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    I have a friend who is on an extended trip to France, working a bit in Paris.
    Not sure if anyone has posted on this area before, she says Starbucks is convenient but not very good..(and shes not a CS).
    Anyway if anyone can suggest places she might like to try I will pass it on.

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    Re: Paris France

    Paris is a great city - loved it! They have a great "cafe" culture, it just doesnt include quality coffee - they have a lot to learn about espresso.

    If she drinks espressos, tell her to ask for "ristretto" espressos - petite! (Hopefully she wont get too many blank looks.)

    Best espressos we had recently in a 4-day stay in Paris were in the cafe at Musee dOrsay and in an historic old cafe in Bvd St Germain called Cafe de Flores.

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    Re: Paris France

    And as I said last time Greg mentioned it, the Musee dOrsay is a must see as far as Im concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0834293238392E3B33385C0 link=1243287877/2#2 date=1243334620
    And as I said last time Greg mentioned it, the Musee dOrsay is a must see as far as Im concerned.
    For the Monets or the cafe?

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    Definitely for the Monets, and Manets, Van Goghs, Renoirs, Degas, Gauguins, etc...

    Brilliant stuff, totally mind blowing.

    Unfortunately Starry Night was out on loan, but so much more was there, including this fella:




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    Re: Paris France

    Quote Originally Posted by 21263325283E18767E7E7E470 link=1243287877/3#3 date=1243334788
    For the Monets or the cafe?
    Quote Originally Posted by 003522200D10470 link=1243287877/4#4 date=1243424873
    Definitely for the Monets, and Manets, Van Goghs, Renoirs, Degas, Renoirs, etc...

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    Re: Paris France

    Alto Cafe, outside Galeries Layfayette department store. Jeremy Hulsdunk from Perth taught them how to make good coffee while he was in Paris!!

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    Re: Paris France

    Currently in Paris, 90ml extraction is standard here.
    Had a shot at Soluna which has been blogged about as one of the best spots for a good coffee and yes the passion is there, they roast their own, only serve single origins but again, a 90ml shot.

    Walked past Alto Cafe many times, bought a scarfe at Galeries Layfayette yesterday (its warmer in London than Paris lately!) and saw they were using a 2 group FB70 and advertising toffee topped cream coffees, might give it a go

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    Re: Paris France

    Quote Originally Posted by 060114020F193F51595959600 link=1243287877/3#3 date=1243334788
    Quote Originally Posted by 0834293238392E3B33385C0 link=1243287877/2#2 date=1243334620
    And as I said last time Greg mentioned it, the Musee dOrsay is a must see as far as Im concerned.
    For the Monets or the cafe?
    well not for the coffee IMO
    was there end of May this year check this winner out "fresh to the table"
    not sure if the "free" chocky penut makes the $9.00 AUD coffee worth it but..... I had a laugh

    nice clock in the musee but (could not get it in the shot)


    I found some of the worst coffee i have ever drank in Paris, sad to think most seem to make it on UHT milk. the amount of cheese etc they have around one would think they should have fresh milk as well
    any way some more pics of "winners" of the worst coffee ever

    eiffel tower in background, little one slept a lot......


    somewhere in montmarte near the metro, great microfoam?


    some very forgetable coffee shop not sure where in Paris


    picking up a new suit, had to try star..... to test them....
    Champs Des Elysees


    near Parisian church of Saint-Sulpice (rose line) check the crema on it ?



    IMO seems this guy and the milk (can you call it milk?) below are the reason its so bad. "Richard" seemed to be everywhere we went....



    then we went to Greece, i like coffee but, i think someone made a mistake here?

    oh well the veiw was nice


    i drank a lot of frappés in Greece, nothing exciting but nice.
    no pics but i gave up.......
    they make some on instant I had a laugh
    nescaffee frappee please I had a laugh

    i love France but considering its so close to the "home" of coffee Italy you would think it would be better......

    happy travels




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    Re: Paris France

    Thanks for the pics Maheel. :D

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    Nice pics Maheel. Looks a great trip (notwithstanding the coffee problems).

    Youre right about French coffee - unfortunately, for a country with such a fine cuisine tradition, its diabolical. Ive heard of people living in the south of France going for regular trips across the Italian border just to get a decent cup.

    I think I was very lucky to get a passable one in the Orsay (in the cafe, not restaurant) - possibly a a freshly opened bag, "barista" on that day who had some clue, whatever... It was the only time I had a second cup in the 4 weeks traveling between Rome and Monmouths in London (through France, Belgium, Ireland - ah, but the Guinness - and UK). Hopefully, the quality coffee wave will have swept through that part of the world before I go back (which I hope is not too far away).

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    Re: Paris France

    Two years after these earlier posts were made, its my sad duty to report that nothing has changed in this city which otherwise excels in matters of cheese, wine, bread,charcuterie and general joie de vivre.

    But coffee seems to elude them.

    My experience in the past few days: thin café express, almost boiling café au lait, and this morning, spotting a very busy cafe that had two Rancilio machines side by side and Lavazza beans, I naively thought I should ask for a cappuccino.

