Hmmm, any information on the meaning of "Double pass".
Below is the monthly newsletter / BeanBay heads-up that we just emailed to all CS members.
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What a huge coffee month this has been culminating in the AASCA Australian Barista Championship in Melbourne a little over a week ago. Those that were lucky enough to see the competition at the Beach Club were treated to easily the best group of professional bariste and baristi ever to compete on Australian shores.
Their presentation, preparation and level of commitment was truly outstanding as they produced their espresso, cappuccino and signature drink courses for the National and International judging panel over the two days of competition. Every spectator in the audience that I spoke to on the day of the final had selected a different potential winner which reinforced the unusually strong and very even level of competition this year.
The Australian Barista Champion for 2008 is: David Makin
(who is also a CoffeeSnob site sponsor!)
The Latte Art competition was fiercely fought out on the Saturday with the eventual winner decided by a tiny 2 point margin after nailing a quad rosetta in the last cup. Congratulations to the Australian Latte Art Champion 2008: Habib Maarbani
The Cup tasting competition is an event that suffers from a conceptual thought that watching people slurp coffee would be as exciting as watching paint dry but that is far from the truth as those that were in the audience would attest. The crowd participation and excitement built to fever pitch as the competition result hung on the very last cup to determine the National title. Congratulations to the Australian Cup Tasting Champion 2008: Catherine Ferrari.
Catherine, David and Habib are all heading to Copenhagen to compete as Australiaís representatives in the WBC World Barista Competition. Iím sure CoffeeSnobs everywhere will be cheering them on.
CoffeeSnobs very proudly supplied and roasted the coffees used in the Victorian and the National Cup Tasting competition this year and we will post details of the coffees selected and their combinations on the website soon.
BeanBay - Wednesday 14th May 9pm (AEST)
This BeanBay we have some of the finest coffees produced in this country. The Mountain Top Estate Bin lots have been selected by champion baristas all over the world and Iím excited to say that we can offer 3 of these special bin lots this month.
The 2008 crop was quite small due to the lack of rain during the growing season at Mountain Top Estate but that seems to have produced an intensity that is rarely seen in locally grown coffees and for me they have become far closer to a clean Indonesian coffee than the traditionally milder Australian bean. We purchased the entire MTC stock of these beans and they are all appearing in BeanBay this month in our standard 2.5kg cotton bags.
Australian Mountain Top Estate
Bin 35 Plantation Fancy (Double Pass) $22/kg
Bin 478 Xtra Fancy (Semi-Washed) $22/kg
Bin 549 Fancy (Washed) $22/kg
The 5000th CoffeeSnob member competition is still open for entries but not for much longer. There have been some amazing entries so far and we have a huge prize pool available for the list of winners that will judged by the site moderators so get your free entry in soon. Full details on the website
Have a great coffee month CSírs,
Hmmm, any information on the meaning of "Double pass".
Try Mountain Top Estates website?
[smiley=thumbsup.gif] Youre a legend Andy. Cant wait!
From Mountain Tops website:
"Double-Pass Process - is from the raisin-like, purple and black colour cherry. The fruit is left to ripen on the tree longer than normal; it is then soaked to re-hydrate the skin prior to pulping and washing. The lateness of the harvest increases the sugar content in the fruit by up to 30%. This processing style results in a more complex, dark style of sweetness."
Nice! I think I am a dark style of sweetness kindaguy...Originally Posted by Wine_of_the_Bean link=1210601973/0#3 date=1210631808
Its a great time to start roasting and buying greens!
Sorry: complete newbie green beanbay person question: what is the minimum weight of purchase? If I am reading the beanbay section correctly, it is 2.5kg?
2.5kg is minimum. You can split a bag if you arrange with another CSer.
Theres a typo in the link... a missing f?Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1210601973/0#0 date=1210601972
Typoes everywhere :P
Is there only three greens on offer this BeanBay, or have I got it wrong yet again??
There will be others..... (some in small quantities)
Its just they are the main ones on offer
Phewww, after buying the bling monster, I cant afford beanz @ $22/kg !! * :(
I think youll find deliberate typos in any "links" to coffeesnobs pages.
I expect they are designed to "trick" hackers (or the auto website scanning tools that they use).
I find this one, from further down in Andys initial post, particularly amusing......not at all accurate mind, but pretty amusing. ;D
Link goes nowhere... or was that the point? :POriginally Posted by Habit link=1210601973/0#11 date=1210648059
I think he is referring to the fact that it is spelt
missing one S and being a slightly different description of our little community 8-)
Yeah, info on double pass (trademark to Mountain Top??!?) is on their website. *
Its a process that as far as I can tell is a combination of the wet hulling that is common in Indonesia and normal washing that is done elsewhere. *The result is a much darker green bean with less of the translucence and earthiness that you get on the premium washed Indonesian beans. *The Bin35 that has the double pass processing roasted a little uneven but cupped really well.
