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    Crazy short mac foam out of control

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    OMG. I am stunned. It happened again. I visited the new cafe in my area. They seem to have spent a considerable amount of money on remodling and done a fairly styling job. I ordered a short mach, and had the expectations of receiving a half decent brew. And i was served 30ml of black espresso topped with 60ml of foam topped with a sprinkle of what looked (and tasted like) coffee grinds... I am hoping it was chocolate powder but i have my doubts. The first time i went in an was served this i thought it must be an oversight. But this time he did it again and it boggles my mind how the owners of this new (heavily invested) business in a competitive, high quality region that i am in, thinks this is acceptable?!

    I scooped the foam off, but maybe i am missing something. Are there countries where this is an acceptable way to serve a short mach?

    (end rant) *

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    Re: Crazy short mac foam out of control

    New and heavily invested businesses go out of business every day because they invest in equipment, not skills or knowledge.

    Add to that the almost total lack of agreed definitions of most coffee terms, then the chance of a good cup, the way you want it, is not very high.

    Better luck next place.

    Greg
    (Ive almost totally given up trying new places--I have a few that I know are good. Even in those places I describe what I want rather than rely on a definition.)

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    Re: Crazy short mac foam out of control

    pardon my ignorance how should it be?

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    Re: Crazy short mac foam out of control

    Sounds like a Starbucks short macchiato, Obscura...

    If a noob was looking it up on google, the first few explanations simply state - shot of coffee with a dollop of milk foam, NO steamed milk...

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    Re: Crazy short mac foam out of control

    Just front them and ask.

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    Re: Crazy short mac foam out of control

    This is a snip of a local description

    Whats Macchiato ?

    Espresso Macchiato . [mock-e-AH-toe] Some say this is espresso with about a half inch of milk foam (no steamed milk). But some strongly disagree. One enthusiast writes of the above definition: "Surely not. Macchiato (lit. "marked") is a dash of milk or cream in espresso." Another writes "the chap who serves me espresso, and who has been roasting coffee and selling and leasing machines for several years ....tells me that Macchiato is made with half-and-half."

    From Australia: " Macchiato has two variations here - long and short. Short is an espresso (in the mandatory micro cup) with just a dash of milk. This is the default at most trad. Italian mum & dad restaurants. Long is a _glass_ with two shots of espresso, and small amount of milk. The peak of macchiato making is to pour the milk in so slowly that it never makes it to the bottom of the glass. The resulting layered drink has been known to inspire fear in the novice drinker. This the default at coffee houses. Both of these _seemed_ to have started out in small glasses (about 175ml) but the fashionable have demanded ever larger glasses - of about 375ml.

    Starbucks defines Espresso Macchiato as "1 shot of espresso in a demitasse [topped with] a small dollop of foamed milk.

    Finally, this somewhat similar variation: "The coffeehouse I work at serves as Macchiato, a layered cappuccino. 1/3 steamed milk, 1/3 espresso sitting on that (not mixed), and finally 1/3 milk foam. When served in glass, it is quite elegant, and when drunk, the foam insulates the coffee for temperatures sake, the espresso hits the palate first, and finally, the slightly sweet steamed milk washes the palate. a fine beverage, though perhaps not the standard."

    In the Australian definition! Is this the making style you expected

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    Re: Crazy short mac foam out of control

    Hey guys...

    does there happen to be a way to drink macchiatos? By that I mean... since there is foam, then a layer of milk then a shot, should it be mixed and then drunk... or maybe you can just drink it with the layering etc?

    Ive never really known how it works..., I just mix it though...

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    Re: Crazy short mac foam out of control

    I mainly order macs at a cafe and I just drink it. No ones come up and tapped my shoulder and said "youre drinking it the wrong way".

    Try it straight up and try it mixed and see if you can tell any difference.

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    Re: Crazy short mac foam out of control

    Theres been great discussion over the definition of a Macc both previously and above, so not an easy one to answer. *Using my personal interpretation (1 shot of expresso, a single dollop of foam and the wee dribble of milk that comes along with that dollop of foam) I think the how you drink question is one of the best things about a Macc. *The more you swirl the more you tone down/dilute the shot so you get to control the end product. *Its the coffee equivalent of dressing on the side! *Well...almost *:P

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    Re: Crazy short mac foam out of control

    Quote Originally Posted by 596C757F2B2A1C0 link=1252218560/8#8 date=1254710880
    *Its the coffee equivalent of dressing on the side! *Well...almost *:P
    haha, well yeh i guess so... ill be sure to test the "with" and "without" dressing approach...

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    Re: Crazy short mac foam out of control

    Every short macc Ive made for the past 5 years, has been a dash of well textured milk in an espresso, but there will always certainly be different methods everywhere. =P



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