Looks like a good find! Might even pick up one myself :) The lower power seems beneficialů
Found this on special at target $16. Seems to have much better design than the homemaker one with alot more ventilation holes. This one is 900w compared with the 1200w homemaker. Seems to run less hot than the homemaker. Im getting first crack just under 5mins straight out of the box and second crack at 8 mins.
Having got both I think this one seems to perform better. I dont think I will need to drill this one. Anyone using this roaster as well?
Looks like a good find! Might even pick up one myself :) The lower power seems beneficialů
Thats great thanks for the notice, i just brought two of the homemaker ones yesterday and they seem to roast the beans too quickly no matter how cool the outside temp is or how many holes i drill in the side of the popper.
Does it sound right that im struggling to reach an overall time of 4 mins and there not being anytime between first and second crack?
Anyway, straight down to target tonight!!!
Yes, it does sound right. I was using a Breville Crazy Popper for a time (1250W, I believe the homemaker one uses the same power) and I was getting the results you describe.Originally Posted by 4E424B4B48484E455F445E2D0 link=1323939282/2#2 date=1323979399
In the end I had removed all the plastic around the roasting chamber except the base plate, aimed a fan directly at the roasting chamber for the whole roast and was getting somewhere in the vicinity of 8 mins for second crack.
A lower power can only mean good things for roast times. Sounds like a good deal.* :)
Originally Posted by 717D74747777717A607B61120 link=1323939282/2#2 date=1323979399I did the same but could get SC around 12 to 15 minutes.Originally Posted by 7366707B737E7779120 link=1323939282/3#3 date=1323992158
Try a batch size of about 120g, angle and jiggle the popper until 1st crack. This will keep the beans tumbling and slow things down. Sit it on an angle until 2nd crack if needed.
Youll definitely need a chimney to do this.
I got one of these as a birthday present so I can roast my own; waiting for my starter pack to arrive to try it out!
I have put a few roasted beans in just to play around, and I think the unit shows promise!
Definitely more airholes underneath than any of the other units (off the shelf) Ive seen in pics here.
Would be keen to hear the results of your roasts.
Just bought one of the Target poppers a couple of days ago to try roasting for the first time. It seems to work really well (although the beans I roasted yesterday still need a bit more resting time).
So far Ive done 600g in 6 x 100g batches. As I said, its my first time roasting so everything I know has been gleaned from CS. But with a bit of angling and shaking Im getting first crack at around 7min and then after about 10min I just leave it alone as the beans are circulating nicely by then and at about 19-21min Ive been turning if off and cooling.
The case doesnt seem to get too hot and with 100g roasts I dont think it even needs a chimney. I leave the yellow top on but not the lid (although between 11-16min in I sometimes left it on).
Between roasts I have always left it to cool for 10min and I havent done more than two roasts in a row (e.g. I did two this morning and then two just now).
So Im hoping it lasts OK because it seems to produce a good result (for a $16 popper).
Ive done three roasts on mine now. One with Ethiopian Ghimbi and two with Peru Ceja de Selva. I agree with the comments about the chimney. Doesnt seem needed.
The first two batched were 60g, both lids off, and I didnt really get much of a crack from the Ethiopian, took it off after 12.5 mins or so, looking a bit under roasted (quite an uneven bean size distribution with this one). Getting very little "roasted coffee" smell, and no smoke (smells a lot like the green beans). Had some today (day 3) and its drinkable, but not a very developed flavour.
Second batch was some of the Peru, which I hand sorted for even sized beans. 60g again, the lid on this time for most of it, and finished up around 12.5 with first crack about 7min.
Roasted some more of the Peru last night, 80g, with first crack at 5.5mins and second about 12. Looks like a better roast this time, and it was smoking when I took it off (first batch that has).
I suspect that the extra 20g of coffee has slowed the airflow through the popper/beans and thus has increased the temperature of the air getting to the beans, thus the faster roast.
Ill do some video next time.
i too brought one on the weekend and have now done several roast with different beans. I agree with the two past posts that you dont need a chimney and i also leave the see through yellow part on during the roast.
I dont know if you guys read somewhere about this, but i read it seems the more beans you put it the quicker the roast will go. I brought a 2.5kg of the india la honey. roasted it monday night tried it today. Very nice...
Waiting a few days, has made me wonder why we have to leave them for 24-48 hours? what are the real reasons?
