Are there good quantities of the Kone Ka? Looks like the goods!
Monthly BeanBay GREEN Bean Sale
Tuesday 15th Feb
8pm AEDT (East Coast Daylight Savings Time)
8pm ACT, NSW, VIC, TAS
The beans available at the above date/times will be:
Brazil Bourbon Naturals $9/kg*
Sun dried, natural process yeilds far better body in the cup making this well graded Bourbon varietal perfect as a base to more exotic beans in blend or use as a single origin for a coffee that will remind you of many commercial offerings.
Sulawesi Toarco Jaya Triple Picked $13/kg*
This is maybe the best Tana Toraja coffee we have ever seen. *Its fully washed and not wet hulled like other indos but still retains the body. *Very clean processing, graded to large grade 1 beans and triple pick sorted for defects makes this a very pretty roast. *In the cup it is perfectly balanced with a clean finish. Simply a stunner.
Malawi Nyika AA $11/kg*
is a catimor variety that is naturally resistant to pests and rust and allows the farmers to grow using totally organic methods. *Large bean, mid body with a flavour profile that is bold cocoa with a red wine acidic berry finish.
PNG Kone Ka Estate AA grade $12/kg*
I never thought we would find a better washed PNG than the Wahgi but we have just landed its replacement. *These come from the new Kone Ka Estate which is in the same area of PNG but they are producing an even cleaner, better graded AA bean. *Nice body as an espresso and in milk it becomes very sweet with a crisp finish. *Excellent single origin coffee.
Costa Rica San Marcos de Tarrazu Naranjo $14/kg*
That’s a mouthful in more ways than one. *Costa Rica is the country, San Marcos de Tarrazu is the town and these beans come from the Naranjo Estate (not to be confused with the town Naranjo also in the same area). *Great processing and well freighted in grainpro bags this Costa Rican coffee is blossom sweet with a crisp apple finish at a CS8 roast depth. *Perfect coffee for those that enjoy the brightness in a lighter roast.
Kenya Kagongo Peaberry $20.50/kg*
Is a stunning coffee with near perfect processing. *As a green bean it has a sweet fruity aroma and those same florals leap from the grinder. *In the cup it produces a bright lifting espresso, add a splash of milk in a Macchiato to bring the sweetness out of the beans.
* all coffee prices include a 50c/kg FairCrack donation and come in 2.5kg CoffeeSnobs cotton bags.
PNG Kone Ka Estate Peaberry
Peru Ceja de Selva Estate
Ethiopian Gambella Sundried
Ethiopian Harrar Longberry
Brazil Pulped Natural
Indian Monsoon Malabar AA
Cup Of Excellence Nicaragua 2010
Nepal Plantec Estate
Ethiopian Guna Limmu
Mexico Yeni Navan Typica
Robusta Sumatra Teluk Bayur
China Siaou Chu Pearl Tea
Ceylon English Breakfast Tea
Ceylon Irish Breakfast Tea
Earl Grey blended tea.
Russian Caravan Tea
Sumatran Orange Pekoe Superior
You can select direct shipping via Australia Post and Star Track Express along with some other options depending on where you live or you can collect your paid order from...
Pickup Points (one per state)
QLD - Veneziano - West End
NSW - "cksyd" - Kellyville
TAS - "ParaM" – Hobart
SA - Fiefys Specialty Cafe - 45 Pirie St, Adelaide
WA - "Caffeinefreak" – Wembley
VIC - Veneziano - Abbotsford -- (26/2/2011 10.30-11.30)
We hope to get beans to the pickup points by: 25/2/2011
This delivery date is a best guess as we are often at the whim of couriers around the country. *Generally when the beans arrive at the pickup point someone will post in this thread to let you know the time/date that you should meet for the pickup.
Are there good quantities of the Kone Ka? Looks like the goods!
Yep, plenty, even more than you lot o bean-pigs can consume in a month!Originally Posted by 66797B61786D7A7B6C140 link=1297673973/1#1 date=1297674225
(...he says with fingers firmly crossed)
We landed a lot of the Peaberry from the same estate too which shoud last for a month or two more.
Some of the emails just left with the subject line of "Tues 15th Jan".Tues 15th Jan
Oops, of course the date in the actual email and in this thread is the correct one
Tues 15th Feb
Why is it always just after you hit the send button you see that stuff? Anyway, it was only some emails, the rest will have the correct date. -- sorry.
