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    Secret Plantation

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Hello all for My First post :)
    I live in the Northern Rivers of NSW and in my back yard is a Rain forest full of Coffee plants.
    The area is Terranora (Near Tweed)
    The land behind me used to be an old Coffee plantation but is totally overgrown and rainforest now.
    Ive picked and dried a bucket full of beans and so far, Have roasted them on a pan over a gas flame on the side burner of the BBQ.
    Here is the clicker, The Coffee is insanely strong :-?, It is shade grown and one cup knocks my eyeballs out for hours :o
    So much so Ive been blending it with Vittoria beans from Big W.
    Now, I am totally novice to the world of coffee making, but I like a good brew.
    I am now contemplating the ability to supply my own coffee throughout the year.
    Having this supply of beans leads me to think about a small home roaster.
    Any Info on what and where I can buy the next step up from a frypan or Popcorn maker would be great.
    Also I am finding all this very interesting, but sheesh its hard work from picking berrys to roasted been ;D,,, Truly
    Thanks
    Mickymadrippen

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    Re: Secret Plantation

    Have you identified the type of bean Arabica or Robusta. If they are that strong they could be robustas which would explain the caffeine hit. :o

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    Hi and welcome Micky
    When you are on a good thing ???

    If you drive to Brisbane for work or business
    You can drop off about 10 baby coffee plants near south Brisbane and in return
    I will teach you several coffee roasting methods
    Also teach you how to make home roasters

    KK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee Kosmo link=1221990352/0#2 date=1221991041
    Hi and welcome Micky
    When you are on a good thing ???

    If you drive to Brisbane for work or business
    You can drop off about 10 baby coffee plants near south Brisbane and in return
    I will teach you several coffee roasting methods
    Also teach you how to make home roasters

    KK
    Only ten? I just cut down a couple of hundred babys to get to the Big Mumas and Pappas ;D
    But that sounds like a deal ok.
    Interesting About the Coffee type, It is bitter but with a full fruit flavour, Very tasty as far as I can tell and I did work in Sydney CBD two years ago and I rank the flavour as good as Ive ever had but with a hit that smacks me in the mouth more than any silly drug I ever took as a teenager way back when.
    Another thing I noticed, Some Old plants were 20 feet high and only some were loaded with berrys(or some more so than others) Below that the Forrest floor was covered in 3-4 foot babys, each with none or only a few berrys.
    Im thinking I will dig out the small plants and graft on the older plants that are performing well and plant these around the house.
    Someone mentioned they could be Byron Bay Blue as My find is defiantly Bird carried , The old plantation whereabouts is not exactly know to me yet.
    Still learning

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    Man... I am jealous. Jealous like a bandit.


    Anyway, the caffeine hit could be because the plants are robusta, although I dont think there would be much (or any?) robusta in Oz because its not the coffea species that we like to drink here (ergo, why bother?). But arabica (the tasty species that accounts for >90% of what we know as "coffee") will grow with a much higher percentage of caffeine at lower altitudes... is this the case for you? What is the altitude in Terranora? [BTW, caffeine is the plants natural insecticide. The plant knows to produce more at lower altitudes because insects are more of a problem there....]

    Cheers
    Stuart.

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    Re: Secret Plantation

    Take a cutting and some pictures to get a positive ID on the plants

    C.A.P.E. Nursery Australia
    179 Broken Head Road
    Newrybar NSW Australia 2479
    (Near Byron Bay)

    http://www.capeau.com.au/nursery.html

    However some closer nurseries may be about in Condong (Murwillumbah)

    KK

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    Its good volcanic red soil in Terranora but i never found that plantation when I was riding my Montessa around there (Ex Kingscliff)

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    Re: Secret Plantation

    Hey Mickymadrippen,
    ever heard of the Cup of Excellence program? haha, ok maybe it wont pass, but thats a great find, and Im insanely jealous.


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    Gday Mickey, welcome to CS and sharing your enviable existence living in a beaut part of Oz ... and to boot, with a mature coffee plantation as your backyard!

    Set-up a B&B, and youll probably have a ready guest list from this forum mate ;D

    As TEPIN mentioned, excellent soil for crops where you are - you border the rich ancient volcanic Mt Warning range.

