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    Two Hole Tip for 1 cup >_<

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Within four months of coffeesnobing, Ive move from Gaggia Classic -&gt; PIDd Silvia -&gt; Diadema Junior Extra

    Ive always making 1 double shot + milk into a 220ml ACF cup. (Yes I know the DJE is overkill in anyway just for that cup, but we are in this forum for that particular reason 8-) )

    Now the DJE spots a 2 hole tip, much dryer steam, not too sure about pressure but the PID Silvia seems to spurt out more stuff from the single tip than the DJE, but its much wetter.

    Ive been able to make ok milk to get rosetta done with the Gaggia and Silvia, but with the DJE its almost near impossible!

    With a two hole tip, is it on contrary not surfing near the surface of the milk, but rather submerge it into the milk for the whole part of the tip? Because when i try to surf, it just create a bubble party in the jug and before any swirling effect is done, its too hot to do anything about it.

    I need more info and better with videos (did a search on Youtube but most machine have 4 tips or single...)
    Thanks ! ;)

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    Re: Two Hole Tip for 1 cup >_<

    Hi Hide :D I share some that history.

    What I find with my Giotto is this. You want to rest the wand in the spout of the pitcher
    so that the steaming wnad is angled to the centre of th jug.

    At first open steam wand just slightly for about .5second and then open it up. Not so much so that you shoot the milk out the jug; but at a level that it starts to swirl. You dont want to keep adjusting it either, you must try and open the steam to the required level and not keep playing with it.

    As the volume increases lower the jug by pulling away from the steam arm, which in turn will raise the wand. Once the volume has increased to say just above the bottom of the spout move the tip deeper in the milk until the tip is submerged and move the wand to the edge of the jug so that the milk spis faster. Once up to temp close wand off beneath the milk. Tap, swirl and pour.

    Goodluck! 8-)


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    Re: Two Hole Tip for 1 cup >_<

    Finally got to make a nice swirl, but still kinda screwed up the starting creating bubble fest, but all bubbles died down after successful swirling.

    Aiming centre + tilt towards you seems to be right on track. Gotta wait till tomorrow morning for another cup/practise !

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    Re: Two Hole Tip for 1 cup >_<

    Ive never used a Diadema Junior Extra but from reading the stats on it I would just say that you just have to get used to a machine that has a lot more steam pour than a Silvia.

    Espresso Company Australia has a great video on different aspects of making coffee and there is one on milk steaming you might like to look at.

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    Re: Two Hole Tip for 1 cup >_<

    When I had a DJE (and now with the Izzo) I just wind a bit of copper or brass wire through the holes in the tip to slow things down a bit.*

    My double ristretto latte goes into a 90 ml cup, so Im steaming next to nothing, and I like it to take more than 5 seconds and to not blow the milk all over the kitchen. :o

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    Re: Two Hole Tip for 1 cup >_<

    Quote Originally Posted by 6A5F484A7A425F404C41492D0 link=1316739665/4#4 date=1316860364
    My double ristretto latte goes into a 90 ml cup, so Im steaming next to nothing, and I like it to take more than 5 seconds and to not blow the milk all over the kitchen.

    Got a good mental image of that :D

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    Re: Two Hole Tip for 1 cup >_<

    I soldered 2 of the holes in my Boema steam nozzle as most of the time I am making 1 or 2 cups of coffee. It means it takes a little longer but get super-micro foam.

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    Re: Two Hole Tip for 1 cup >_<

    Considering milk is $3 for 3L, Id say buy yourself some and use the whole lot for practice one afternoon. Dont pull shots, just practice our milk.
    I move between an S26 at home and a 2gr Carimali in the cafe, the S26 is by no means a steam slouch but Ive lowered the boiler pressure a tad to reduce cooling flushes. Every time I go back to the Carimali it takes me a jug or two to recalibrate myself. The Carimali has a 4 hole tip, I only steam enough for 1 drink in a 400ml jug.
    It does take practice but youll get it in the end and enjoy 10 second milk!

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    Re: Two Hole Tip for 1 cup >_<

    So yeah, keep practicing, read all the threads watch all the vids, but in the end you will tweak your action to suit your machine.
    Something Ive not tested, but others can comment - if you have more than one steam hole, even if you have the same machine as someone else, your steam
    holes may not be pointing in the same direction, surely this will make a small amount of milk act quite differently in the jug, so you would need to modify your action to make the steam from you machine work the way you want it to.

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    Re: Two Hole Tip for 1 cup >_<

    Wow - as a Noob, the Espresso Company Australia videos are a great start.

    At age 46 I had my first ever coffee (except for one or two cups of instant) from a friend, and now Im hooked. :)

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    Scottie didnt win the barista champs for nothing :D



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