Its like Christmas when i see a new Beanbay sale. *;D
Im very excited to see another Sulawesi bean (the Rante Torajah was amazing), even moreso when i read you view of it, Andy.
Would i be right in suggesting its one of the very few fully washed Indonesian beans?
Also very happy to see a Costa Rican bean bob up after having some cracking Costa Rican SO brews at Maling Room in recent weeks.
Really intrigued by the Malawi bean and in my no doubt endless quest to roast beans from every producing country, it too will be in my basket.
As always, i cant wait to get these beans even if ive got no room, no money and no inclination to explain to the better half why i desperately need yet more beans.*;)
Ristrom Im the same I had a laugh but that Kenya Kagongo Peaberry sounds like it would fit in well with my blacks and his whites :)
Indian Monsoon Malabar AA was featured at a recent Campos cupping session - great coffee to try for those that like a non acidic espresso. Great in my Sunbeam cafe series espresso machine :)
Theres some free space in the Flynn bean stash cupboard and theres some irresistible beans up for grabs. Top that with the prospect of rising prices and it looks like there will be no respite for me this month.
We really are spoiled for choice and Christmas has come early to the CS community.
WARNING, dumb newbie questions follow.
Though I have my sampler pack Andys price-hike email scared me so I am ready to buy *:-?. *That is despite my amazement at the posts talking about coffee green bean characteristics I only previously heard of in wine, I have a lot to learn. *
Those dumb newbie questions:
What is the Monthly BeanBay GREEN Bean Sale in one sentence?
Do I have to buy 2.5 KG of a particular bean?
My CS research is correct and green beans last a long time (like 24 months)?
NEWBIE DUMB QUESTIONS WARNING NOW OVER. *:D
Each month, new beans are released into beanbay.coffeesnobs.com.au and some of those beans are in limited supply so will sell out quickly hence the once a month thing.Originally Posted by 2C282B2E202E470 link=1297673973/7#7 date=1297683666
Yes. Some of them are packaged in 2kg bags, but yes, you cant buy smaller quantities.Originally Posted by 2C282B2E202E470 link=1297673973/7#7 date=1297683666
I think this is up for debate, but 2-3 years seems to be what most people agree on.Originally Posted by 2C282B2E202E470 link=1297673973/7#7 date=1297683666
Thanks RichardM, I understand more. So it is down to me to read the reviews to decide which beans... hmmm.
I gather there are pick up points rather than shipping costs available?
Is that Malawi I see???? :o :o
I can now do my special blend that I have missed for like....ages. :D
Is a URL ( http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1111152844 ) a sentence?Originally Posted by 0A0E0D080608610 link=1297673973/7#7 date=1297683666
It takes a page to explain and even then it makes more sense after you have done it once.
Being in Melbourne you can pickup the beans from Veneziano in Abbotsford if you meet me (and the other CSrs) there on the 26th Feb 2011 10.30-11.30
Yes, all our beans are packed in 2.5kg bags. All of us old CSrs know you are thinking 2.5kg is a lot of beans but in no time you will be posting that you wished you bought 5kg last month before it sold out. (we all did the same)Originally Posted by 0A0E0D080608610 link=1297673973/7#7 date=1297683666
Anyone from Brisbane want to go halves with me on a bag of the Kenyan peaberry?
Yep. Most of the Indo islands use wet hulling to process the beans, Torajah had the altitude, clean water supply and lower humidity to use the more "standard" wash and dry processing.Originally Posted by 5454541E0 link=1297673973/3#3 date=1297676742
Other areas of Indonesia are experimenting with different processing methods but thats a discussion for next month (I hope).
We love "special blends".Originally Posted by 537F7D7D7F6D417D76777D757F1E0 link=1297673973/10#10 date=1297685898
Youre welcome Flynn.Originally Posted by 78726770707F6B6D1E0 link=1297673973/6#6 date=1297682862
The rising prices note in the email wasnt really a scare campaign to promote sales, it was just a heads-up that prices are going to "go nuts" this year. *Originally Posted by 78726770707F6B6D1E0 link=1297673973/6#6 date=1297682862
The current pricing graph is below. *You can see 18 months of the 2 years was pretty steady then it shot up with no sign of peaking yet. *
The flow-on is interesting too, apart from higher pricing on anything bought in the last few months the secondary problem is that in a rising market farmers hold onto their beans because for every month they can hang-on they get another 8% odd for that crop.
Of course, the farmer that is holding onto the beans causes the market to have less available for sale and ergo the price for what is available goes up more...
