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    Need help on steaming with 2 hole tip. VBM.

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    Ok, so I just upgrade from a Silvia to a VBM junior which has a 2 hole steam tip and I really need some tips on steaming with 2 holes. I feel out of control; large bubbles and no swirling action in the pitcher.

    It strange having steam going in opposing directions.

    The VBM heats milk way faster than he Silvia so the process is also over much quicker.

    Any tips are greatly appreciated.

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    Hi nabsie,

    Searching around here and other coffee forums will give you lots of ideas to try. I plugged one of the holes with a toothpick and got used to the speed that way. The holes in mine are in a vertical plane and I found plugging the bottom one worked best. Probably the easiest way to learn is buy a few liters of milk and get someone who knows what they're doing to help you out for a few hours. Scott Rao's "water and a drop of detergent" technique is good too (see U-tube). Also, start with a medium-sized jug (around 500 mL) and make sure it is filled to the bottom of the spout. You can steam small amounts, but not in big jugs where there is only a shallow depth of milk. Good luck.

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    VBM Jnr is notoriously difficult to steam with. Having said that - it's just a matter of getting the right technique.

    The main reason it's different is the unusual angle of the two holes - angled at about 135 degrees apart almost horizontal/sideways!!

    What works for me is small jug 300-400ml filled to bottom of spout. Steam wand almost vertical at back of jug. Open steam slightly to break surface then ride the tumbling whirlpool and dunk slightly and turn off steam just above 50 degrees coz it will keep rising a bit after you have turned off - especially coz it's such a small volume.

    You can try the same technique with a 600ml jug if u like - I prefer the smaller jugs it is paradoxically easier than a big jug for some reason.

    Just keep practicing. I still ocasionally stuff up because it has a very small sweet spot.

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    Thanks for the suggestions. Not too keen on blocking the holes so I will give the water and detergent trick a go for some practice.

    I did some other looking around for techniques also and some of these seem to of helped. Position and angle seems to be the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nabsie View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions. Not too keen on blocking the holes so I will give the water and detergent trick a go for some practice.

    I did some other looking around for techniques also and some of these seem to of helped. Position and angle seems to be the key.
    Hi nabsie, what position and angle of the steam wand did you find best? I also have a 2 hole steam wand tip and am having trouble getting good mcrofoam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nabsie View Post
    Ok, so I just upgrade from a Silvia to a VBM junior which has a 2 hole steam tip and I really need some tips on steaming with 2 holes. I feel out of control; large bubbles and no swirling action in the pitcher.

    It strange having steam going in opposing directions.

    The VBM heats milk way faster than he Silvia so the process is also over much quicker.

    Any tips are greatly appreciated.
    Have a read of this method I developed and comment on the thread if required
    Its has been successful with all types of steam tips
    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/milk-froth...oam-print.html

    I also just posted an update and solution for a problem that crops up with out of season milk

    KK

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    Hey, sorry guy's I've not checked back on this thread for a while.

    Now having owned my VBM Junior 6 months I feel much more confident with the steaming.

    13bob - I use Koffee_Kosmo method as outlined above (thanks KK). Originally I wasn't doing the slide to one side thing as outlined in the KK method but I do now and find it really helps to get the milk tumbling and remove and bubbles.

    Just be sure not to let it suck too much air at the start otherwise the milk becomes very stiff.



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