Has anyone found that 100g is too much with this roaster? First crack at around 5mins finishing at 9mins-10mins getting about 5% underroasted beans some quite green with the rest perfect.
Maybe Im just use to the hot homemaker with everything burnt to a crisp by that stage. Will try with 80g batches next time.
i tried a 100g of beans and yes it was too much. i dont go over 75g, i have found this amount to be pretty effective. My roasts except for one that went to 12 mins have only gone to 1 little under 10 mins. The ones that were under 10 mins have turned out pretty good by my standards.
What beans were you and are you roasting newbiemocca?
Ill have to see how it goes with 75g. With 100g I jiggle the machine almost constantly for the first 4min so that the beans are circulating. If you want the air flow alone to rotate the beans then 100g is probably too much. Also, by jiggling it a lot it seems to slow the time to first crack.
Ive been using Columbian beans and also an extension cord to roast outside. I forgot to mention before Im getting second crack at around 18-21min. Ive been stopping just as second crack begins. Anyone else taking this long in this popper?
It seems mine has plenty of power to get to first crack but then just enough for a slow build to second.
i have done various types of beans, some crack at nine mins. The ones that went over didnt crack at al; and i beacame scared and took them out. I tasted those ones last night and they turned out ok. From what people say on here about colour it appeared to be about a c9-10??
How have your Columbians ones gone? have you been able to taste them yet?
Ps not that it is safe but if you add a few extention cords together, it should bring down the wattage a little, if thats what you were inplying.. :)
Just like grinder settings, no two poppers are identical.Originally Posted by 787963797D7F7E100 link=1323939282/12#12 date=1324580147
They may be pretty similar but because they are built cheap you will get variations; occasionally big variations.
I think this has been proven to be a myth unless you are in an extremely remote area where the power supply is not up to the same standard as any capital city.Originally Posted by 737F767675757378627963100 link=1323939282/13#13 date=1324592840
(I have a 30m extension that makes no difference to my popper)
My first batch of Columbians taste ok. Given its the very first time Ive roasted and they were only rested for two days I was pretty pleased with the result. Not the best beans Ive tasted but very drinkable. Ill give the batch I did yesterday another couple of days and then post-Christmas Ill roast some more.
Id read about the extension cord thing in one of the posts on CS which is why I mentioned it. Wasnt sure if it was relevant.
Sorry to take over a thread but it seams that my experience might fit in here and save the creation of another.
I have just started roasting (yesterday) and think that my popper might have already packed it in and I will go down and get myself the target one described here.
Yesterday I did my first roast with my Tiffany Mega Popper. I roasted half a cup (about 90gr) of India Elephant Hills.
I got first crack at 2:46 and second crack at 6:25. The roast was a little lighter than I was expecting but appeared to be a full city roast. I tried it this morning and it was quite nice (a lot better than the rubbish I usually use from the supermarket).
I roasted another batch this morning hoping to go a little darker. I only managed to get a couple of first crack sounds at 6:20 and no second crack, turning it of at 11:23. The roast was lighter than yesterdays and quite uneven.
Im guessing that one of the elements has packed it in or something. Can someone confirm if my thoughts sound correct and I should be on my way down to Target to get another popper?
Most poppers have a thermostat set to the temperature to do popcorn not coffee.
So it is possible that yours in cutting out due to being too hot and just in need of some surgery to adjust the thermostat.
Attached is a pic of a typical popper heater with the thermostat and thermal fuse I pinched from one of the numerous popper mod sites.
Thanks for the heads up... picked up one of these poppers yesterday and tried it out; much longer toast time hopefully means tastier beans :)
Based on this thread, I decided I would buy one of the Target poppers and see how the roast went with the reduced wattage.
Compared to the Breville Crazy Popper this machine is just about useless. I placed 100 grams of beans (Kenya Masai Estate) into the popper and switched it on. The beans hardly moved and I could tell after a couple of minutes that some beans that have obviously been sitting next the outlet vents where showing signs of colour and there was an extremely uneven roast happening.
As the Kenyan beans are not cheap, I chucked them into the Crazy popper and finished off the roast.
My 2 year old Grandson will enjoy this Target popper for popcorn as I wont be using it again for coffee beans......
This Target popper was $13.40 so Im not too distressed.
