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    My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

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    So my wife was telling me how "the coffees I make dont taste as nice as when you make them". So to get to the bottom of the issue, I asked her to make a coffee for me..

    Anyhow, she started with pouring the milk in the cup itself (wtf??) and heated the milk - anyhow beside the fact it ended up looking like a total mess the taste was really bitter and I actually couldnt drink it, which surprised me as the beans are nice and fresh.

    So I made a cup using the same beans & milk but with proper milk texturing (and showed her to right way to texture while I was at it) - tasted it and it tasted soo much better, alot sweater..

    I never realised it was soo important to get the milk right - just thought id share my epiphany..

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    Yep. On a recent trip to the USA we could not get great coffee anywhere we went. Most of the espresso was poured ok but there was no love in the milk texturing. they stick the wand in and heat the milk. And it didnt taste right. I even questioned one girl if she knew the correct process and she said yes I do but I was a little distracted this time. I dont think I got microfoam once in 3 weeks.
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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    Yeah, once the milk gets too hot the sweetness disappears and the coffee becomes bitter and burnt tasting.

    The difference, on my small piccolo lattés can be as little as one or two seconds of steaming!

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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    Having well textured fresh milk and heated to the right temperature is also critical if you want to pour decent latte art.

    I agree it also affects the taste of coffee in a big way.

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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    My texturing has gone right off the last few weeks, starting to think its the milk??

    dont know if any other Sydneysiders have noticed a milk change ??
    i normally use the woolies brand (not the cheapest one)
    trying dairy farmers later today.....

    i find franklins is rubbish

    i know its a bit OT but the brand / type of milk itself plays a role in the texturing to

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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    Im the same. Been using ALDI, tried Coles - same problem.

    However, a bad workman can blame his tools..... ;)

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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    Quote Originally Posted by 3539303D3D34580 link=1265679884/4#4 date=1265754032
    My texturing has gone right off the last few weeks, starting to think its the milk??

    dont know if any other Sydneysiders have noticed a milk change ??
    i normally use the woolies brand (not the cheapest one)
    trying dairy farmers later today.....
    Quote Originally Posted by 3A323D3B33696C580 link=1265679884/5#5 date=1265754468
    Im the same. Been using ALDI, tried Coles - same problem.

    However, a bad workman can blame his tools..... *
    The milk gets a bit odd this time of year (every year) and is difficult to microfoam :(

    I believe it has something to do with a change in what the cows are fed :-/

    Warren.

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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    Yeah...I think you guys are probably just blaming your tools...

    If youre going to notice any change in milk due to cows feed changing, youre about three months too early... ;) And especially this year as the country has had a pretty good amount of rain and feed has been consistently good for a while now...I know because I live in the country and have seen first hand the feed on the ground that weve now had for over two months...

    And as has been discussed before, I think that the way milk is processed these days, little, if any effect of feed is in the end product any longer.

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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    My texturing went off for a few weeks last year.

    The harder I tried the worse it got.

    Just a slump I reckon.

    All came good by itself.

    I use different milks; DF, Aldi, whatever.
    When Im texturing well it doesnt matter what the milk is.


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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    Quote Originally Posted by 6458455E545542575F54300 link=1265679884/8#8 date=1265800281
    My texturing went off for a few weeks last year.

    The harder I tried the worse it got.

    Just a slump I reckon.

    All came good by itself.

    I use different milks; DF, Aldi, whatever.
    When Im texturing well it doesnt matter what the milk is.
    I concur...

    I have bouts of OFF and ON ;D

    Only time the milk matters, is if my wife spots me using full cream; instead of her Physical :D ;D ;) 2% fat... Then its trouble, regardless of the texture ::)

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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    Im with you too...I know its me, not the milk.

    Im still learning - finally did a barista course after two years of self-frothing (hmmm....sounds vaguely like something my mother told me would send me blind...but I digress...) and discovered, to my horror, how poor my technique really was! :o

    Sadly, while knowledge is power, its no substitute for skill, and I think that will only come with practice.

    The best single piece of simple advice I have read here, (and was told by the guy who ran the course and watched me fail miserably on the first half dozen frothing attempts! >:(), was to relax.

    And I notice, every time the milk looks like frothing over, or squeals at me...my arm is tense all the way through the shoulder.

    So Im trying to relax...seems to help me...




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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    Quote Originally Posted by 7E5A505B70330 link=1265679884/10#10 date=1265804504
    And I notice, every time the milk looks like frothing over, or squeals at me...my arm is tense all the way through the shoulder.

    So Im trying to relax...seems to help me...
    I have said this on many occasions
    Relax & let the steam do the job

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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    The best single piece of simple advice I have read here

    Yep KK - it was you!

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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    Yes I always have slumps along the way. I get slightly better, slightly better, much worse... and so on.
    When asked by my parents about what is going on when they have been microfoaming really well and suddenly things turn wrong for a while...I like to answer that it is the gods looking upon you unfavourably or a certain shift in the phase of the universe...but dont worry it will return to normal soon.

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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    Quote Originally Posted by 6C606964646D010 link=1265679884/4#4 date=1265754032
    My texturing has gone right off the last few weeks, starting to think its the milk??

    dont know if any other Sydneysiders have noticed a milk change ??
    i normally use the woolies brand (not the cheapest one)
    trying dairy farmers later today.....
    well the dairy farmers brand seemed to improve my milk a lot, either that or i was having a good day...... got to go get some more milk so might get one of each and use them back to back. will try for same date as well


    Quote Originally Posted by 636B64626A3035010 link=1265679884/5#5 date=1265754468
    However, a bad workman can blame his tools..... *;)

    who you calling a bad man ? ;D

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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    My milk mojo is back [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

    I dont know what changed, but its back :)

    Warren.

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    Re: My realisation: proper milk texturing is really important..

    My milk texturing is like my golf: try too hard and it ends up crap, >:(relax and things turn out much better :). I try to apply the old cliche of concentrate on the action and the result will follow rather than the other way around. Now for more practise and improved results in both areas



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