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    Bad Milk Flavour = Bad Cap

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    We use to frequent Kafeneo at Cronulla quite often until there was a dramtic taste change in the coffee. I initially put it down to a bad brew but eventually asked what had changed. The barista indicated they had changed to Procal milk. Big mistake no matter how much money they save IMO. They used Crema before...and charged $5.00 a cup to cover the cost I guess.

    Has any one else observed such a huge change in their coffee from cafes that use this brand of milk?

    We are deeply dissappointed by this change because we went there every weekend. Now to find another good spot...boy Im going to miss the toasted Pear and Rasberry bread. :)

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    Re: Bad Milk Flavour = Bad Cap

    Hi contactjjjb and welcome to CS!

    Kafenio arent the only ones that use Procal. I know of at least one other great cafe at Cronulla that use it successfully and we do too. Its price is comparable to Crema.

    And Kafenio didnt decide to charge $5 because of any milk change. Word is that they decided to bump their price because they were, "too busy". So now they can make the same amount of money and work less. I dont think they do decaf or skim either, and that certainly has nothing to do with milk. Thats not meant to be a criticism - we each do things the way WE want to. Just dont make milk the scapegoat.

    Am curious to know what you mean by dramatic change...bitter, sweet, weak...?

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    Re: Bad Milk Flavour = Bad Cap

    Ive tried a few different milks lately:
    Coles, Aldi, Dairy Farmers.

    Last week the Dairy Farmers did not taste right.
    It wasnt "off", just different.

    This week I bought Aldi again; it tastes like milk.

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    So "dramatic change" would be described as an off flavour.

    I have reconfirmed this a number of times, so it wasnt just one experience. I guess it comes down to the fact that if I had a coffee shop (and a successful one at that) I wouldnt change something so fundamental as the milk customers had got use to.

    As I mentioned we did discuss the change with the owner and the main driver was cost, this was followed up by a comment that the owner doesnt drink milk with his coffee, so its not a big deal...go figure.

    Any way it was just a general question, if others are using Procal and no one else is complaining then it must be our taste buds. :)

    JH

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    Re: Bad Milk Flavour = Bad Cap

    Milk is a very regional thing- by nature ;)

    Procal has been fine in Melbourne...

    If you like a particular milk, you could take it with you and request that they use yours? Plenty are doing it ith rice milk etc...

    Worth a shot if you love the cafe? :-?

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    I could offer to make it too ;) might get a discount on that $5 a cup.

    There is another coffee shop around the corner called Grind which is also pretty good, but weve noticed the take away cups introduce an aweful paper flavour. Just cant win... :)

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    Re: Bad Milk Flavour = Bad Cap

    No offense cheif but really how many brain cells do you have to buy a cup of coffee for 5 bucks??? Clearly none!!! Dunno if prices have changed, or theres big differences in sydney but a procal rep came into my cafe today and there milk seemed more than comparable in price. I think the fact my coffee company, Genevose uses them has definantly pushed me that way, i had never even heard of them before i took over last week and it helps thats its all one price instead of them trying to charge me extra for skinny...that really pisses me off that the supermarkets charge extra for the skinnyy..assholes

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    Re: Bad Milk Flavour = Bad Cap

    Quote Originally Posted by 646869736664736D6D6D65070 link=1238404625/3#3 date=1238452495
    So "dramatic change" would be described as an off flavour.
    Poor refrigeration, eg. time from delivery to fridge, could be a factor.

    Quote Originally Posted by 646869736664736D6D6D65070 link=1238404625/5#5 date=1238463702
    There is another coffee shop around the corner called Grind which is also pretty good
    With respect, I think they used to be better. If you can go when its quiet (thats a big ask) its great, when theyre busy, not so special IMO.

    Go around another corner to Buzz, and tell my mate Al I sent you. Would be interested to hear what you think as he also uses Procal.

    bourne7 - if you had a few more brain cells, you could probably find a better way of expressing yourself.


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    Re: Bad Milk Flavour = Bad Cap

    Quote Originally Posted by 5D617C676D6C7B6E666D090 link=1238470329/2#2 date=1238476560
    I suggest that taste should be the first requirement then worry about price.
    You arent going to increase sales and get yourselves a good reputation (your stated aims) if the milk tastes like the cow stepped in $hi! then the bucket.

    Priorities grasshopper, priorities.

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    Re: Bad Milk Flavour = Bad Cap

    Bourne7, the reason supermarkets charge more for skinny is that they are charged more to buy it!!!! I dont know of anywhere that prices skinny the same as full cream.



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