I may add that the Crazy popper handles 110 grams with ease.
Ive roasted a number of batches now, and stick to 60-80g. Absolutely no problems with the beans moving with this mass. The only uneven roast Ive had was with beans that had very uneven size and a lot of dud looking beans.
So 100g is probably too much, but no problems with smaller mass.
One way to get a bit more airflow is to open the gills in the bottom of the roast chamber a bit.
On the Aldi popper I could only do this after disassembling the heater, so not very convenient. On the Black & Decker though, the cup comes out when you take the case apart.
Done a few more roasts. Definitely no more than 80g. Getting first crack 7mins rolling at 8-9mins, start of second crack at 16-17mins. Have done a few brilliant batches. Definitely better developed flavour than the hot homemaker popper. Im using a can chimney and a 20m extension cord. This popper is a ripper!!
My advice dont be afraid to run the roast for longer. Dont be greedy and put so much in the popper.
Thanks for the heads up... off to target to have a look now.
Well went down to Target....nothing, Target online.....nothing,Kmart.....nothing, BigW......nothing.
Damm WA. Will have to try ebay.
Hey corrupt, not sure where in WA you are exactly but the target in the city had them about a week ago when I was there.
Thanks TMonkey, rang another target and they have 5 in stock so off there tomorrow.
Have done a few more roasts recently. I did an Elephant Hills to about 18 mins, and looking at them a few days later they look over-roasted (oily sheen on the beans). An an espresso, its almost like drinking charcoal, but with milk its full of chocolate. Surprisingly smooth with milk actually.
Blended with some Peru Seja de Selva and Ethiopian Ghimbi this morning, and made a great long mac.
Roasted two Peru batches (75g) to 16-17 mins last night. I preheated the popper for the first batch, but not for the second. The result was about a minute less to 1st crack, and roughly the same to second. Looks nice, and has a much better aroma port roast than my previous attempts.
Looking forward to trying those over the next few days.
One thing I noticed is that 3-4 days in, the grind is very dry with no clumping, and a nice (if slightly gassy) pour from the naked filter. This morning, the blend poured very fast, with quite a lot of channelling, in two separate pours (the second updosing slightly and with a firmer tamp, which actually made things worse!).
I just got one of these poppers - cant wait to do my first roast in it (first roast ever!!!!)
Problem is - my stater pack still hasnt arrived! Anyone know anywhere retail I can buy some good single origin green beans in Brisbane on a Friday morning? Is DiBella still selling them? Any recommendations on what would be good to start with? Im desperate to start!
Heres my take on this popper, and having it tilted definitely helps with movement. Moving it around using a wooden spoon till first crack also ensures sufficient movement. I also found that putting the WHITE lid on after first crack will fasten the roasting process. Ive only done 3 batches so far, and below is the result:
Peru Ceja de Selva Estate (80g) - no white lid after first crack
Peru Ceja de Selva Estate (90g) - no white lid after first crack
Peru Ceja de Selva Estate (100g) - this time with lid on after first crack
Didnt record ambient temperature unfortunately. But with the three batches, constants are tilted popper, stirring, extension cord etc.
Lux_interior doesnt have an order for one... so it will never arrive. We send everything the same day we see payment for it.Originally Posted by 0A333E192F283223342F2934460 link=1323939282/28#28 date=1326984036
Drop me an email (not a PM) and Ill sort it out.
Keep in mind that all poppers will roast differently, some are faster than others even you you buy 2 at the same time.* The most important thing is that you know whats "normal" for your popper.Originally Posted by 242C2934283C3C3C460 link=1323939282/29#29 date=1326984999
Thats looking like a pretty good result... the first couple might have been a little long after 1st crack but will still be drinkable.* You are certainly on the right track, make a small change each roast and record the results... in no time you will have a baseline that you can use for new beans.Originally Posted by 242C2934283C3C3C460 link=1323939282/29#29 date=1326984999
Enjoy the journey!
Ive started roasting the beans from my starter pack on Friday 20 in a breville popcorn maker.
I am as green at this as the beans!
I saw a video where the guy agitated the p/maker :D holding it at an angle for the whole time, so thats what Im doing.
Every so often I give it a quick stir with a bamboo spatula.
I do it outside with a towel under the popper which catches most of the chaff.