    I doubt that its robusta thats over-grown your backyard though, my gut says. If it was originally intended as a commercial crop for harvesting, farmers wouldnt have seen a meaningful profit margin in it - considering other countries grow it better, and sell it cheaper than a farmer here could justify.

    NSW DPI developed a K7 hybrid arabica cultivar in the early 80s, specifically designed to complement the altitude/weather/soil of your area. It was a market driven exercise, as macadamias were identified as a saturated commodity at the time, and farmers wanted to diversify accordingly.

    Canny operators like Mountain Top Estate took this on with gusto, also employing advanced drying/processing techniques, which has resulted in them in producing seasonal harvests with fairly unique qualities in the cup. Albeit, a tad inconsistent from year-to-year.

    [Do a search on this forum, and see quite a few posts highlighting the conflicting views of CSer cupping opinions on MTE]

    Anyways, that aside Im no botanical scientist, but I am a keen gardener, and have noticed over the years that natives I plant in complementary soil thrive when ignored - they become hardier to the conditions, & blossom more fruitfully with a simple irregular pruning, but no pedantic toiling or fertilising or watering schedule on my part.

    So Mickey, maybe the strength youre tasting is a result of an untamed organic crop left to go wild - a robust arabica :-?

    Could also be your roasting results ... let them cook way into SC (second crack-ling youll hear, like the sound of crimpling foil), and youll lose the intrinsic subtleties inherent in the bean, but get a roasty taste that you may be tasting/perceiving as strength.

    Onya for probing though mate - take KKs offer up & travel up to Briz for a few lessons in home roasting with some of those magic beans. I might even like to pop over to give a hand. ;)

    Tony

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    I think you may be on the money Tony
    A sleuth sent me this:
    Notification of Development Application Determinations for the purposes of
    Section 101 of the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act, 1979 (as
    amended).

    LOCATION & DA NO TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT DECISION

    Lot 67, DP 787412,
    Glenbrae Drive
    Terranora

    0143/2001DA

    the establishment of a coffee
    plantation

    Approved.

    This (all housing now) plantation is about a Kilometre or so away .
    It would be a perfect flight for birds to raid it and head for the giant mango trees that this coffee grows under .

    Some things Ive observed:
    Its is smooth in flavour when dark roasted and Definitely has a strong kick/Hit
    I Think It could be better prepared and I am an Amateur learning *
    This may be just me as my wife likes it but today said she did not feel the kick as much as any other office coffee.(But then she says that about a lot of things)
    I only drink one or two cups a day, But like a good cup when I do.
    I would love to get an CS appraisal on my bean (Brown Snake) is the name Ive given it as it is Brown snakes I have to fight off to get it.
    I was late in the berry season to discover it , so only picked a small amount to play with. Plus some plants are in jungle so thick it will take a while to get to.(snakes)
    Next season will be when I can get some sort of tangible crop and replanting into my property as hedges / screens.
    This seems to be a long term thing as the old stands will need to be grafted onto there own root stock.
    My coffee plants face a southern escarpment face of the Volcano Fringe whereas the 80;s plantation Ive found faced the North.
    Once I bring them out They will get sun all day.
    In the mean time I might just get a CS starter Pack and Now concentrate on learning the HOW TO Dry beans AND roast them.


    Thanks

    Mickymaddrippen






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    Re: Secret Plantation

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickymadrippens link=1221990352/0#9 date=1222090469
    giant mango trees
    Brings back memories of my youth.
    Lying in a giant mango tree in my friends back yard and eating all the mangos we wanted.
    Then hosing ourselves off, as wed be covered in juice.
    A perfect summer day in Big River Country.

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    Mickey,
    Id love to see some photos, sounds like a bloody nice part of the country.

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    Re: Secret Plantation

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    I know of an unused coffee plantation in Brisbane. Perhaps the owner can be persuaded to let some Brisbane CSers pick some berries.

    Probably about a year or so ago, I dropped in on the Dr. Red winery at Mt. Nebo. I noticed they have quite a few coffee trees planted there (which were covered in berries at the time). I asked if the coffee they sell came from those trees, but he said it didnt. He said that because of water restrictions they werent able to process the berries, so they just left them on the trees. I dont know if this is still the case, but it might be worth following up on.



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