Is the Brazil Bourbon Naturals like the Brazil Original Bourbon?
Yes, a URL is a sentance Andy and it answered all my questions- Cheers.
Cool ;DOriginally Posted by 696D6E6B656B020 link=1297673973/15#15 date=1297722306
From memory and notes, yes quite similar although I think this one is a cleaner processing.Originally Posted by 0F0416030804120F0E03610 link=1297673973/14#14 date=1297722230
Understood that but it will probably have the effect of boosting sales anyway.Originally Posted by 6A454F522B0 link=1297673973/13#13 date=1297722013
Interesting graph. It suggests the price may double inside the year ending July 2011 if the current trend continues.
I guess long suffering farmers deserve earning better money for their crop but I also wonder if holding their crops back means we will be seeing beans from the previous season hitting the markets (and maybe even advertised as this years)?
Damn, I edited that out of my post but you picked it up anyway :-[. Im sure you understood the intent :).Originally Posted by 6A454F522B0 link=1297673973/13#13 date=1297722013
Yikes! I think Ill stock up on some tried and tested beans. I use Brazil Natural pulped in lot of my blends. I figure I go through about 35kg of coffee per year.
How long do green coffee beans last in pantry before they degrade?
say 3yrs * 35kg = :D
I hope not! It would push the roasted price out to $70-$80kgOriginally Posted by 63697C6B6B647076050 link=1297673973/17#17 date=1297724490
:o :o :o
It could, but I expect without good storage and living in high humidity areas they then run the risk of mould and other nasties that would make it worth zero. I expect its more a month to month holding of available beans as they speculate on the price.Originally Posted by 63697C6B6B647076050 link=1297673973/17#17 date=1297724490
Of course! (I needed a smiley on my reply). I get cursed every BBay by CSrs who were trying to not buy any beans.Originally Posted by 63697C6B6B647076050 link=1297673973/17#17 date=1297724490
A couple of years without a problem, 3 or more if you store them very well. I roasted some well stored Puerto Rico Yauco from 2.5 years ago and they came up as good as I remembered.Originally Posted by 686C6B736066050 link=1297673973/18#18 date=1297727324
The reviews ive read of this bean are nothing short of outstanding so that combined with Andys thoughts make it a very appealing prospect.Originally Posted by 3D262F3E2B3D2627283A2B3C4E0 link=1297673973/4#4 date=1297679948
*Sticks Snout in the Air*....i smell green bean bay!!!! :P
Oh well, I have a spare shelf[almost] in my bean cabinet. I can feel another stock up coming on ;) :). I almost out of Peruvian anyway :(
I was doing really well trying to cure my addiction of buying from every BeanBay 8-) Oh well, time to hide beans around the house again ;D ;D
Well the wholesale market price would double from $1.40 to $2.80 or thereabouts)which hopefully will only increment the retail price by $1.40 to $2 per kg.Originally Posted by 0E212B364F0 link=1297673973/19#19 date=1297728792
You know we are only looking for someone else to blame other than our own weak willpower ;DOriginally Posted by 0E212B364F0 link=1297673973/19#19 date=1297728792
Darn. Andy - youve got a Malawi bean!!!! I promised Mrs. KJM Id not buy any more beans until the stash gets smaller.... And then you get the Malawi :-/ :-/ Daughter #2s most favourite-in-the-whole-world SO espresso...
Originally Posted by 7776713C0 link=1297673973/25#25 date=1297733556
....Its a false economy Kevin... i let my stash run down trying to do the same thing....the only result being that at the last bean bay i became one of Andys Famous Bean Pigs!!! …trying to despewrartly re-fill my stock *;D
Those prices in the graph are for commodity coffee per pound at the farm.Originally Posted by 78726770707F6B6D1E0 link=1297673973/24#24 date=1297733344
Multiply by 2.2 to make it per kilo, add $$$ internal brokerage and ground transport to the docks, add funigation certs $$, documentation $$, sea freight $$$$ and then clearing fees $$$, Dock fees $$, duties $$$, unloading $$, AQIS fees $$, freight to store $$$ and thats before any local packing and distribution costs!
The fees addup to about $6/kg for small lots and $3/kg for full container loads on top of the current price of $5.50 for the beans... and thats the costs to land commodity grade (typically C grade) coffee. So even on current pricing at origin, commodity grade (nasty) will be about $10/kg and high grade (AB grade and above) will land at about $15 which makes the specialty coffees push into the minimum $20/kg range and $30-$50 will become quite common.
