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    Hi all, I'm thinking of getting the motta 250ml milk pitcher coz with the 500ml there's simply too much wastage when steaming for 1 or 2 piccolo. Anyone had any experience steaming with such small pitcher with a 3 tip steamer or a BDB?

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    I have a Motta 250 ml and my machine is an ECM Technika Profi IV... so plenty of steaming power. The pitcher is the right volume for a small flat white or a couple of piccolos, unfortunately I prefer using my Ilsa pitcher (300 ml) because I prefer its spout, I pour better art with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwantfm View Post
    I have a Motta 250 ml and my machine is an ECM Technika Profi IV... so plenty of steaming power. The pitcher is the right volume for a small flat white or a couple of piccolos, unfortunately I prefer using my Ilsa pitcher (300 ml) because I prefer its spout, I pour better art with it.
    Hi kwantfm

    +1. I second the spout thing. I have "modified" a couple of Incasa 300ml's to give them a lip on the spout. Now their art is fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by gusteaundarly View Post
    Hi all, I'm thinking of getting the motta 250ml milk pitcher coz with the 500ml there's simply too much wastage when steaming for 1 or 2 piccolo. Anyone had any experience steaming with such small pitcher with a 3 tip steamer or a BDB?
    Hi gusteaundarly

    Smaller jug: they can work as long as they pour well. Multiple nozzle holes: they can work too.

    I would suggest you check out the Espro Toroidal 350ml: it is actually designed to handle multiple nozzle holes. They also make a 550ml for those larger occasions. I have had top quality latte from them when using "problematic steaming machines". May be a better bet as some multiple nozzle hole machines may be cantankerous with smaller jugs. Around $60 if I recall, and I think a CS sponsor does them.

    Good thing to avoid the wastage, even if it may make life harder for a while.

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    Thanks for the input guys.

    Sounds like steaming small jug with relatively strong steam power is still manageable.

    Ordered an ilsa 300ml. Mainly coz I find the opening of motta 500ml a bit narrow, a smaller motta and espro would be too narrow for my liking.

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    I have 2 300mL. I don't use them much anymore since improving my technique on smaller volumes in the 600mL. But if you're doing one small (200mL) coffee, they're good. Just need to watch your technique as small volume of milk + large amount of steam can get messy quickly.

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    Thanks darkfalz. I'll be doing max 100ml (more than enough for 2 piccolos) in the 300ml jug to minimise wastage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gusteaundarly View Post
    Sounds like steaming small jug with relatively strong steam power is still manageable.
    I have steamed in a 25ml jug but do have to open the steam valve just a smidge.

    My day to day jug is 300ml.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod View Post
    I have steamed in a 25ml jug but do have to open the steam valve just a smidge.

    My day to day jug is 300ml.
    Great tip! Thanks. Lucky that bdb comes with variable steam valve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod View Post
    I have steamed in a 25ml jug but do have to open the steam valve just a smidge.
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    Isn't that called a spoon?

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    Spoon is too shallow.

    25ml is full to the brim so workable is only about 15ml.

    Good for a macchiato.

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    Ilsa 300ml arrived today. Much easier to steam 100ml milk in it than in a 500ml pitcher. Steel feels higher grade than Motta in hand. Heavier, harder, thicker. Will post pictures with both side by side for what it's worth when I get the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hildy View Post
    Isn't that called a spoon?
    Thimble.

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    Did somebody say small frothing pitcher?!?

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    That looks completely photoshopped, but I can't see how!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hildy View Post
    That looks completely photoshopped, but I can't see how!
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    I need one

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    It has the huge capacity of 14.4ml.


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    Can you actually froth in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hildy View Post
    Can you actually froth in it?
    In the pic that's a 4-hole steam tip on my 2-group Cimbali M28. As you can see the tip is almost as big as the jug. So no, I've never frothed with it. A friend did try though. It took about a millisecond to transfer the milk from the jug to the ceiling.


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    What you need is a microsteamer tip just for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javaphile View Post
    Did somebody say small frothing pitcher?!?

    P1100153 - resized.jpg
    N'awwww, it's so CUTE. *head asplodes*

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    Pictures comparing ilsa 300ml, motta 500ml, and pitcher that comes with breville bes920 (750ml according to breville site), side by side in that order left to right. take from them what you will.

    spout design, top diameter.


    spout design, handle design, height.


    base diameter & design.


    100ml surface to V distance.


    100ml surface to top of pitcher distance (overhead).

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    Great photos... thanks. I prefer the Ilsa spout. I've just purchased a small Alessi so will report in when I receive it.

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    Awesome pictures, thanks.

    I want to save milk, just might have to purchase one of these.........

    Thanks all

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldHolt View Post
    Awesome pictures, thanks.
    That'd be......Awesome pitchers! :- D

    Been using the 300ml and 750ml Ilsas for a couple of years, awesome jugs. ;-D

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    I think like most who mess with milk drinks, got lots of different jugs, it's funny how little variations on the shapes makes a difference, I do like the incasa 300ml I got though, oddly I have another brand that claims to be a 300ml and it was/is terrible, and is larger even though it's supposed to be the same size, one of the previous posters was right though, the incasa lip is not ideal for art, but it's great for being right size for single flat whites etc, and the shape of it textures well.

    That ilsa looks good to me, think I have seen that one at one of my local roasters, may buy one, looks like it's got a nicer spout on it.

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    Good to read these opinions on small milk pitchers. I've got a cheap 400ml pitcher at present, but find i'm always wasting milk and struggle to get any form of Latte art in the small cups i'm using. I think i'll have to stretch for an Ilsa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMan View Post
    I think i'll have to stretch for an Ilsa.
    No pun intended? ;-)
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    Unintentional punnage.

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    I found a 140 ml stainless steel jug on a well known auction site - perfect size for a piccolo. It's meant to be the little milk pitcher that you serve with tea, but does the job just fine for steaming purposes.



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