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    Trouble making art for 2 lattes from 1 pitcher

    Hi,

    I've recently moved from a Breville BES920 to a Profitec Pro700. The Breville created great microfoam, but took a while and didn't have enough power for more than 1 drink ~180ml of milk.
    Now the Pro700 has bags more steaming power and I can easily steam 250ml of milk in much less time. However I just can't seem to create latte art for 2 drinks from one pitcher. The first is sorta fine, and the second is too thin.

    My guess is I'm not folding the milk properly to create an homogeneous microfoam. I'm getting as good a whirlpool as I can, and not dropping the tip too far in.

    Any tips on improving this ? Do baristas generally steam in a larger pitcher then pour into 2 smaller ones ? Or simply better technique ? Or is it an issue of the milk beginning to separate during the time spent pouring the first drink ? Or likely, all of the above...?

    Currently I'm just steaming around 180ml and getting as good art as I can. Just means I have to do this twice if I want any semblance of art work on the top.

    I should add, I'm using a 600ml pitcher and either filling to about 15mm below the start of the spout for 1 drink, or the beginning of the spout for 2 drinks.

    Cheers
    Jamie
    Last edited by wilsonj; 3rd October 2018 at 08:37 AM.

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    A few tips
    You need to put more foam into the milk if you want to split the milk between 2 cups. As you stated the first is ok but the second is to thin.
    If you are pouring both from the same jug the first will take most of the foam (because if floats). A better option is to split the milk into 2 jugs. Eg steam milk allowing extra foam for 2 drinks, pour 2/3 of the milk into another hot jug (to keep the milk hot). Then pour some milk back into the first jug so there are equal amounts of milk in both jugs. This splits the foam more evenly between the 2 jugs. Pour the first cup, then the second. You might need to swirl the milk in the second jug if it has sat too long to incorporate the foam into the milk again

    Hope this helps.
    Post some pics so we can see how you are going
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    A few tips
    You need to put more foam into the milk if you want to split the milk between 2 cups. As you stated the first is ok but the second is to thin.
    If you are pouring both from the same jug the first will take most of the foam (because if floats). A better option is to split the milk into 2 jugs. Eg steam milk allowing extra foam for 2 drinks, pour 2/3 of the milk into another hot jug (to keep the milk hot). Then pour some milk back into the first jug so there are equal amounts of milk in both jugs. This splits the foam more evenly between the 2 jugs. Pour the first cup, then the second. You might need to swirl the milk in the second jug if it has sat too long to incorporate the foam into the milk again

    Hope this helps.
    Post some pics so we can see how you are going
    Hi Ronin,

    Thanks for your reply.

    What you are telling me is that I'm probably going to have trouble (and I am) creating 2 lattes with art from one steamed jug without separating, which is fine.

    I like a bit of art on the drinks I make, and from a washing up perspective it probably makes sense to just keep steaming 2 smaller jugs for consistency.

    Haha, yeah I'll post a picture of my efforts soon. I've only been making coffee at home for a couple months... Before that it has been a super auto machine doing all the work.

    Thanks again.

    Cheers
    Jamie

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    Just a problem of milk/microfoam separation. More swirls before you pour and if possible have a second jug that you can transfer the whole lot into, this really helps to bring it all bwck totether before pouring that sweet sweet art

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    Quote Originally Posted by timbeardman View Post
    Just a problem of milk/microfoam separation. More swirls before you pour and if possible have a second jug that you can transfer the whole lot into, this really helps to bring it all bwck totether before pouring that sweet sweet art
    Yes, that does seem to be the issue. But I don't really want to use another jug, kinda defeats the purpose. I'll just stick to the one.

    Here's yesterdays effort.IMG_0132.jpg

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    Doing what Ronin said is by far the best way. Yes you still end up using two jugs, but you only have to steam once so you speed things up a bit. If you want to try to stick with one jug you can stretch a bit further than usual then stir with a spoon before pouring. This is definitely a work around and some people will be horrified by this idea, but it works better than just swirling the jug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilsonj View Post
    Yes, that does seem to be the issue. But I don't really want to use another jug, kinda defeats the purpose. I'll just stick to the one.

    Here's yesterdays effort.IMG_0132.jpg
    Nice job for a home enthusiast.
    If anything (just based on the photo which can be deceiving) I’d say your milk is a touch thick or has settled, and you might be pouring a bit heavy handed. It’s the small things that take your art from this tulip to the next level

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