I have had a off line query about the high prices of these beans. *Please understand that these are the premium bean lots from the most renowned estate in the country and these will prob sell for double that price in other areas of the world (if they managed to get any from the 2008 crop).
...and yes, we will also have some other beans in smaller quantities available during BeanBay. *
Typoís ? *I wish I could claim to have done them intentionally, sadly they were the result of a post midnight email after a 16 hour day but Iím sure everyone can extrapolate the contents to something useful.
By funny coincidence COFFEE NOBS is how my 3 year-old says CoffeeSnobs.
I understand that this years MTC crop was a bit smaller than usual and that competition amongst roasters to get any was particularly fierce. Massive props to Andy for securing some of this fine and highly sought-after coffee for CS members.
very excited about this bean bay. hopefully the maling room can get it together and buy some so we can enjoy it at work. the 549 was one of my favourite coffees last year! maybe ever!
is there anyway we can research the coffees that youre selling before we buy? - I want advice on what roast would best suit the coffees and what to look for in the flavours and taste etc etc..
Yaye - Only one more sleep before I can buy
Descriptions will be in BeanBay when it starts, I dont release them prior (in a pointless attempt to slow the rush)
I can recommend checking-out the Mountain Top web site for information about the estate though.
(I dont think their 2008 crop has made the site yet)
Got some El Salvador...
Im happy! Thanks Andy.
Are we not getting any chocolate Andy?
Done and done.
Cheers Andy! :)
I thought that was fast JavaB but I just checked and there were 5 in front of you!
aspiringrobot - was the quickest clicker this month, with ajay and Feathers in the same first minute.
Maybe those guys must use two mice to click!
Nup. Its not an "every month thing". We just have it from time to time. After the last two months I would have guessed that everyone was well stocked in chocolate.Originally Posted by Gavin1 link=1210601973/15#20 date=1210763283
As always, post in the "wishing well" section before the next BeanBay and it helps us determine the need. If lots of people want something we will source it. Easy!
Nice selection Michelle.Originally Posted by Michelle link=1210601973/15#21 date=1210763323
Im sure you will luv em.
My children and I have taken a likeing to the african red drinking chocolate, shame theres none on offer this month......... Oh well cant win em all........... Ray.
Oh I will, I will :DOriginally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1210601973/15#24 date=1210763598
Actually, I had to be out, so I left instructions for Mrs ajay. Oh, shes quick alright!Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1210601973/15#22 date=1210763362
got two more of the Mountain Top Estate beans this time. Cant wait to try the "Double Pass" for sweetness eventhough a guy I know that grows said its known as the "lazy harvest" or "black harvesting" as you just wait for the cherries to shrivel up and fall from the tree or you can just shake the tree and pick what falls from the ground.. similar to macadamias...
still, I have tried two of this companies offerings and cant wait to try these two I purchased this month...
Yes I was also looking for the Chocolate. Not to worry, I will make sure there is a thread in the wishing well for next month. I will be away next month so might have to get a fellow CS in Perth to Order for me.
Still I picked up the El Salvador, Brazil and Zimb. Happy Happy Joy Joy
Jeez, what a quiet Beanbay this month.
I can almost hear the crickets chirping.... Lots of damn fine beans left though.
Thanks so much Andy, from my limited knowledge this looks like an awesome beanbay. Personally Im just inundated with beans, getting through my 07 (or 06?) monsoon malabar etc.. cant afford the MTE right now though are hanging to try it! From all reports its amazing and Australian to boot! 8-)
Thanks once again Andy.
As Mr M said it was a quiet one, and there is still some left.
I guess the price of the MTE offerings put some off.
Almost as dear as Yemen, but that was sure worth it.
I was wanting to try some Aussie beans so grabbed some MTE Bin35.
My wife reckons that coming from Nimbin, they probably have more than just coffee beans in them for the price.
Im looking forward to trying them out in a couple of weeks time.
Im completely staggered at how slowly the MTE beans have been taken up.
I know theyre a bit pricier than the normal imported offerings, but really.
These coffees are lovingly grown by passionate people.
People who could make much better income by growing higher yeild, more profitable crops.
Theyre then picked and processed by folks with fair/proper working conditions for fair/proper wages.
And on top of that, its bloody good coffee, and distinctly Australian.
Thanks Andy for giving us the chance to get hold of these beans, and do a bit to support Aussie coffee into the bargain.
Theres nothing I would like better myself than to support the Aussie coffee growers,. I cant wait to try Aussie beans and plan to keep Aussie beans on hand as soon as I whittle down some more my current stash (approx 8.5kg). I dont mind paying a little extra per kilo for Aussie beans.. its not that which prevents me from buying it,.. but the outlay of $55 on one bean variety that prevents me personally.Originally Posted by Habit link=1210601973/30#33 date=1210854675
Guys get on the MTE damn good stuff.
