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    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Just getting towards the end of my starter packs. This is the first time Ive tried roasting. Great experience esp. the first roast, wondering what the first crack will sound like, then the second ........was that a crack?...........yep, I think it was ........quick turn it off........Oh yeah! Im getting better with every roast. Wife still rolls her eyes when shes sees me roasting. Just doesnt get it like she doesnt get golf. Cest la vie.
    Ill need to restock my supply. My favourite was Rwandan Cyangugu. Does anyone have any recommendations

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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    Try any green beans from Coffee Snobs.
    Tasting the different varieties is an education in itself.

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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    Hi Andy
    do you sell decaff green beans?
    Cheers Andrew

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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    tricka,

    Welcome. Decaf green beans do appear in the beanbay every now and then. I think there have been 3 or 4 this year.

    As to the exact lineup of beans for sale each month, Andy gets samples and tries to only go ahead with good quality stuff.

    Sometimes, he knows a little while in advance if a particular bean is coming up, but usually, the lineup is not finalised until a few days before the beanbay.

    Next beanbay advice will probably come out next week, so keep an eye out.

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    Thanks starter pack turned up today
    roasted up 3 lots. Having a little trouble getting any favour out of them
    Can you tell me the recommended roasts for each flavour?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricka link=1113484527/90#103 date=1192427728
    roasted up 3 lots. Having a little trouble getting any favour out of them
    Can you tell me the recommended roasts for each flavour?
    Cheers A
    Gday tricka and Welcome to CoffeeSnobs [smiley=thumbsup.gif].....

    Basically, Id advise you to check through our Cupping Room and glean the info you seek from there. Ideal roasts for individual beans is a very personal thing and what may suit me would not suit you. Of course, we can give you generic roast profiles to get you started but a Rule of Thumb would be to try roasting three small batches of each bean variety such that the first roast goes to the first snaps of 2nd-Crack, next roast to say 30 seconds before this point and the last about 30 seconds into Rolling 2nd-Crack.

    Give them a couple of days to rest and degas, then cup each roast using a small French Press or Direct in Cup and record your cupping impressions for each roast profile against the roast data for each one. This will provide you with ballpark roasting data from which you can then fine-tune to suit your exact preference for each of the beans you have now and using this system, you will be able to develop a useful guide for all future bean varieties that make their way into your stash. All the best and happy roasting :),

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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    disregard my prior post - thanks I was just under roasting - first taste of bitter and I knew what it was - have gone for a dark roast esp on the larger Columbian bean and its a much happier camper.

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    Just received the starter pack - that was really fast shipping.

    Cant wait to get started.

    Thanks Andy.

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    No worries Den78.

    We try to get them out as soon as payment clears and the posties do a great job of getting them to your door.

    Australia Post express costs a couple of dollars more than some of the cheaper options but they deliver EVERYWHERE in this big country and they are very quick.

    You should enjoy your roasting journey
    (the rest of us certainly are!)


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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    I got my starter pack in todays mail. Thank you very much.

    Unfortunately a couple of my bags split in transit (Indian Kaapi Royale Robusta and Brazil Santos).

    Given these 2 are now mixed up in the calico bag, is this going to make a big difference if I roast these 2 together?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    Hey All I have been playing with my starter pack,...but has anyone got a discription as stats ont he beans????

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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    The starter pack contents change from time to time.

    Which beans did you get and what do you want to know?

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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    ok i got

    Colombian Volcan Galeras
    Panama Volcan Baru
    Indian Kaapi Royal Robusta
    Brazil Santos

    I guess any info on best use, best blend, origin, recommended styles, that sort of thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason.jasonjones link=1113484527/105#111 date=1197091053
    ok i got

    Colombian Volcan Galeras
    Panama Volcan Baru
    Indian Kaapi Royal Robusta
    Brazil Santos

    I guess any info on , that sort of thing
    Hi Jason
    best use: drink as coffee
    best blend: dont! try them all as single origins
    origin: the Colmbian is from Colombia, the Panama is from Panama, etc. ;)
    recommended styles: Keep the robusta for between 10-14 days before trying it and pinch your nose when you do

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    And ... if you do want to blend the robusta with any of the others in your stash, Id recommend limiting it to 10% of the total mass - any more than that, & youll find it difficult to taste anything else

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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis link=1113484527/105#112 date=1197091712
    Keep the robusta for between 10-14 days before trying it and pinch your nose when you do
    ;D ;) ::)

    I had a laugh, youre a funny bloke Dennis..... The poor bloke will be using welding gloves and respirator when it comes time to roast the Robusta ;D

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    The Kaapi Royal is fairly tame fellas.

    ;)

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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis link=1113484527/105#112 date=1197091712
    Quote Originally Posted by jason.jasonjones link=1113484527/105#111 date=1197091053
    ok i got

    Colombian Volcan Galeras
    Panama Volcan Baru
    Indian Kaapi Royal Robusta
    Brazil Santos

    I guess any info on , that sort of thing
    Hi Jason
    best use: drink as coffee
    best blend: dont! try them all as single origins
    origin: the Colmbian is from Colombia, the Panama is from Panama, etc. ;)
    recommended styles: Keep the robusta for between 10-14 days before trying it and pinch your nose when you do

    oh thanks, and where is the indian from :)

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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    Thanks for the starter pack, the variety is excellent!
    Just thought Id take a leap of faith (first attempt at this ever!!!) and roasted 100g Brazil sweet naturals in a wok.
    2 days later= heaven in a cup.
    With a lovely caramel flavour like that I cant wait to try the others now.
    Thanks again Andy.

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    Excellent to hear your first results were great and you are having fun on your new coffee discovery journey.

    Donít forget to take lots of notes along the way so you can replicate the best roasts (or even improve them in future)

    Enjoy!


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    Noob pack is on its way! ohhhhh

    Hello all!
    Ive got a bone to pick with you!
    You lot have sent me in to a spinning spirally thing of coffee madness, picture this......me....single....livin the life, down at harvey norman......great looking young female salesperson walks up, "Hi there, can i help you!", "um yeah, whats the best price you can do on that purple kids popcorn machine?, girl laughs......"its for roasting coffee beans!", "sure it is!", "no really, it is, its a very popular way of doing it!(defending myself!), "oh ok, um ill find out"......i left with my tale between my legs! :-[
    Anyhow, i never managed to get a popcorn machine yesterday, ill do a little more research into it in the forum first, but i have ordered my newbie starter pack!, got the email!.....on its way!.....so excited!
    Thanks heaps for introducing me to(and getting into a very serious relationship with) coffee and everything that goes with it, 3 weeks ago i was making coffees in my breville bar italia, now i have a silvia, rocky, pullman tamp on its way, naked PF, 600ml Jug, cleaning accessories, choc duster and more, now im getting a POPCORN MACHINE and a ELECTRONIC TEMP GUAGE!(off Andy) bloody nora!......he he, boys and their toys!
    Ill never forgive you!
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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    Good onya Warren, sounds a familiar tale.

    Popper is a great way to get into roasting. Corretto in 3 months but - guaranteed. ;D

    Enjoy the ride.

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    Ha ha yeah im pretty sure i have blood flowing through my upgraditis system somewhere there!

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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    Hello all,
    My noobie pack just turned up! :),but....similar to what happened to someone else here in this thread, 3 of the 4 600g satchels where split open at the bottom of the ziplock bag :(, disappointing but, how will kenya AB, colombian volcan galeras supremo bold and honduras marcala SHG organic HG roast together, not too well im guessing?
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    Thats unfortunate mate.... :(

    Have you sent Andy an email to let him know? Im not familiar with the Honduran bean but Im sure Andy will be able to let you know :),

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    Thatís a pity Warren, it does happen if your postie is particularly rough in fact Iím sure that if it was packed in steel then the same posties would manage to damage it.