Im still developing the "ear" for the pops. On average, the roasting time has been around 6 - 6.30, except for the first which was longer due i think to being in a different location (more open) and it being quite breezy.
I think I will start using a fan aimed at it to try and slow down the process.
For cooling, what I do is keep two flat bottomed ceramic bowls in the fridge and after swishing between colander and sieve a few times I bring it in and pour the beans into the cold bowls and keep pouring between the two.
Every so often I halve the amounts and swish the bowls around. I hope that makes sense!
Now Ive got to get the whole grinding/dosing/tamping/extraction thing worked out.
Ive just bought the dual boiler and smart grinder. Already poured quite a few down the sink, mainly using beans I already had. All of these have now gone into the green waste bin.
Wish me luck, all you old hands! :D
Has anyone tried using an air compessor to blow air into some of these hotter poppers to keep the temp down and the bean flow up?
I realise they dont go down too well in the kitchen.
To be honest, I havent found it to be too much of a problem.
I tried my new method last week, and whilst the beans were perhaps slightly under roasted, I think it gives me a better (more consistent) starting point.
Basically Im roasting to 1st crack, taking the lid off, and then continuing to roast for as long as it took to reach 1st crack.
Next time I wont take the lid off, and well see how it goes.
Looking at what has been said about the lower 900 watt popper I decided it was the way to go - rang Ballina Target who had it in stock and ducked over today to collect it and some prawns and snapper. It was 19 dollars there. First 80g roast in it was some defect peabury off the gravity table that could still be sized and sorted for average bean. I used an old fashion cheese grater for this and got what look like PB14s. First Crack was 8 min and second was just coming in about 14. I took the lid off for a while on the first crack (i turned it off for a couple of seconds at this stage and noticed a little smoke so quickly started again).
It says not to run this machine continuously for more than five minutes and Im a little scared Im going to burn this thing out. Good results and Im thinking I should have picked up a couplse more.
Thanks for the tip.
Ive had it running for over 20, and with no adverse effects. Im not that concerned about it really. If it dies, Ill buy a new one!
Ive not had many get as far as 8mins before 1st crack, but ambient temperature seems to make a big difference.
Yeh, I think its more a case of high humidity here.. The roasts are coming more even then I was expecting: the peabury move better I suppose and allow more air among themselves.
Bought a Target $16 popper in Hobart, also just ordered 2.5kg of Brazil Pulped Natural. Just waiting for it to arrive in the mail.
Any recommendations on batch sizes and what time should i be expecting 1st and 2nd crack since the popper is quite load and dont know if Id be able to hear em.
Hi and welcome to Coffeesnobs mompt,Originally Posted by 5E5C5E4347330 link=1323939282/37#37 date=1328786240
Most people use 80 to 100 gms.* Sometimes it depends on bean size as well as technique. Not too much as you need the beans to move inside the popper. Youll need to stir them with a wooden spoon (try the handle end - although I used a chop stick) until they start moving of their own accord. Dont worry about the noise. You should hear first crack easily and probably second too but you may chicken out early first time.
There are lots* of posts and threads on roasts and home roasting boards. Start with this one:
You can also search this forum and website with the search link above (top right) . Theres a thread on that too!
Consider wearing gardening gloves and think about where your smoke detectors are placed.
And have fun.
Have you tried without angling / agitating? I use an out of the box stock standard Breville Crazy Popper, 120g of green beans and do not agitate the popper at all. Just make sure you switch the popper on 10 seconds or so before you pour the beans in and then when you pour the beans in do it gradually (another 10 seconds) so they start churning right away.Originally Posted by 6D4049404B7214250 link=1323939282/31#31 date=1327148655
I use a beer can with the top and bottom removed (and the beer removed as well...) a chimney.
For small batches the popper is great. Better results are achieved in the behmor, although here I roast 500gm batches.
just did my 1st 2 roasts tonight using the same method as bjorncyz. Open top and stirring with a wooden spoon till 1st crack then top on and letting the air mix the beans till 2nd.
100g brazilian pulped
1st crack at 5.25
2nd crack at 13.05
took me about 2 minutes till i can cool them down to touch warm.
100g brazilian pulped
1st crack at 4.10 much much earlier dont know why
2nd crack at 12.20
same cooling time
both batches looked identical at CS9/10 with a 5-6 bad beans which i hand picked out.
dont know how to store them so i put them in a glass container with the lid slightly ajar to let them breathe.
