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    short steam wand problem

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    hi i was wondering if my short steam wand could create good microfoam for latte art, if not, what can i do to improve?
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    i think my steamer is too short when it froth it has annoying sound, at the end, i have so much foam on the bottom on my stainless steel cup
    how can i solve the problem, i really want to make latte art with this machine please
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    You didn't say what make and model your machine is.

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    @Thundergod - a De Longhi Prima Donna

    Does the wand rotate at all so you can get angle on the milk surface?
    Does the nozzle pull down at all? Maybe it sits up like that for pretty and you're meant to pull it out to use it?
    Is the annoying sound almost like it is screaming? Mine does that if I put the nozzle too deep. (Sunbeam EM6910, not an auto)

    If I had a $3000 machine I'd be getting the seller to show me how to use the steam. It looks like what I recall of a Saeco auto machine we had at a place I worked - it wasn't a steam wand it was where frothy milk came out.

    Maybe look for a flatter jug to steam in so the nozzle can get into the milk?

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    No, you wont be able to create latte art with this machine. The steam wand it has looks like a panarello wand. It introduces air into the steam without any user input. This makes it easy for the inexperienced to make froth. It's incapable of making much else other than big bubble foam, unless you really practice at it.

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    Assuming the steam wand has a air intake gap similar to a gaggia pannarello steam wand you can steam to a level of froth you want and then cover the air intake by dunking it below the milk to stop more air getting in and stop froth from generating.

    Still not the best for latte air, but it does reduce the amount of large dried up milk bubbles.

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    Unless you can remove the panarello then probably not. Even then would be tricky.

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    already tried

    yes i tried and its ok and i know how to froth milk with the tip
    thanks anyway


    the next thing to focus is the foam under the micro foam =.=
    got microfoam on top
    but quite much foam on the bottom of the pitcher -.-
    anyone could help with?


    on top of that, how can i increase the length of my steam wand tip? i mean DIY a extend one

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    See if you can tilt the jug slightly and at an angle and get it spinning.

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    Are you under warranty? If so, removing and replacing bits could affect that. Given it doesn't seem to be a current machine it should be possible to remove the wand that is there and source one from a different machine - get one with the dogleg in it and you can twist it outwards to get working room for making foam.

    But looking at your machine pic, you might have to remove it inside the case, so open it up and see how it connects. Post pics here if you need advice.

    Later models state the setup with the jug can be removed for normal steaming so maybe it's a simple disconnect and replace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omouth99 View Post
    the next thing to focus is the foam under the micro foam =.=
    got microfoam on top
    but quite much foam on the bottom of the pitcher -.-
    anyone could help with?
    Do you swirl your milk jug and tap it on the table to remove the big bubbles? I have recently seen a video where they suggest to let the milk sit on the table for a short while (say 20sec), let the big bubble rise, tap the jug to pop them, then swirl the jug till the milk comes up with a nice wet paint shine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by okitoki View Post
    Do you swirl your milk jug and tap it on the table to remove the big bubbles? I have recently seen a video where they suggest to let the milk sit on the table for a short while (say 20sec), let the big bubble rise, tap the jug to pop them, then swirl the jug till the milk comes up with a nice wet paint shine...
    i dont think it is a good idea because that would affect the temperature of the coffee if you had pour in the cup
    and now i found out that i have to froth the milk at 10-20 degree c after that just heat the milk until 60 degree c or 65 then i got fewer bubbles but still not good anyone could help with?

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    Dear 99
    Don't worry about the length of your wand.
    Some have long ones, some short.
    It's not the length of your wand but how you use it.

    Dorothy D.



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