When i was in the U.S everyone was talking about it. Top 5 coffees I had last year
I must admit I thought the up-take of the best that this country produces would have been higher and was a little worried that we didnt have enough of them before BeanBay started.
At $22 a kilo they are still less per kg than the ol stale n dubious crud from the supermarket and half the price of most of the boutique roasted beans around town.
Im sure that those that did take the plunge will enjoy them and those that didnt grab some MTC can work their way through some of their existing stash... its amazing what you find when you revisit a previous bean.
Great quality green beans, home roasted, well rested, freshly ground, expertly :P extracted = Enjoyment guaranteed.
Very true. I bought 2.5kg (the minimum amount) of the Mountain Top Estate Bin 35 but I would have loved to have gotten less of that and maybe have gotten 1 to 1.5kg of each of the 3 Mountain Top Estate Bins on offer. Between my wife and myself, 2.5kgs would last us around 4 months or so and its very hard to choose without being able to test it out.Originally Posted by Remy link=1210601973/30#34 date=1210857574
It would be fantastic if there were some way to divide up the 2.5kg purchases between members who also want smaller amounts but of many different beans (Im quite new to CoffeeSnobs...is there already a way to do this?). Id prefer that than being able to only try out 2 to 3 bean varieties per year - and the Mountain Bin 35, Sample Roaster Pack and Zimbabwe Pezuru Estate I purchased should keep us going for over a year (the great thing is that the starter pack has 4 different types to try)! :-)
I grabbed some MTC bin 549 yesterday morning after missing bean bay the night before. Yeah the price is high, but the yield is probably smaller than a lot of other countries crops and the people who work the plantation would be paid a decent living.If it is any indication the last MTC I bought off beanbay is very well graded with little or no rubbish in it, what i mean is all the beans seem to be the same size.
I would love to have tried it Andy, but having just stocked up - there is only so many beans one can store in a flat! :-XOriginally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1210601973/30#36 date=1210859645
Someone suggesting sharing a bag with someone was a great idea (or a few people) I would have loved to do that, but by the time Ive read it, it was too late to do anything about it.
The price didnt put me off, its just that Im trying to reduce my stash (69kg) and I also figured after reading Andys description that theyd be popular and I wasnt going to deprive someone else of getting some.
mm, looking forward to some mighty fine beans andy :)
Thnaks again Andy. Received my 549 already. Add it to my bulging stash on the bottom shelf of the pantry cupboard. (Hmm... need more space - we dont really need that rice, flour, tinned stuff, etc, do we?)
Oops - did I say thnaks? Sorry, meant to say thansk. (Gotta slow down, no more caffeine for me today :P)
My 549 and tea were waiting for me when I got home.
Honestly, thats just amazing service. Thanks Andy :)
Hopefully therell be some left for next BeanBay, going to squirrel away some dosh to get some more. The smell of these green is just incredible.
Ahhh yes, any faster I would have had to guess what you wanted.
The beauty of PayPal is that the fund transfer is instant and we can start the beans moving quicker. We do aim to provide the worlds best service every way we can. Service is such an important component of the whole experience and sadly (all too often) a forgotten art for some businesses.
To get the beans from a 9pm BeanBay to you today did require packing satchels after midnight and getting them to the main mail depot as soon as they opened on the Thursday... but we know"you guys" are worth it and are itching to get beans into a roaster. Thanks for noticing Michelle!
Yeah, I dont think I mentioned that anywhere... strong sweet fruit aromas just from the green beans.The smell of these green is just incredible.
good old fashioned customer service.... Andy, "you guys" are raising the bar.
many thanks for your efforts!
With 300kg left in the bean bay I will have the unusual possibility of going back for seconds after Ive roasted a batch.
I was lamenting to my main squeeze that the Yemen Ismali was a tad expensive. She cast an eye over my coffee paraphernalia and burst out laughing "Its only $10 per week !" Of course she is right - ignore the cost of the beans, just drink what you like.
(8.5kg is not a stash, 69kg thats a stash - made me feel much better. You have to allow for cyclones, earthquakes, bird flu - a modest 26kg is just prudent)
Tis all relative really... 8.5kg is a huge stash for me,.. considering hubby is a tea drinker and apart from the occasional blowins... Im averaging two doubles a day. *Its the consumption rate to green quantity ratio that determines stash hugey woogeyness for the individual CSr ya know *:P
Well, considering the fact that I live alone, live in a flat with no pantry, let alone a shed or storage room, I have more than 10kg - most of it stored in the sideboard in the loungeroom! ::)Originally Posted by Remy link=1210601973/45#48 date=1210936585