Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Texturing with a Rancilio S26 4 hole steam tip

  1. #1
    Senior Member NakiChap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Perth , WA , Australia
    Posts
    352

    Texturing with a Rancilio S26 4 hole steam tip

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Hello i am looking for advice or tips on texturing with a 4 hole tip on my Rancilio S26
    I generally only do approx 250ml of milk at a time
    Would the best option be to replace the tip with a 2 hole and just keep the four hole for larger amounts of milk when needed.

  2. #2
    Senior Member Koffee_Kosmo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    5,113
    Quote Originally Posted by Cadan View Post
    Hello i am looking for advice or tips on texturing with a 4 hole tip on my Rancilio S26
    I generally only do approx 250ml of milk at a time
    Would the best option be to replace the tip with a 2 hole and just keep the four hole for larger amounts of milk when needed.
    First some info and history on your machine
    When was the last time you cleaned the steam wand ( is it blocked with debris or sucked up milk )
    How strong is the steam
    How dry is the steam
    Does your steam strength drop off quickly ?

    Is your technique a case of not enough practice on a new machine

    I will link a CS members video on the microfoam method I developed



    KK

  3. #3
    Senior Member NakiChap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Perth , WA , Australia
    Posts
    352
    Ok just got this machine up and running
    I have stripped it down descaled the boiler and element and all the pipe work
    It is a case of new machine needing new technique I think
    I previously had a minore and silvia and got great micro foam on those
    I have plenty of steam pressure I just think the four tip is better for heating large jugs of milk rather than creating good micro foam
    I swapped the four hole tip with the silvia single hole this morning and that gave me much more control texturing smaller volumes
    The four hole tip heats small volumes in about 4 seconds, to fast for me.

  4. #4
    Senior Member Koffee_Kosmo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    5,113
    Quote Originally Posted by Cadan View Post
    Ok just got this machine up and running
    I have stripped it down descaled the boiler and element and all the pipe work
    It is a case of new machine needing new technique I think
    I previously had a minore and silvia and got great micro foam on those
    I have plenty of steam pressure I just think the four tip is better for heating large jugs of milk rather than creating good micro foam
    I swapped the four hole tip with the silvia single hole this morning and that gave me much more control texturing smaller volumes
    The four hole tip heats small volumes in about 4 seconds, to fast for me.
    Picture it in car terms
    Silvia is a 3 cyl
    Prosumer machines are 6 cyl & 8 cyl
    Big cafe machines are 8 cyl and 12 cyl

    Ranchilio S26 falls close to the V8 catogory

    Yes the steaming process happens quicker and that's normal for a large boiler machine
    The end result is the same - just the time frame is much quicker

    KK

  5. #5
    Senior Member saoye's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Adelaide
    Posts
    1,006
    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee_Kosmo View Post
    Picture it in car terms
    Silvia is a 3 cyl
    Prosumer machines are 6 cyl & 8 cyl
    Big cafe machines are 8 cyl and 12 cyl

    Ranchilio S26 falls close to the V8 catogory

    Yes the steaming process happens quicker and that's normal for a large boiler machine
    The end result is the same - just the time frame is much quicker

    KK
    Exactly! Same technique applies.
    Here in contrast is a video I did with the Faema Compact E98 S1. What a beast for steam power (4 hole steam tip)! Look at the difference in time to steam as well as the fact that I did not need to dip the wand in to further heat the milk. I do recommend getting a two hole unless you are steaming a litre at a time. This was milk for 1. I did get the hang of it just as I sold it...but wife prefers the look of the Giotto so I sold the Faema and kept the Giotto. Ignore the fast espresso extraction...I didn't quite get the dose and grind right.

    Latte with the Faema Compact E98 S1.WMV - YouTube

  6. #6
    Senior Member NakiChap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Perth , WA , Australia
    Posts
    352
    Ok thanks guys I will go with a two hole tip and that should suit my needs.

  7. #7
    Senior Member NakiChap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Perth , WA , Australia
    Posts
    352
    I fitted a two hole tip tonight and big improvement

    It has given me more control over the texturing but still very quick to heat the milk.

  8. #8
    Senior Member sidewayss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Perth, Western Australia.
    Posts
    1,434
    For 250 ml of milk, try a 400 ml jug. You may get a better whirlpool cycle and a greater distance from the bottom of the jug to the steam tip.

    If you're steaming with a 600ml or larger jug, you may encounter less control due to milk disturbance/turbulence from the shallow volume

    Try also stretching with a sip sip paper ripping sound and keep the tip just below the surface during the texturing phase to incorporate any bubbles spinning on the surface into the milk to be broken up into microfoam.

  9. #9
    Senior Member NakiChap's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Perth , WA , Australia
    Posts
    352
    Thanks for the tips I usually only texture about 200ml in my 380ml jugs by the time a have finished texturing the milk has stretched right to the rim

    The problem was the four hole tip that came with the machine ( see photo ), it must be suited to 1 litre jugs it was just letting out way to much steam, the two tip I have fitted works well and I can still texture larger amounts Quickly, say 400ml in my 800ml jug for a couple of large milk drinks,

    Been using it for a few weeks now and the coffee and texturing is great, love the S26 .
    Attached Images Attached Images

  10. #10
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    27
    thanks for the great information =)



Similar Threads

  1. Rancilio silvia V3 2-hole steam tip
    By will1508 in forum Milk Froth and Bubbles
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 23rd March 2013, 11:49 AM
  2. Problem with new Rancilio Silvia 2009 3 hole steam tip
    By cksaurus in forum Milk Froth and Bubbles
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 25th June 2009, 01:53 PM
  3. One hole steam tip?? for faema e98
    By Fairtrade in forum Milk Froth and Bubbles
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 3rd February 2008, 04:43 PM
  4. Rancilio three hole steam tip
    By dumiya in forum Milk Froth and Bubbles
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 31st January 2007, 12:53 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •