got 5 now (sold the others as part of a litter) but still 5 is excessive.

    Any way, she is not the problem (really), my roasting is. I am not all that keen on a Behmor - thinking maybe to use a kitchen extraction fan with a filter? Will something like this make a difference?

    Thanks for all the ideas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6A626D6B63393C080 link=1270817082/24#24 date=1270876921
    thinking maybe to use a kitchen extraction fan with a filter?
    I dont think it would work.

    And how would it be any different to any other strong cooking smell?

    Does the body corporate expect you all to eat out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6955485359584F5A52593D0 link=1270817082/25#25 date=1270877874
    Quote Originally Posted by 6A626D6B63393C080 link=1270817082/24#24 date=1270876921
    thinking maybe to use a kitchen extraction fan with a filter?
    I dont think it would work.

    And how would it be any different to any other strong cooking smell?
    I was thinking of having some kind of decent filter on it, but I also cant afford all that much so maybe it is about picking times when she is not home, making sure the breeze is going the right direction, and making sure my stars align....

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    if you could exhaust you smoke into a bucket you can knock a lot down by running a fine mist of water into it.

    smoke in bottom water spraying down

    we used something like this commercially for a smoke house for Xmas hams in a suburban area.

    lot of drama for one complaint, work with her on the issue.....
    tell her when your going to need to roast and set a time so she can shut the windows

    MEOWWWWW........ I had a laugh

    I often think of the source in Mosman venting out into the air with all those XXX million $$$ homes just down the street.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3A323D3B33696C580 link=1270817082/26#26 date=1270878173
    I was thinking of having some kind of decent filter on it, but I also cant afford all that much so maybe it is about picking times when she is not home, making sure the breeze is going the right direction, and making sure my stars align....
    Along the lines of what Leeham suggests above...

    Why not enclose the top of the BM/Pan so that you have control of the exhaust - some CSers have done this - and with the use of a variable output heatgun instead of a fixed output one, you can exercise excellent control of the roasting environment. You could even devise a simple cyclone separator to collect all of the chaff.

    You could also include a small hatch of some description in the BM/Pan lid that would allow you to "Try" the beans to monitor roast progress. Imagine it would be simple to rig something up.

    How you then control what remains of the exhaust, I dont know really but I do know that Dennis of Cuppacoffee put in a lot of research into suitable filtering options, before he established Dudley in the original Cuppacoffee roastery, as the use of afterburners was a very costly option to both install and operate.

    Hope this gives you some food for thought mate and from my experience, it never really pays to antagonise someone even if they are the biggest ratbag this side of the black stump. It only starts a "tit for tat" skirmish that only ever escalates, never subsides.... :-?

    All the best,
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    Leeham and Mal,

    Thanks very much. I like the idea you gave Mal - Ill have to re-read those threads of the cyclone separators and exhaust setups. Sure is food for the thought! ;)

    But completely agree about not infuriating her even more - hence why I am taking this approach.

    Thanks for all the help
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6D424B495E614D424D4B49414942582C0 link=1270817082/17#17 date=1270861431
    What litter box ? They are all trained and thats why - She the owner, leaves the seat upGrin
    You where right again AM ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


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    Having worked with a lot of criminals in the past, its amazing what smells you can cover up. Yes, they were caught but not because of the neighbours smelling what they were up to.

    Most of them had exhaust systems with charcoal and other filters built into ducting. It seems these were very effective in covering up what was actually going on in the rooms they were venting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 775A5E525F330 link=1270817082/28#28 date=1270892368
    It only starts a "tit for tat" skirmish that only ever escalates, never subsides....
    Aww shucks Mal, dont let logic and reason get in the way of a good ol neighbourly battle! :P

    Quote Originally Posted by 6352455C5D5A515C4A330 link=1270817082/31#31 date=1270973863
    Having worked with a lot of criminals in the past...
    Your background sounds interesting Pav Lad! Hydroponics salesman? Chemisty equipment specialist? Potassium hydroxide salesman? :-X

    Now, jokes aside. I think Randy hit the nail on the head. Make an attempt (as difficult as it may be) to involve her in the solution. But dont lose the opportunity to make it known that what youre doing is legal & appropriate. Something like:

    "Hi Mad Maureen, Ive stopped by to see if we can find a solution to the BBQ aromas youve mentioned. Now as you know, BBQing is perfectly legal in this fine state but in the spirit of neighbourly behaviour, lets see if we can find a way to reduce that delicious fragrance that seems to be entering your apartment. Is there a particular time of the day/week youre not home? Have you noticed its not a problem with a certain prevailing wind? etc etc....."

    * ok, so this bit may not go down well *sigh*


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    All the best with resolving your problems Bjeck. One solution might be to move to the country ;D Im on an acre which gives me a lot of leeway, although perhaps not the most practical or cost effective solution for you. One of my neighbours came over to watch the theatre that is Corretto roasting(he may have been on the scrounge!) Worth a try communicating with catwoman, but I dont like your chances. Fishinglizard may have the best solution. Hopefully youll be able to continue roasting.

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    Man that was such a crack up! daaaaaamn though, what a crap situation. Personally I dont think changing your equipment will do much, if you really want to minimise the smoke, maybe do lighter roasts and grab beans that are suited more to lighter roasts...

    This is basically what Ive had to do, because I roast inside the house. Yeah it stinks but the smell doesnt really hang around long.

    Oh, you could always narrow down some beans that dont smell/smoke as much, some varieties and processing methods will produce more smoke or smell than others.

    anyway, good luck, sounds like you need it! HAH ;D



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