Im curious how the cafes that are under contract for $18/kg roasted will go as that sort of price will quickly become less than cost even for low grade blends. Im sure there are some sales dudes in big roasting compaines cleaning up their CVs at the moment too.
Hi All , I live on the Central Coast / Gosford area and work in the Hornsby area . Is there a Bean Bay pickup place anywhere near either ? As I am looking at buying a Roaster / starting to roast . Thanks Rick
Originally Posted by 7368626A656E766F746F656473010 link=1297673973/28#28 date=1297749005
As per Andys first post in this thread, the only NSW pickup point is in Kellyville.
It happens to be us. ;)
rick just cop the freight charge, its not much anyway and for the chance to get great beans I dont mind paying it :) Once we buy a house Im seriously considering becoming a bean bay collection point, not for the cheap freight prices but for the chance to meet up with others and talk coffee :)
Can I swear at you too Andy, bah humbug, I really really shouldnt, I spent all my bean money on the Sprong, well maybe just one more bag, Ive got to have something to put through the Sprong after all, I really really really really shouldnt !!! ;D
If he is buying a Behmor, there is no freight charge. I have informed him of this via PM.Originally Posted by 564D445540564D4C43514057250 link=1297673973/30#30 date=1297752126
Thats why we do itOriginally Posted by 564D445540564D4C43514057250 link=1297673973/30#30 date=1297752126
Thanks for the info / answers / PMs guys ! Rick
Can I arrange a pick up from CS Geelong?
I believe so. When you finish BeanBay it will have the options for pickup or delivery at the end of checkout.Originally Posted by 484F5E4D5E565E57545F423B0 link=1297673973/33#33 date=1297758383
You can.Originally Posted by 6B6C7D6E7D757D74777C61180 link=1297673973/33#33 date=1297758383
All you need do is choose the first delivery option (Pick up from North Geelong) and then Andy will email you when your order is ready to be picked up.
Geez that Ghimbi goes quick, before Id made up my mind it was gone I had a laugh It is definitely one of our favourites so far.
Thanks for a great selection again Andy, including some nice little treats in amongst the throng! Not sure if it was me or not but my web page kept hanging - reminded me of days gone by! Thanks again.
well...... if its for your daughter, Im sure Mrs KJM will understand!Originally Posted by 6160672A0 link=1297673973/25#25 date=1297733556
Same here. Seemed to be a lot of load on the server.Originally Posted by 073027272426302929202B74450 link=1297673973/37#37 date=1297760881
... another 12.5kg on the way to me :)
First time on the BeanBay - man that was cool! Great to see the stuff flying out the door like that, and I managed to snaffle some Ugandan Masaba that Id not seen since my starter pack and loved! I had my plan of attack all worked out and then saw that one and it threw me off course! ;D
Cracking service Andy, looking forward to pick up.
Awesome! *I now own 12.5 KG of very interesting green beans, thanks! Guess I better get a roaster as I cant try them until roasted... *:-/
Thankyou once again Andy. Nice to have a couple surprises thrown into the frenzy! Ill enjoy the 5kg of Kuza I managed to pounce on in the first minute.....How can one resist? Cheers!
Andy you rotten sod you went and got more orange pekoe tea :(
and i went nuts last month so cant get anything this time
is it something you get fairly often at all, as it will need to wait a month or 2
Its not just you, it was lagged quite a lot at my end too.Originally Posted by 477067676466706969606B34050 link=1297673973/37#37 date=1297760881
I love the little surprises but with the lag i didnt get in quick enough for the Kuza, which looks really interesting.
Ah, youre the culprit. ;)Originally Posted by 4865607A7D68607B38090 link=1297673973/42#42 date=1297761376
Wow - havent seen a Bean Bay feeding frenzy for a while. Some surprises there too. Kuza - didnt expect that!
No room here for procrastinators! Blink and you miss it!
Cheers Andy ;D
I came on-line at 5.10 (WA time) and quite a few were already sold out, back to the good old days :D :D :D :D
managed to order 15kg to bolster the already bursting bean locker ;) ::) ::)
great selection Andy :)
Good work... i was keeping it to a lazy 10kg so as not to join the "bean pig" club! heheheOriginally Posted by 736671717A79757A140 link=1297673973/47#47 date=1297762327
Next time i reckon im up for membership! 8-)
Well, I panicked with the forthcoming price hike. Wasnt quite on the pulse for some of the "hot" items :( but an amazing selection to enjoy anyway. Thanks for putting on such a spread for us Andy!