    The middle-aged barista muttered something about half-half, and frothed up two milk jugs, spooned the cup with just the froth, till it was billowing over cup height.

    He then dosed some coffee into the group handle, stuck it straight into the machine (no tamping, and as I observed, he didnt have a tamper, so all his coffees were made like this), and poured the resultant thin coffee into my fluff-filled cup....* :(

    FRANCE, I LOVE YOU, BUT WHY THE HELL CANT YOU GET THIS RIGHT!!!

    Rome next week....relief on the way....

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    For anyone lucky enough to be heading over to Paris (I'm there in September), this TimeOut article gives hope yet that good coffee may be found, if you know where to look.
    The best coffee in Paris
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    My hint for coffee in France is to kisten for the missing sound in most cafes - you rarely hear the sound of a grinder, almost no coffee is ground to order, many cafes spoon their ground coffee into the basket straight from a jar. If you hear a grinder, that's the cafe to go into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullitt View Post
    I have a friend who is on an extended trip to France, working a bit in Paris.
    Not sure if anyone has posted on this area before, she says Starbucks is convenient but not very good..(and shes not a CS).
    Anyway if anyone can suggest places she might like to try I will pass it on.

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    My hint for coffee in France is to listen for the missing sound in most cafes - you rarely hear the sound of a grinder, almost no coffee is ground to order, many cafes spoon their ground coffee into the basket straight from a jar. If you hear a grinder, that's the cafe to go into.

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    anyone spotted any good cafes in Paris lately? Going over there early next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by summercrema View Post
    anyone spotted any good cafes in Paris lately? Going over there early next year.
    When I was living in that neck of the woods a few years ago, La Caféothèque in the 4th was decent. They roast beans on site (all single origins). Not sure if it's changed over the last few years though.

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    Was at La Caféothèque a few months ago, best I could find in Paris.

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    So, another year or so on - anyone with any other recommendations? I'm here for another week and have never seen bubbles in microfoam so big or coffee served so hot!

    I did chance across one good tiny cafe though - Terres de Cafe near Aligre markets. Looks like the man (who also spoke impeccable English) runs a Rocket of some description but I'll have a proper look tomorrow. It's a half hour walk from where I'm staying but I'll do that every morning if nothing else turns up!

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    Hi all,

    I was just sent a PM by bjjoh3 who hadn't enough posts to post on this thread but looks like he did some fairly thorough research before he came. He contributed the following:

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    I was in Paris this time last year and did some research before I arrived. I was able to find good coffee at:
    - Loustic (40 Rue Chapon, 75003 Paris, France)
    - Coutume Café (47 Rue de Babylone, 75007 Paris, France, if you check their website I think they have a few locations)

    I only had a few days (I was there for Le Tour) so they were the only cafes I was able to visit. Other cafes from my research were: Richer, Blackburn Coffee, Holybelly, Cafe Craft, Foundation Cafe & Honor.
    "

    I'll give my thoughts on any I manage to get to.

    Thanks bjjoh3!
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    Well I tried to check out a few of the places as has been suggested but during August a lot of places were on holiday I did go to Cafeotheque and they were awesome! Although first time there my girlfriend accidentally ordered a gigantic latte (must have been about 350ml!).

    For any snobbers heading to Paris I made a map of all the suggested places - see below. Hopefully you can find one next to you. I was jet-lagged one morning and woke up at 4am and decided this was a good use of time .

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BR...pw&usp=sharing
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    Foundation Coffee Marias Area. Run by a Sydney sider- lovely coffee and they understand your order....

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettreaby View Post
    Foundation Coffee Marias Area. Run by a Sydney sider- lovely coffee and they understand your order....
    It's not only lovely coffee, it was the best coffee that we found in Paris. I was in Paris a month ago and tried a few of the mentioned cafes but ended going back to Fondation Cafe.

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    Big big recommendation for Terres de Cafe. Had an hour long chat with the barista Rue des Blancs Manteaux who visibly jumped when I mentioned I was roasting some Hartmann (let alone honey process) - he's a big fan of the estate. He was runner up in the French championships (the cup is prominently displayed) and travels regularly to the origin to source his beans. His chocolate recommendation (Pierre Marcolini) was the best chocolate I've had in Paris, beating several Meilleurs Ouvriers de France. He thinks the French coffee scene is catching up with the Aussies despite the latter's domination of international competitions. More V60 less espresso oriented, though, even if he's a fan of espresso and is a bit sad that some tourists complain that he's charging 2.20 EUR vs the usual 1 EUR for the overexpressed watery robusta horrors you get when asking for a "cafe" most other places.

    Went back 4 times including once to the Rue Rambuteau shop and everybody who works there has proven competent (and a good conversationalist). Many customers are English speakers. A new coffee is served every day - I've had, so far, an Ethiopian I cannot remember, a Kenyan I also cannot remember (bitter orange peel finish though) and a Colombian Esperanza honey process which had a very long finish despite being quite acidic. Before serving the Kenyan, he insisted on tasting it as we were the first customers to have it.

    I think this was the first time I was in a French cafe where the spirit equalled what the country does on the food side of things.
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