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    Roasting for Cold Process Coffee vs Espresso

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    Due to the recent demolishment of my kitchen Ive been relying on Cold Process Coffee for my daily fix instead of my usual espresso. As a result Ive had to significantly change my roasting profile.

    For espressos Ive found that the lighter roasts work dramatically better than the traditionally darker ones. Most beans I end up pulling well before the onset of 2nd crack.

    Doing the same roast for use as CP I found the resulting coffee to be rather flat and flavorless.

    After experimenting with a variety of roasts the conclusion was unmistakable. Coffee roasted for CP gave the best taste when roasted *well into the 2nd crack! Farther into it in fact than I *ever take a bean when roasting for espresso.

    The roast level thats worked best so far is taking the beans to just past the peak of the rolling 2nd crack. Continuing the roast until the rolling 2nd crack starts to subside with several seconds between cracks. Way, WAY too far for use as espresso for my taste.

    I have the feeling that this may also apply to roasting for brewed coffee, but to a slightly lighter roast. Anybody experimented with this?

    Java "Always adjusting" phile

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    Re: Roasting for Cold Process Coffee vs Espresso

    Javaphile, being forced to drink cold-processed coffee must be akin to drinking warm beer. But it does remind me of of a summer drink Ive had: refrigerated espresso. Yes, that little cup which has to be consumed right away when still hot, is drunk ice-cold hours later.

    And, as a variation, which I think should be patented, how about a dash of espresso in coca cola. The two flavours seem to have been made for each other.

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    Re: Roasting for Cold Process Coffee vs Espresso

    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1122540128/0#1 date=1122588652
    Javaphile, being forced to drink cold-processed coffee must be akin to drinking warm beer. But it does remind me of of a summer drink Ive had: refrigerated espresso. Yes, that little cup which has to be consumed right away when still hot, is drunk ice-cold hours later.
    Actually CP is my most preferred form of coffee after espresso. :) I find it a wonderful form of coffee with many advantages and it has been my normal summertime beverage of choice now for 25 years. ;D

    The essence of making CP is a pound of coffee is ground to about halfway between drip and perc coarseness. 5 cups of water is then gently poured over it and 15 minutes later an additional 4 cups of water is gently poured over it. After soaking at room temp for 10-12 hour it is then decanted through a filtere leaving a pure coffee concentrate that is then mixed at roughly a 1:6 ratio for normal strength coffee and is stored in the fridge. For those tight on funds a second soak can then be done by adding 5 cups of water to the grounds and soaking for 24 hours which will give you a weaker concentrate that is best used in milk (or some other heavily flavored type drink) based drinks.

    Because the brewing is done at room temp the resulting coffee is lower in acids and oils resulting in an extremely smooth flavor.

    CP is wonderful stuff not only for its smooth full-flavored taste but also for its ease of use and wide variety of uses. Its perfect for iced coffee. You can make a nice tall glass of your favorite beverage with no dilution to its full strength flavor because the coffee is already cold and its a concentrate. (The concentrate will store in the fridge for at least a week.) Because its a concentrate everybody can have their own preferred strength of drink.

    My favorite ingestion method is to pour it over ice with milk instead of water. Uuuummm nummy! It also works well for recipes that call for espresso as a flavoring agent and makes a wonderful coffee-milkshake!

    There are Cold Process Brewing Systems on the market which are basicly a plastic bucket with a spot for a plastic filter in the bottom and a hole under that with a rubber stopper in it and a glass decanter to hold the concentrate. These systems work nicely and will last virtually forever with the only additional investment being a new filter maybe once or twice a year at a price of a couple of bucks.

    Some consider CP to be wasteful of coffee as you dont get as many cups from it as you would if you drip brewed the coffee instead. While this is true a pound of coffee made via Cold Process will produce just as many drinks as it would if it were made into espresso, approximately 40: 30ml servings (before dilution in the case of the CP).

    I can highly recommend CP to all coffee lovers out there who are looking for a cold version of their favorite begerage. :) :) :) I still prefere my espresso for hot coffee though! ;D

    Java "Gotta love all the forms our favorite beverage takes!" phile

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    Re: Roasting for Cold Process Coffee vs Espresso

    Robusto

    I too drink cold espresso in the summer, its delicious! *Its the common problem of travelling with no reliable way of getting anything near the quality of espresso I have become accustomed to, so the next best thing was cold coffee.

    I would spend a good hour in front of the machine pulling shot after shot, sweetening as I go, then placing in a glass carafe type receptacle for later. *The cold coffee is very refreshing once cold and obviously has a shelf life much longer then the 2 mins of an espresso.

    It started as a cure when travelling but now I use it as a drink in summer. *My girlfriend doesn’t drink straight espresso, but loves cold coffee.

    Dan

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    Re: Roasting for Cold Process Coffee vs Espresso

    Dan, you might like to give CP a try. Its much easier to prepare than spending hours pulling shots and tastes great! :)

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    Re: Roasting for Cold Process Coffee vs Espresso

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    When travelling, I make four double espressos on my (now rarely used) stove top, sweeten them and pour them into a thermos flask just big/small enough for that quantity. Keeps hot for hours.



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