    We send 200-300 odd of these every year and we only have 3 or so a year split and can only assume it happens when something very heavy (or lots of heavy things) are placed on-top of the satchel during freight. Sadly you drew the short straw.

    Please understand that these starter packs do cost us more to send then what we charge for them and we really do our best to pack the best we can. After the last report we changed to the Glad brand of bags and hoped that would help if it hasnít then we will continue to try and find a better alternative. Cotton would be better but will add another couple of dollars to each pack.

    The upside is that your mixed roast will be fine and Iím sure you will still be blown-away with the results.

    Enjoy!

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    Sweet andy, just wanted to make sure they would roast together ok, thanks for the service....so fast.

    Got the WOW espresso beans too and my Rocky turned up as well 8-), OMG!, after a few (30 or so) experimental shots to get the grind right, i sent out a bulk text to about 10 mates to come and try your WOW beans.........every single person loved it and said it was the best coffee theyd had, 2 of which are baristas!,(didnt i look like the local connoisseur)

    Great roast mate!, credit to your expertese

    Cant wait to get popper roasting myself!
    cheers to all
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    Quote Originally Posted by WSullivan link=1113484527/120#122 date=1202716428
    how will kenya AB, colombian volcan galeras supremo bold and honduras marcala SHG organic HG roast together, not too well im guessing?

    Sorry to hear of your mishap Warren, but Ive been having some fun with pre-blend roasts, once theyve settled in together in the bag (which it appears yours have by accident) - mainly to equalise moisture content. As long as one bean isnt much more delicate than the others (like Brazil Sweet Naturals from latest Bean Bay :( ). I dont know the Honduras either but if Andy says itll go good with the other 2, then it will.

    Just dont expect the results to be as mind blowingly good as the WOW (at least not at first ;) ). Keep your fan right up to the popper and probably pull at start of second crack.

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    Thanks GregJW for the tip, start of the second crack ey, i cant wait to get the popper and start playing with green beans!
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    well well well, i picked up my crazy popper last night, came home and did a little pre roast research on this wonderful site, roasted up my accidental combo blend of kenya AB, colombian volcan galeras supremo bold and honduras marcala SHG organic HG, pulled it about 30 sec after second crack,round the 7 min mark, left it for 24 hours.......(impatient ;)), ground it nice and fine and pulled my first home popper roast shot...........yessssssssss, plenty of crema with lovely colour, nice 30sec 60ml shot, threw 30 ml in the fridge for ron, steamed the milk and finished it off with a VERY average attempt at a rosetta, had a sip and wow....beautiful, real toffee sort of taste to it, great just great, you can really taste the difference hey!, im now in love with home roasting.....love this hobby/obsession!
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    and the rosetta :-[


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    Nice work Warren, great looking shot of the pour and art.

    Enjoy the journey!




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    Thanks Andy, will do mate, some people just dont understand......its a coffee thing....they wouldnt understand(jeep promo joke he he)

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    Wow! that was quick! Received my Starter pack today. Many thanks Andy! Really looking forward to testing the Corretto out with them! Your pack is a great way to whet a newbies appetite. :-)

    Rob

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    Just wondering, if i order my starter pack, can i choose the bean that i like?

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    What is that about give an inch? Good try bucko!

    The starter pack is a mostly random selection of beans from the current and previous BeanBay sales, sometimes its a special bean that is only available in starter packs. We try and mix the origins and the processing so you get to try a few (ie: you shouldnt ever get 4 lots of brazil beans).

    If you are at the point of choosing the bean you like and dont want to experiment then I doubt the starter pack is suitable for you and maybe you would do better just buying what you need from the monthly bulk BeanBay sales.


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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    Hi all, received my starter pack today. Thank you Andy. It contained:
    Panama Corsa, Indian Kappi Royale, Nicaragua HG Bold and Aust Boomerang Peaberry Naturals.

    Like a few others have experienced two of the 600g sample bags were split and I have an "accidental blend" of at least half the Panama Corsa & Indian Kappi Royale.

    Does anyone know how they will work together? Or Not?

    Anyway, whilst I await a roaster I used the popper this afternoon to roast up the blend to CS-10/11 and will give it a try in the morning..

    Bottoms up!
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    Well, after giving my "accidental blend" a few days to de-gas I tried it today. Not too bad at all. Im happy to do another roast "as is" without adding more beans to alter the taste. I would have never thought to blend these two together.

    My opinion of the Starter Packs, awesome variety and great value.
    Thanks for offering us noobs something to get us started...

    maybe double bagging would help avoid the splitting of the bags.

    May the journey begin! Im in... heh ;)

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    Received my starter pack friday.
    Thanks Andy, very much, great service and the bags arrived intact.
    Looking forward to trying the different beans

    Cheers

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    Re: Starter Packs for newbie roasters.

    Received my start pack today. In the bag:

    1) Indian Mysore Nuggets A Grade
    2) Colombian Volcan Galeras
    3) Brazil Monte Carmelo
    4) Ugandan Bugisu AA

    All arrived intact and well packaged - excellent service... thanks Andy!

    Rushed home from work with the new beans and already roasted my first batch! Cant wait to cup them.


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    This thread can make it look like they often arrive in broken bags but the truth is that we do send 100s of these each year and very few have the "split bag" problems. Those that are split would have copped enough abuse at the hands of the postie that even in bullet-proof packing they would have gotten damaged.

    Have fun playing with the different varieties and drinking fresh coffee (often for the first time!). Its a great hobby and Im sure you will be amazed at the results you will get in the cup.

    Enjoy!

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    Received mine today. All intact. I am impressed that Andy can get the beans to Cairns in 3 days and TNT take a week.

    Having trouble finding a roasting profile for the Ugandan Bugisu AA and Brazil Monte Carmelo. I am using a popper for the first time so I imagine I will have a steep learning curve and some undrinkable coffee but what the hell that is what learning is all about. :-/ :-/

    If you have roasted these please advise the CS number you roasted to as I havent got a Temperature measuring device yet.


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    Gday Stan,

    With both these beans mate, I think youre really pushing the proverbial uphill to get the best out of em with a popper, just way too quick. Id recommend that you reduce your batch size down to what ever it takes to slow the roast down to at least 11-12 minutes for Rolling FC and then, if possible, get to around CS 8-9 about 5-6 minutes after that. Dont allow the roasts to enter SC at all as this will rapidly destroy the intrinsic flavour characteristics of both these bean varietals and that would be a real shame.

    This is of course my roast profile preference and yours may differ substantially from that but the above will be a good place to start anyway.... :)

    Cheers mate,
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    Thanks, All I have is a popper at this stage. This will be its first use, I may save them for when I upgrade to a ?? (possible TO setup in the initial stage of planning and aquisition) but I will probably sacrifice some in the popper to see how they go. ;)

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    Stan goodluck roasting, I think I hear a Corretto calling

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    Ok guys please ignore my total lack of knowledge here :D (new to cs) and about to buy my first real coffee machine in a couple of days! I am interested in roasting my own beans as I have not had the pleasure of drinking a fresh brew! Going by your posts you roast the beans in a popcorn maker? how long would you roast for?

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    Hi ihugcoffee and welcome to CS!

    Yes, lots of people start their roasting journey with a popcorn maker. Depending on how much coffee you drink, you might find you quickly outgrow it, but its a great way to start to see if you like roasting at home.

    Try looking through some of the posts here to get you started...http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?board=roasting

    All the best!

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    Got an email at nine oclock this morning informing me my starter pack is on its way. Eagerly waiting in anticipation for the beans to arrive at my door.

    Thanks Andy



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