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    Behmor 1600 profiles

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    Hello everyone,
    I just bought a starter pack from Andy, and would like someone to give me advice as to which profile of my Behmor 1600 I should start with.
    To tell you the truth I have done some experiments with green beans that came with the Behmor and have roasted close to a total of more than 4kgs of Peru, Decafe Wow and Nicaraguas the oldest about a year old.
    I stuck to 226 grams of beans with 1/2 P2 C profile. I did a 300 grams roast with the same profile and they were very light brown.
    Over more than 14 times of roasting most of the time I do not get to 1st crack and if it does it happens right at the tail end. I believe I have never have reached 2nd crack except in one occasion when I added time and then burnt the beans to near charcoal.
    Currently the starter pack contains four kinds of green beans, from India,Vietnam,Peru and Ethiopia.
    As the four bags contain 500grams each I would to split them into 250grams for each roast.
    Please give me a Profile to Start with each beans.
    I have browsed this forum and dont seem to find my answer. I browsed U.S. sites but was given advise not to take much notice of them as the U.S. Behmor is a different animal. Are there places in Melbourne that will give Barista courses where they will teach you with your own equipment. I have Silvia, Rocky and Behmor.
    Your comments are appreciated
    Would appreciate comments.


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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    i do believe quite a few people have been getting pretty good results from using the 1lb setting to roast 1/2 lb (approx. 226g) up to about 350g of greens.

    the general consensus that i have noted from most behmor users on the site stick to that with some prefering p3 and some p4 depending on bean type.

    not getting to first crack would indicate an inadequate amount of roast time i suppose

    using the 1lb setting would solve this
    of course you dont have to leave it to cycle all the way through the program and should pull it out as soon as the desired roast level is achieved.

    it is difficult to just give you a profile for each bean as well, to each their own really

    im sure someone will come along that will be able to provide a higher level of insight

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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    I got my behmor last week and have had mixed experiences. The bed roasts by far were achieved by totally ignoring the press weight. Instead use 1 lb setting for less beans ( I use 400 grams but anything less would do) and watch the machine do its work. Just before second crack or really on the very first pop of second crack I press cool, fully open the door and aim the pedestal fan on it. Only do this outside, chaff goes everywhere when you open the door. With the cooling cycle of the machine Ive always burnt the beans.


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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    Plenty of discussion on roasting profiles for the Behmor in the following threads:

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1300240063

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1260469418

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1262756782


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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    defenitely use the 1lb roast setting, I used the 1/2lb setting once on my first roast and didnt touch it again

    I find that with the longer setting you can stop the roast early if you want, but you can only add time up to a certain amount if you dont have enough roast time in the default program

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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    Over the past couple of days I did a few roasts by the book i.e. go through the examples in the manual and follow exactly what they say. I use 453 grams for 1LB and 226 grams for 1/2 LB. The 1LB came out perfect, the 1/2 LB roasts I opened the door when cooling began.
    I am also experimenting with pointing a fan at the roaster with the door shut just so it gets more air on the balmy Melbourne nights. If 2nd crack starts, immediately start cooling, open door and point fan in.
    if first crack starts to roll and there are 10 seconds to go I just leave the roaster to do the cooling.

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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    Quote Originally Posted by 424B4341412E0 link=1323849250/1#1 date=1323850958
    the general consensus that i have noted from most behmor users on the site stick to that with some prefering p3 and some p4 depending on bean type.
    I think youll find a lot of us use P2. I find I can get the longest stretch from first crack to second crack using P2. Although to get optimum results in the cup I find I need to do fairly small batches on P2. If Im keen on a bigger batch in the Behmor I use P3.

    Id also highly recommend looking at setting up an external cooler, so you can stop the beans exactly when you want to, whereas the Behmor cool cycle will keep on roasting for quite some time before the beans actually begin cooling and make it hard to predict when to stop.

    And read those threads Javaphile has pointed you to.

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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    I roast 12 ounces (315 grams) on the 1 pound setting, and I almost always use P3. I am located in the USA, and we only have 110 volts instead of your 220 - which is better for coffee roasting. My voltage starts at 121, but drops to 115 by the end of the roast.

    10 seconds after first crack gets started, I open the door for 30 seconds to slow down the roast. Then I close the door and roast for 72 seconds longer, then I press COOL. Some beans need 10 to 20 more seconds - based on tasting the coffee after 3 days rest.

    After 45 seconds of the cooling cycle, I power OFF the Behmor. I quickly remove the drum, and dump the beans into an external bean cooler. Then I press COOL again to let the Behmor cool down.
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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    sorry my 1st post was meant to say P2 and P3

    I had a laugh


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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    This is an interesting comment:

    Quote Originally Posted by 697C697468611B0 link=1323849250/7#7 date=1324435824
    we only have 110 volts instead of your 220 - which is better for coffee roasting
    Perhaps you could shed some light in what way 110V or 220V is preferable?

