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    Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

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    I am a recent convert from the Giotto to the Junior. I could get reasonable microfoam out of the Giotto probably because it all happened at a steady pace. The Junior is a steaming beast!! In a matter of moments I have piles of foam, mostly unpourable stiff peaks. I am using the stock 4 hole tip for enough milk for 2-3 drinks. Would a two hole tip give me better control. If so,which tips are interchangeable with the Junior wand?

    Any help much appreciated.

    David

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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    David,

    You CAN master the 4 hole and make perfect microfoam (I had the same problem with the LC when I first got it).... I can now texture enough milk for just one drink with the four hole..... just takes a bit of practice!

    The CoffeeParts two hole will fit..... but the holes are a bit too small.... you will need to run a small drill down them to open them up or it will take forever to texture your milk....

    But if I was you Id persevere with the 4 hole - once mastered it is magic!!!!!

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    Thanks JavaB. I will persist. Meanwhile the big stiff foamy stuff makes good babycinos for the kids :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaB link=1211366761/0#1 date=1211367328
    David,

    You CAN master the 4 hole and make perfect microfoam (I had the same problem with the LC when I first got it).... I can now texture enough milk for just one drink with the four hole..... just takes a bit of practice!

    The CoffeeParts two hole will fit..... but the holes are a bit too small.... you will need to run a small drill down them to open them up or it will take forever to texture your milk....

    But if I was you Id persevere with the 4 hole - once mastered it is magic!!!!!
    Which 4 hole tip are you referring to? I understand that there were a few different designs of Cimbali steam tips over the years. Which do you have? Could you post a photo please?


    Bill

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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    I too have a Giotto (2 hole standard) and a NS Oscar (4 hole standard) and have tried a regular coffeeparts 2 hole, a modified drilled out 2 hole, a coffeeparts 4-hole and a 4-hole with 2 holes plugged with toothpicks. F

    For the me best results came from the regular 2 hole, but VERY slow. I eventually gave up on it.

    I now use the coffeeparts 4 hole, with 2 holes plugged everyday and it works a treat.

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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill link=1211366761/0#3 date=1211367871

    Which 4 hole tip are you referring to? I understand that there were a few different designs of Cimbali steam tips over the years. Which do you have? Could you post a photo please?


    Bill
    I dont have a closeup photo of the tip. The Junior is new if that helps.

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouse tail link=1211366761/0#5 date=1211368939
    I dont have a closeup photo of the tip. The Junior is new if that helps.

    David
    Sorry, I was actually asking JavaB what tip he has.

    David, I saw a photo of your machine in a different thread, and it appears to have the same steam arm and tip as my Faema E98. Does it look like the one below?




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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    and side view:




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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    Similar shape but it has a central hole and three holes around the edge of the tip.

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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill link=1211366761/0#6 date=1211375499

    Sorry, I was actually asking JavaB what tip he has.
    Bill,

    I thought you were asking Mouse tail as well....

    Mine is the "old style" 4 holes equi spaced around the outer edge of the almost flat base.... holes are angled outward at about 15 degrees.

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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    Quote Originally Posted by Mouse tail link=1211366761/0#8 date=1211378551
    Similar shape but it has a central hole and three holes around the edge of the tip.
    Oh, so yours is the one on the right-hand side below? From what Ive read, that tip is supposed to be the best one to use. Id like to get one of those tips to try out on my own machine. You dont know where I could get one from, do you? It appears to have much smaller holes than my tip has.




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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    It seems Ive got the best tip, and here I was complaining about my lack of steaming control :-)

    The tip came with the machine. Can I mention suppliers who are not sponsors? If not, I could send you a PM

    David

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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    I have 4-hole tips like the one on the right in post #10 on my Cimbali. It took a bit of getting used too but as JavaB has already said you can use them even for small quantities once you get used to them and with a properly sized jug. Ive found that for me personally they work best when doing a donut roil rather than a whirlpool style one.


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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    Does the end of the Cimbali steam arm that has the tip on the right-hand side in the photo above look like this?




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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    I am new to this site and noticed this subject. *Its exactly what I need help with. *I have upgraded from a home machine to an older Cimbali Jr. *I was OK with creating micro foam on the home machine, and now on the CJ, I am terrible. *It is a beast!

    The long and short of it is....I get no micro foam. *The tip has four holes, one in the middle, and three around the edge.

    How much should I open the steam valve?

    Where should i position the tip?

    I want to steam enough for one drink.

    HELP!

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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    Make sure all steam holes are working but release pressure about 3-5 seconds before starting (donít block any up as it alters the steam angles)

    To steam milk
    Turn steam knob from 3/4 to full steam strength from the get go

    Use small 300ml jug for 1 cup and 600ml jug for 2 cup


    To get best results half fill a 300ml jug with milk and then plunge the steam wand just below the surface in the centre of the jug, allow the whirlpool motion to naturally take place.
    Relax your wrists, when you see the milk stretch move the jug to the side until it touches the wand at this point you can tilt the jug to continue swirl or leave it at 90 deg (depending on the strength of your steam)
    Stop the steam when milk has doubled in volume

    Expect a 2 to 3 week practice period before you are any good at it


    Koffee Kosmo

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    Re: Tips for tips for the La Cimbali Junior

    Hi jthiessen,

    And welcome to CS

    I have a Faema equivalent of the La Cimbali Junior, and I agree with KK above.

    In particular keep trying, It sure froths quickly and takes a while to get the hang of it. At first I thought no way can I froth a small jug... but after a while its fairly easy.

    Some pointers for how I do it, not necessarily best, I clear the wand of hot water first. I also tilt my wand at about a 30 degree angle.

    I find it is hard to keep the tip at the appropriate depth to get the swirling of the milk without too much air and bubbles. But trial and error you will find the spot.

    Good luck

    Robert



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