Will let you know how they taste in 2-3 days.
So yeh, just to report on my 1st 2 roasts. I ended up just dumping them in the same seal-able container. The result 3 days later was surprisingly amazing. Although I have nothing to compare it to in terms of home roasting, Id say that its far better than any supermarket beans Ive tried. So overall Im pleased.
Since then, Ive done quite a few more roasts. Have a bit of a system happening and the last few times I got consistent 1st crack at 4-4.30 and 2nd at 10-11. Ive been doing batches of 3x100g and all consistent 1st and 2nd crack. Again Ive been mixing them together after roast and sealing them off once they are at room temperature. Please let me know if there is any fault in doing so.
Finally, one tip to those roasting on poppers, i find it very useful to run the popper for a decent 1-2 minutes to make sure its not doing a cold start. This ensures that the 1st roasts behaves similarly to 2nd and 3rd roasts which are roasting on an already warmed up popper.
feel free to correct me on anything that would improve the roast.
I purchased a Black and Decker BP100 and just received my starter pack. Tried about 60g and angled the popper.
Stated off with the Peru..
1st crack was at 3 mins and 2nd at 6 but let it go until 7 mins for the dark roast. Turned it off and smoke came up. Good tip about the smoke detectors.
Used a small fan to cool down to warm and rested them.
Made a brew..latte about 6 hours later cause I cant wait 3 days.
The B&D is a 1200w and wondering whether an 800w would be better?
Im thrilled with the result sofar and my 2nd roast was trying the Brazil. Will have to wait to try them out but the color is even and similar to the first batch.
Sofar so good.
Never thought Id get into the roasting - Im hooked and its only bean my 2nd roast.
Just bought the the target $16 ($19 - 15% = $16.15) popper. Cant wait to try some roasting. ;D
As a n00b roaster I have tried 2 types of green beans in the starter pack, Peru and Brazil which were very nice.
Id really like to try all the varieties to determine which one or two I like the best, but in order to do this , it appears that I would have to order 2.5 kg of each bean type, which is discouraging.
2.5kg is a lot of cups of coffee to get through if a) I find that I dont particularly like it, or most likely .. B) I liked a previously tried bean better .. yet having to drink the less preferred variety to not waste it.
Being able to try the different beans is a reasonable call imho, and Id be surprised if Im the only person to mention that purchasing 2.5 kilos of one bean without having previously tried it.. a bit too risky..
Has the idea of CS helping out n00bs by putting together a Sample Pack say 100 - 250g of each variety to sample them been suggested before?
What do you think of this idea?
From my experience and looking at your first roasting post above, I think youll find 2.5 kg is not a lot. It takes quite a few roasts to get the best out of a bean - there are a lot of variables you can play with. Then you get to the whole blending bit. And green coffee has a pretty good shelf-life if you store it properly. Have fun!
Yeah .. your probably right Pete, as Ive noticed my coffee consumption has doubled in the last 2 days roasting my own.
Man .. just tried the Ethiopian Ghimbi .. that certainly hit the sweet spot.
Must be a harder bean? Peru and Brazils 1st crack was 3 mins and 6, orated for 7 mins, whereas Ethiopian was 4.15 and 7.15 roasted to 10 mins.
After that slid down (latte) I had to go make another to prove I wasnt dreaming. ;D
Im waiting for the heart palpitations from caffeine overdose :D
Picked up one of these Target poppers today and I will order the starter pack sometime over the weekend.
Its such a shame I just ordered 1KG of roasted Coffeesnobs Gold. Im just going to have to drink it all so I can enjoy some of my own roasted beans.
So excited to get into roasting :D
Ok so tried the popper for the first time and first time roaster too. I just cant seem to get the colour to go past cs7. Well, first time I did it out in the open with the lid off and with the wind blowing in my ear so firstly couldnt hear first crack...let it go all the way into 28 minutes and decided thats not going anywhere. Next batch I did it under the pergola with the lid on. First crack was distinct and that was a good feeling. 5.40 mins into it was first crack (incidentally does 1st crack last 2 mins?)...either couldnt hear 2nd crack or just couldnt get there...stopped it at 19.30 mins.
60grms beans both times.
Both colours are cs6 to cs7. I would like a cs9. any thoughts? seems like others can get cs9 quite qiuckly.