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    Coffee Heresy: Silvia wand on the Cremina

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    I love my Cremina but I just cant get along with the 4 hole steam tip. Its just no good for steaming the tiny quantities of milk that I steam and I cant see the point in steaming 300mls of milk to drink 1/3 of that. The HB site also had a thread with another Cremina owner with the same problem. Small quantities of milk end up too hot, thin with soap bubbles on top. I stuck with it for over a month, fiddling around with different jugs, milk quantites etc. But I just couldnt acheive the super-aerated, silky milk I used to get on the Gaggia. It was thick and glossy and most importantly the texture was uniform throughout the coffee.

    Today, I pulled the Cremina wand off and just decided to see if the Silvia wand on my Gaggia fit. It does! It looks a little odd and of course the wand is on backwards because of the position of the steam wand on the Cremina (LHS instead of RHS). But you know what? It works like the devil. I had to experiement a little to get the now weird angle working for me but today I once again had my mousse-like coffee that I had been missing so much. OMG! I love this, even if it looks completely naff. Just wish theyd put a single hole tip on the Cremina.* :(

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    Re: Coffee Heresy: Silvia wand on the Cremina

    Cant you get an aftermarket single holed steam tip?

    Or rather, dont any of the aftermarket tips fit?

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    Re: Coffee Heresy: Silvia wand on the Cremina

    The steam tip on the Cremina is cast, not the screw in type. So you have to replace the whole wand. I dont know if there is another steam wand apart from the Silvia that would fit. I havent looked yet, but since I already had the Silvia wand just decided to experiment. A quick search of the net reveals that a lot of Cremina owners simply block 3 holes with toothpicks, I didnt like the idea of swallowing a bit of toothpick in my coffee though should a plug come loose.* :o

    HB does have a Cremina with the shorter articulated Silva arm on it as well as Maximatics. There was a bit of fiddling and modding involved though. I think for my new wand, a gentle bend of the wand should fix the angle problem. The length of the wand is actually great as I dont have to have the jug up flush against the group head to steam anymore. I just wish it was more aesthetically pleasing. The thin tubing looks a bit stupid on the Cremina. But taste and mouthfeel is what matters right?* 8-)

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    Re: Coffee Heresy: Silvia wand on the Cremina

    Thinking about it. I could modify the original steam wand, by drilling a hole into the centre of the tip, removing the chrome and plugging the existing holes with brass wire soldered into them. I think its brass, although I havent really looked at it properly yet. If its cast brass that wouldnt be difficult to do at all.

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    Re: Coffee Heresy: Silvia wand on the Cremina

    http://www.orphanespresso.com/Steam-Wand-with-Removable-Tip_p_4151.html

    I got the new wand from OE with removable tip and fit it a lot easier to master the steaming on my Cremina $66 plus freight but well spent.

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    Re: Coffee Heresy: Silvia wand on the Cremina

    Thanks for that. Its still a 4 hole tip though. Is there a single hole tip I could replace it with? I have to admit, I just hate 4 hole tips and am not interested in having one. I know the holes are slightly smaller but I still dont want it. And if I still have to go and purchase another tip for it, it gets expensive.

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    Re: Coffee Heresy: Silvia wand on the Cremina

    Quote Originally Posted by 646B667566616B68070 link=1336435149/0#0 date=1336435149
    The HB site also had a thread with another Cremina owner with the same problem
    Is this the thread you are talking about?

    http://www.home-barista.com/levers/steaming-milk-on-olympia-cremina-t2087.html[s][/s]

    Interestingly I contributed to that thread because I was having similar problems to you when I first got my Cremina 67 way back then. Rest assured, just follow the advice of the OP in that thread (especially what he says on p. 2) and youlll eventually be able to get great micro-foam.

    After owning my Cremina for a couple of weeks I had mastered the steam thing. Now, ironically, Ive got the same problem with my Cremina 2011. The newie has a slightly bigger steam wand, a different type of 4 hole tip, and the steam valve is pretty sticky and unforegiving (due to its newness). It goes from a trickle to a blast in a micro-turn making it hard to control. I am, however, getting the hang of it and can now just about reproduce the results I* get with the Cremina 67.

    So the moral of all this be patient and practice. Part of the problem is moving from the Gaggia to another machine. You simply have to change technique. I even have to do this when moving from one Cremina to another. But whatever you do dont do the Silvia steam wand modification! Yes, the Silvia tip is good for micro-foam (I once had a Silvia) but youll turn your machine into a Frankencremina.

    Maybe one thing you could consider if the issue persists is to turn your pressurestat down to a level which makes steaming easier but high enough to keep the machine up to temp. I did this with both my machines; my 67 runs between .6 and .8 bar; the 2011 a tad higher.



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