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    Vertical steam wand tips

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    Im having a great deal of trouble with using the work Saeco vertical steam wand that points straight down into the jug (no frothing attachment).

    Im used to my home one being angled (from which latte art microfoam comes every time), and I just cant seem to get the trick right with this one. I end up with small dishwashing bubbles (admittedly nothing near the 2.5cm bubbles left in the jug in the fridge when I get to it :P).

    I cant get the ch-ch-ch sound very well, I do use the steam at a lower level trying to get a whirlpool - perhaps I should try fully open and getting a rolling movement instead?

    Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intellidepth link=1215167707/0#0 date=1215167706
    Im having a great deal of trouble with using the work Saeco vertical steam wand that points straight down into the jug (no frothing attachment).

    Im used to my home one being angled (from which latte art microfoam comes every time), and I just cant seem to get the trick right with this one. I end up with small dishwashing bubbles (admittedly nothing near the 2.5cm bubbles left in the jug in the fridge when I get to it :P).

    I cant get the ch-ch-ch sound very well, I do use the steam at a lower level trying to get a whirlpool - perhaps I should try fully open and getting a rolling movement instead?

    Any ideas?
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    Re: Vertical steam wand tips

    i point mine straight down. I start a little slow, and then once things are moving nicely I speed it up. works well for me.

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    Re: Vertical steam wand tips

    I use this method.
    Steam arm at 90 deg in centre of milk (5mm under)
    I give it full steam from the get go
    Let the steam hit the bottom of the jug and this will start to create a whirlpool to foam
    Then when foam is starting I move the jug still at 90 deg until the wand touches the side of the jug
    Tilt jug as required at this point so steam is hitting the bottom corner of jug if you need to
    But foaming should be complete by then

    Well it works a treat for me
    Give it a go??

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    Re: Vertical steam wand tips

    KK what volume of milk do you do that with in what size jug please? I gave it a go today with about 200ml in a ~600ml jug, and ended up with dishwashing foam again.

    And then was mortified to find that someone, who is not a coffee snob, walk away with pretty good microfoam and I didnt see how he managed it! :( * He was pretty happy with his fluke too. I could only hear it from where I was sitting, and it sounded like stick the wand in, take the wand out, stick the wand in... the jiggle thing.

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    Re: Vertical steam wand tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Intellidepth link=1215167707/0#4 date=1215593071
    KK what volume of milk do you do that with in what size jug please? I gave it a go today with about 200ml in a ~600ml jug, and ended up with dishwashing foam again.

    And then was mortified to find that someone, who is not a coffee snob, walk away with pretty good microfoam and I didnt see how he managed it! :( * He was pretty happy with his fluke too. I could only hear it from where I was sitting, and it sounded like stick the wand in, take the wand out, stick the wand in... the jiggle thing.

    2muchcoffeeman: I work at a heavy engineering company that has a real "bend-shop" round the corner! Maybe Ill sneak it out one day...
    I prefer a 300 ml jug and fill it just under the bottom part of the spout

    If you only have a 600 ml jug only place the amount of milk req for one cup and follow the same procedure

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    Re: Vertical steam wand tips

    Its not impossible but it is quite difficult to try and steam milk just enough for one latte in a 600ml jug. I think it has something to do with the depth of milk required in the jug to get it stretching and swirling properly. If you fill up your 600ml jug with enough milk for 1.5 or 2 drinks, youd find it easier to get microfoamed milk. When I only had the 600ml jug and tried steaming milk just enough for 1, it was inconsistent, sometimes it would be good microfoam, other times, towards the end as the milk was getting hot, it would rise really quickly like overflowing porridge and result in dishwasher foam. Finding a 300ml jug (incasa) was a godsent.

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    Re: Vertical steam wand tips

    Quote Originally Posted by NewToEspresso link=1215167707/0#6 date=1215648142
    Its not impossible but it is quite difficult to try and steam milk just enough for one latte in a 600ml jug. I think it has something to do with the depth of milk required in the jug to get it stretching and swirling properly. If you fill up your 600ml jug with enough milk for 1.5 or 2 drinks, youd find it easier to get microfoamed milk. When I only had the 600ml jug and tried steaming milk just enough for 1, it was inconsistent, sometimes it would be good microfoam, other times, towards the end as the milk was getting hot, it would rise really quickly like overflowing porridge and result in dishwasher foam. Finding a 300ml jug (incasa) was a godsent.

    I just did it while making my last espresso and have foamed milk for 1 cup in a 600 ml jug on several occasions
    In a way it makes better foam due to the surface area is double that of a smaller jug

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    Re: Vertical steam wand tips

    Thank you. Food for thought. I know when I first started off with my current machine, it was easier to learn in a small jug, and once I got the hang of it the other jug sizes shortly followed.

    Perhaps Ill take in my own jugs, my own milk (they use longlife), my own thermometer and see what comes out.

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    Re: Vertical steam wand tips

    I used some longlife yesterday after running out of milk. It steamed fine, but didnt taste good.



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