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    Milk jugs

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    Is there much of a difference between the ~$18 rattleware and ~$12 incasa milk jugs for steaming and pouring? Does one have a better/sharper spout than the other?
    Or is it much of a muchness?
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    Go rattleware... I have both the rattleware ones but I also have a 600ml incasa one. The incasa one is thin and I dont use it! If you want to buy it off me you can! But I would def pay the few dollars more and get the rattleware jugs!

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    Re: Milk jugs

    Heres a vid with the Espro jugs, very easy to create a whirlpool effect.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sI3whEENGk&feature=youtube_gdata

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    Re: Milk jugs

    from personal experience its a matter of getting used to any jug? (correct me if im wrong someone?)

    ive only owned an incasa jug and never felt the need to change since ive been able to get the results im looking for when my technique + milked used is right. maybe the shapes of these jugs help with making it easier? judging from the shapes of the bases of both of the jugs.... i dont think theres going to be much of a difference.
    i cant say much pour-wise except for the fact that the flow looks the same as all the videos ive been pouring over 8-) and all i need to do is work on technique

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    The standard 600ml incasa jug has been used by dozens of Aussie competition baristas.* Cheap enough to take a pile of brand new ones to comp (no scratches egro high tech scores) and has a good spout design for pouring.

    However, the 300ml rattleware is the jug we use at home and at the Snobbery more than any other.* Its a great size for a 220ml latte and as a bonus my milk wastage is nearly zero now.

    I tend to always use the 300ml rattleware, double shot, milk for one coffee then double shot, milk for one coffee instead of double shot, double shot, milk for 2 coffees.

    I guess it depends on how many coffees you are doing milk for and what your work flow is.

    ...although at the low retail prices asked for them I would just buy both, see which fits your "style" and then gift the one you dont use.
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    Agreed Andy

    Most jugs do the job, its just a matter of personal preference and tuning your technique your equipment (all of the equipment from grinder, machine, roaster, basket, milk type, jug, cup............ you get the idea)

    I have 600 and 400 incasa jugs and wouldnt chance them.

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    Re: Milk jugs

    Quote Originally Posted by 123D372A530 link=1335140948/4#4 date=1337071088
    The standard 600ml incasa jug has been used by dozens of Aussie competition baristas
    I use cheap incasa jugs myself, they seem to do the job well enough, I dont have any issue with getting a whirlpool going on the Silvia, and I get decent microfoam, my pouring skills still suck but Im getting there.

    But like Andy says, theyre cheap as dirt why not grab a few different ones and just see what works?

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    I find it strange that Im able to froth better in the 600ml rattleware jugs than the 300ml ones even though Im practically doing the same thing. Anyone have any advice? Currently using an em6910, I wonder if its because the steam from this machine is particularly unforgiving :-/.
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    Re: Milk jugs

    Another question, I am looking to get a new jug maybe 350 ml. I usually make only one coffee at a time.

    I was also wondering about the jug sizes. I have a 550 ml jug that came with the espresso machine I have. I find that when I am frothing the milk when I have the milk spinning and tilt the jug that the milk is often close to overflowing. I dont think I am using too much milk in the jug.

    Would a 350 ml jug be big enough.


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    Are you filling it to the level of the bottom portion of the spout? If so, youre tilting quite a fair bit just to texture the milk :o, or it could be that youre stretching the milk for too long resulting in stiffer and much more microfoam than required. Have you tried weighing the amount of milk you need?

    If you could provide details of the machine youre using or some photos maybe fellow CSers with a similar setup could help you out :).

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    Re: Milk jugs

    Hey guys, I just ordered a Lelit combi with PID. Super excited. Only thing is, I was planning on using the 500ml stainless steel milk jug I have (came with a Sunbeam many years ago) but I dont know if it will be big enough to do two coffees at once. If I have to do one after the other its going to take a lot longer.

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    Re: Milk jugs

    Quote Originally Posted by 2131222D292A26430 link=1335140948/10#10 date=1339026094
    ...I dont know if it will be big enough to do two coffees at once. If I have to do one after the other its going to take a lot longer.
    Depends on how big your cups are :)

    I find a 500ml jug is just about perfect for 2 latte glasses (~220ml) but then I only ever pour double shots, for larger mugs however youre pushing it.

    That said, my partner is Vegan so making coffee for both of us involves 2 steaming operations regardless, takes me 6-7mins to knock out the two coffees on the Silvia, steaming is about 3 mins of that.

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    Re: Milk jugs

    Thanks jbrewster, looks like we might be drinking lattes instead of cappuccinos :)

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    Cappuccinos are smaller than lattes, so you should set.

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    O.k cool, I cant wait :)

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    Well Ive got my new machine up and running. Very happy overall. My 500ml jug is o.k for a couple of lattes but I need more room to froth for a couple of cappuccinos.

    Wondering if any old stainless steel jug off ebay would do the job, or is it worth paying extra for a more expensive one.....

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    Has anyone tried the Espro toroid? I've got some basing 600 and 300 ml they're doing the job or now. Be been wondering if the Espro old move my micro foam. I'm using a silvia v3.

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    The size of the jug makes a difference simply because the larger volume of milk takes longer to get up to temperature and thus, you are generating more micro-foam in the milk.

    My personal preference is a Piccolo which uses only a 100ml cup and really prefer a creamy milk texture but it requires a 500ml of milk in order to have enough time to make quality micro-foam.

    The construction of the jug also makes a difference in the rate at which the milk comes up to temperature.

    The Rocket/Motta style milk jugs (pictured below on the left) are made of a heavier gauge stainless than the Incasa jug (on the right).

    They also have a much sharper spout.




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