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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    Quote Originally Posted by 322A2B2E31212A2E420 link=1323849250/9#9 date=1324506206
    This is an interesting comment:

    Quote Originally Posted by 697C697468611B0 link=1323849250/7#7 date=1324435824
    we only have 110 volts instead of your 220 - which is better for coffee roasting
    Perhaps you could shed some light in what way 110V or 220V is preferable?
    I thought that the 220V in Australia is preferable to the 110V in the USA. The main problem is the poor quality of power delivered to homes in the USA.

    Many of us in the USA can NOT roast a full pound of beans into second crack. The reason is that the voltage / power drops off near the end of the roast.

    When I roast, I see 121 volts at the start of the roast, but only 116 at the end of the roast. I had to reduce my roast size from 13 ounces to 11 ounces (315 grams) over the last year. I have to roast less than 315 grams to get some beans up to second crack.

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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    Quote Originally Posted by 465E5F5A45555E5A360 link=1323849250/9#9 date=1324506206

    Perhaps you could shed some light in what way 110V or 220V is preferable?
    More power 8-)

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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    not power poowwaahhhh! :P

    @rgrosz - ive got a similar issue in that I would struggle to get a 350g roast to SC with the aussie behmor, so youre not alone

    I actually run a 280gm roast so i can comfortably get to second and then just cool the roast early if needed, that and it roasts down to close to 250g for me

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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    Quote Originally Posted by 233B213C20272A313C3A530 link=1323849250/12#12 date=1325494557
    I actually run a 280gm roast so i can comfortably get to second and then just cool the roast early if needed
    phrostyboi how do you cool the roast early when needed? Do you do it externally or just hit the cool button?

    I just got the Behmor from Andy today so am trying to get my head around it before I do my first roast.

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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    Just now roasted the tenth successive successful roast in the Behmor. What a great little machine!

    Heres the stats:

    500 grams green beans Mexico Yeni Navan Typica
    1LB, P2, C
    First Crack with 4:30 to go
    Rolling First Crack with 4:00 to go
    Second Crack start with 1:15 to go
    Cooling Cycle started with 1:00 to go
    Pulled beans out of the roaster 1 minute after starting the cool (they were still happily snapping away at 2nd crack)
    Dumped the beans in the bean cooler where they took about 1:30 minutes to reach room temperature.

    Ambient temperature was 19 degrees
    Ambient Humidity was 46%

    The roast resulted in 425 grams of brown beans.
    My estimate is CS9 in daylight or CS10 under artificial lighting.

    Anyway, they look fantastic!

    As I had a minute to go Im game to try a 550 gram batch next time round!

    No idea why some people complain their Behmors cant reach second crack. Mine can CHARCOAL 1LB of beans with ease!

    Go the Behmor!

    Phil

    BTW, the CoffeeSnobs card weighs 5 grams and the CS bags with the metal clips weigh 43 grams. Just in case you needed to know ;D










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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    Hello all,

    I have also bought a behmor from Andy this year. Previous to the behmor I was roasting in a popcorn roaster for 5 months. With both the behmor and popcorn roaster I have found that the outside air temp and conditions can dramatically affect roasting.

    My first roast in the behmor was on a cold windy day and with 1lb, p2, c selected I did not reach second crack even with the max extra time added. The next attempt on a hot day I reached second crack with time to spare.

    One of the forums I read suggested using the 1LB, P2, C profiles and then just adjusting the size of the batch you are roasting until you are happy with the settings. When I reach 2nd crack press cool, open the door (and leave it open) and remove the chaff tray. With a closed door the cooling cycle continues cooking the beans for nearly a minute.

    So far I have been very happy with the machine, nicely made, very quiet and no problems hearing 1st and 2nd crack.

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    Re: Behmor 1600 profiles

    Behmor Coffee Roaster
    Quote Originally Posted by 3C253B353D3537500 link=1323849250/13#13 date=1325854099
    Quote Originally Posted by 233B213C20272A313C3A530 link=1323849250/12#12 date=1325494557
    I actually run a 280gm roast so i can comfortably get to second and then just cool the roast early if needed
    phrostyboi how do you cool the roast early when needed? Do you do it externally or just hit the cool button?

    I just got the Behmor from Andy today so am trying to get my head around it before I do my first roast.

    I just hit the cool button when im happy with the roast, I dont cool my beans externally

    When I cool I open the door all the way to try and get the temp to drop a bit quicker



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