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    Ethiopian Yirgacheffe

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    Out of interest, how is everyone roasting their Ethiopian Yirgacheffe? I have roasted it from just after 1st crack to just after 2nd crack, and I only find it palatable added in small quantities to other blends.

    I find it quite sickly as a single origin, yet everywhere, I read rave reviews...

    Cheers.....

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    Re: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe

    Hi stratford,

    Have found that my preference is just before the onset of 2nd Crack, between 10 and 20 seconds before. I use a slightly modified popper with speed control over the fan and glass chimney.

    I really enjoy the Yirgacheffe and love the exotic characteristics it adds to blends. As a SO, it is very intense with a very prominent top end and that ever mentioned, "winey" flavour. After initial cupping, I havent really persisted drinking it as an SO instead, prefering to blend it, especially with my Colombian Pennsilvania, PNG Sigri and Indian Tiger Mountain. It just adds an extra dimension to the flavour profile of these beans that is absolutely fantastic.

    Maybe someone else can comment on what they have discovered in roasting this bean as a SO espresso, since I am more into blending my espressos.

    Cheers,
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    Re: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe

    Hi stratford,

    I am a huge fan of the Yirgacheffe, and will agree with Mal on the roast recommendation. I also prefer the same roast level for this coffee.

    On the matter of your taste for it, that is entirely subjective. It sounds to me that you have given this coffee every oppy to prove itself to you, but it doesnt really appeal to you.

    It can be difficult to be honest about ones indifference or dislike for a coffee as celebrated as the Yirgacheffe. I salute your honesty!

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    Re: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe

    I have some Ethiopian Yirgacheffe Grade 1 beans here that I have done multiple roasts with.

    With my set-up (Z&D roaster) 1st crack happens at 9 minutes with 2nd crack occuring at 16 minutes.

    My personal preference for drinking as an SO is pulling the roast 30 seconds before the first snaps of the 2nd crack. At this point the full flavor of the beans is present with-out being muted by any roast flavor.

    Beans taken to the start of 2nd crack and 30 seconds into it (just into the roll) yielded noticably more crema but the beans innate flavors were muted by roast flavors.

    Sour notes were present in beans pulled more than 60 seconds before the first of 2nd cracks were heard.

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    Re: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe

    Hi all,

    Thanks for the comments....I guess my palate leans toward the more classic `coffee flavours, and not the `winey fragrant flavours of EY.....I can certainly taste them, I just dont appreciate them! Maybe I will experiment more with it.

    But it does add a nice edge to my blends.....

    Cheers......

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    Re: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe

    Quote Originally Posted by stratford link=1118625651/0#4 date=1118643763
    Hi all,

    Thanks for the comments....I guess my palate leans toward the more classic `coffee flavours, and not the `winey fragrant flavours of EY.....I can certainly taste them, I just dont appreciate them! Maybe I will experiment more with it.

    But it does add a nice edge to my blends.....

    Cheers......
    Hi again stratford,

    Sounds like you may have solved the problem for yourself.... just stick with the blends for EY (Yirgy). I spose you could try roasting further into 2nd crack (30-40 seconds in) in an effort to try and mute the higher notes of the beans flavours but in the end it is destroying characters that the bean is famous for. So, I suppose it will come down to whether you think the bean has enough going for it to keep it just for blending?

    Definitely a tough one....

    Cheers,
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    Re: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe

    Thanks Mal,

    I am still playing with it ;)

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    Re: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe

    Hey Mal, how do you mod the speed of the fan on the popper? Is there places to check this sort of mod out?

    Ive got a new popper, and the fan is intense! It really seems to be blowing the beans about like crazy!

    Cheers,
    Andy

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    Re: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyCJ link=1118625651/0#7 date=1118961994
    Hey Mal, how do you mod the speed of the fan on the popper? Is there places to check this sort of mod out?

    Ive got a new popper, and the fan is intense! It really seems to be blowing the beans about like crazy!

    Cheers,
    Andy
    Sounds like the perfect candidate for a chimney mod. :D

    Heres a link for the fan mod: http://www.homeroaster.com/geekmod.html

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    Re: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyCJ link=1118625651/0#7 date=1118961994
    Hey Mal, how do you mod the speed of the fan on the popper? Is there places to check this sort of mod out?

    Ive got a new popper, and the fan is intense! It really seems to be blowing the beans about like crazy!

    Cheers,
    Andy
    Hi Andy,

    That link that Java provided is the one I got my ideas from in the first place, so can highly recommend the information it contains.

    By the way, if your popper fan is pushing out that amount of air, I dont think you will need to do very much. As Java says, you probably only need to fit a chimney, the el-cheapo soup tin trick in the first instance, and if youre happy with that then you can buy a glass lantern chimney of suitable size from a camping goods store. You have to make sure though, that the hole size at the top is at least the same size as at the bottom of the chimney (bigger is ok) otherwise you risk choking the popper and raising the temperature way too high.

    Most popper fan mods are designed to increase the speed of the fan so that a larger load of beans can be roasted so by using a chimney on yours, you should be able to increase your roast size quite significantly. When youre doing this, its a good idea to have thermocouple and DMM (Digital Multimeter) handy so that you can monitor the temperature in the roasting chamber while youre roasting, to ensure that you are achieving a stable, workable temperature profile for the duration of a roast.

    You can also do this just by taking special note of the time taken to 1st Crack and then 2nd Crack. The aim is to hit 1st Crack at about 6-8 minutes and 2nd about 10-12 minutes in. This will ensure that you can maintain good control over individual roasts. In Summer though, these times will inevitably shorten up somewhat and this is where the controllable fan speed mod comes in handy if you want to maintain the same roast batch sizes. Without the speed control, you will need to adjust your batch sizes down until you can achieve the roast times above. All of this is well and truly covered in the linked article on HomeRoaster though. Have fun, and

    Cheerio,
    Mal.

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    Re: Ethiopian Yirgacheffe

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    Quote Originally Posted by stratford link=1118625651/0#0 date=1118625651
    Out of interest, how is everyone roasting their Ethiopian Yirgacheffe? *I have roasted it from just after 1st crack to just after 2nd crack, and I only find it palatable added in small quantities to other blends.<br><br>I find it quite sickly as a single origin, yet everywhere, I read rave reviews...<br><br>Cheers.....
    I have read all the posts and must agree with Stratfords opening statement.
    I usually roast two batches of 250 G each of two different coffees each week. I usually roast two that I would like to blend. When I first roast and if there is any left from the previous week (usually) I have the choice of blending 4 different coffees. If any of those four coffees happens to be Yirgicheffe, thatt the only one thats left and usually plenty of it. I just dont see it.
    Not a complaint, just an observation. I just Love all the other coffees I have purchased and if there where a few others which I did not care for, which there are not, I would still be very happy. Hell, I didnt even know coffee came in different flavours before.
    Cheers, YT 8-)



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