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    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    There are a plethora of cafes in Sydney CDB. Having too many choices can be a pain so to help cut to the chase, a guide is needed. Ill kick off

    Velluto Nero
    259 Clarence St Sydney (southern end, behind Queen Victoria Building)
    Blends & SOs roasted onsite
    They have a website.

    Not sure that this counts as CBD as it is actually in Surry Hills on eastern side of Central Railway:
    Single Origin Roasters
    64 Reservoir Street (off Elizabeth St)
    Surry Hills

    Serve up a SO of the week. Fairly busy but efficient and worth visiting. Al fresco and inside seating but need a bigger shop IMO.

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    MECCA ESPRESSO

    67 King St, Sydney. Try to stay away during peak hour times as youll be waiting for a while.
    Serving up Rio Coffee out of SA through one of the two LM Mistrals. These guys seem to be chopping and changing new equipment all the time... I wonder where that 2gp Synesso Cyncra went.

    MECCA II

    Alternatively you can head down to the Rocks/Circular Quay area on George st and I think its Alfred St. Its hard to find, open till 3pm, 5 days a week. At the base of the building on the corner. They had a LM GB5 last time I looked. I think on of our fellow CSs still works there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeeZa link=1218409705/0#1 date=1218424606

    MECCA II

    Alternatively you can head down to the Rocks/Circular Quay area on George st and I think its Albert St.
    Actually, its ALFRED ST.

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    Quote Originally Posted by ajayro link=1218409705/0#2 date=1218469878
    Quote Originally Posted by YeeZa link=1218409705/0#1 date=1218424606

    MECCA II

    Alternatively you can head down to the Rocks/Circular Quay area on George st and I think its Albert St.
    Actually, its ALFRED ST.
    I knew it started with an "A"! Cheers ajayro

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    Its not technically a coffee cafe ... but if youre at Mecca and feel like a beer, head around the corner to the Red Oak beer cafe. I took my wife (a non beer drinker) there for lunch and got her to try a Framboise Froment. She loved it!

    201 Clarence St
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    http://www.redoak.com.au/

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    Ill 2nd Mecca, but I talked to them the other day and they are roasting their own coffee now. The coffee I had there was one of the best ive ever had.

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    Yeah Mecca I think now have Clover blend, with a bunch of talented and friendly baristi. One day they may even get me to appreciate long blacks fully, but they pull some of the best shots of espresso its ever been my pleasure to drink :)

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    Mecca II is in near the entrance of 1 Alfred Street, the building is on the corner of George St.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattyj link=1218409705/0#4 date=1218588917
    Its not technically a coffee cafe ... but if youre at Mecca and feel like a beer, head around the corner to the Red Oak beer cafe. I took my wife (a non beer drinker) there for lunch and got her to try a Framboise Froment. She loved it!

    201 Clarence St
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    http://www.redoak.com.au/
    Was recommended this place by the ECA technician when I was in town earlier this year. Unfortunately didnt get to try this place but will try get there the next time Im in Sydney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes - David S link=1218409705/0#8 date=1221650012
    Was recommended this place by the ECA technician when I was in town earlier this year. Unfortunately didnt get to try this place but will try get there the next time Im in Sydney.
    its fantastic! it really is!

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    I go out of my way to get to Tobys Estate at City Road, Broadway when I visit Sydney.

    They have a different SO each day.
    Each time I have been there for a coffee, I have had a FABULOUS coffee experience!!!

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    Hi all

    Had a coffee today at a coffee roastery/cafe at Pyrmont. My wife and I were at the Little Snail Restaurant for the old timers computer luncheon and opposite was a Coffee Roastery so I had to check it out. They have a 3 group machine, I forgot to see what model, and a Toper roaster (maybe 5kg?). They roast for their own cafe and for other cafes. They have a dozen roasted bean varieties available for sale.

    Quite a good espresso and an excellent flat white based on their own blend. The blend is developed for milk drinks. Had a nice chat to them. The owners are avid coffee enthusiasts, the barista was keen to make a good shot. Jills latte art on her flat white was finely detailed, nice and defined. She said the coffee flavour lasted through the entire drink. They have been open for 5 months. I hope they do well as they have great coffee.

    Cherry Beans Coffee
    Shop 1/45 Murry St, Pyrmont.
    (They are directly opposite the Little Snail, near West end of the Pyrmont Bridge)
    http://www.cherrybeans.com.au/

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    I was passing Mecca II today so had to stop.
    I had a very nice flat white and my wife did not dislike her long black.

    She was offered a coffee when we got where we were going (I declined).
    What arrived looked promising but it tasted horribly bitter.
    It made her appreciate the Mecca one a lot more.

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    MECCA ESPRESSO (update)

    Now have syphon coffee (x3) with halogen burners on offer. I had a delish Sidamo there yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeeZa link=1218409705/0#13 date=1228029467
    I had a delish Sidamo there yesterday.
    Same ;)

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    +1 for Mecca (and Redoak, though I prefer our Aussie pale ales to their English-style, fruity one ;))

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattyj link=1218409705/0#4 date=1218588917
    Its not technically a coffee cafe ... but if youre at Mecca and feel like a beer, head around the corner to the Red Oak beer cafe. I took my wife (a non beer drinker) there for lunch and got her to try a Framboise Froment. She loved it!

    201 Clarence St
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    http://www.redoak.com.au/
    I did it in reverese.

    I attended a lunch today at Redoak so finally made my first pilgimage to Mecca afterwards.

    My impression today was that it was a good coffee but not earth shattering.


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    Re: Sydney CBD

    Lüneburger German Bakery

    Shop 72 Lower Ground, Queen Victoria Building - just down from Town Hall Stn

    Ive been walking past this place for years - somebodyrecommended it to me back in 06. Never got around to trying it as there were always fairly long queues. Last week there wasnt much open, including my usual haunts, so I thought Id give it a try.

    They use a Wega two group(? - didnt catch the model) and Paul Bassett blend. tTe coffees I ordered (played it safe with a straight cap) was smooth and served fairly quickly. No queues at the times I went (after 9 AM). Ive been there twice now and the one I ordered today was just as good as the one I ordered last week

    If youre walking past and feel like a quick cuppa, you could do much worse (such as visit the Staryucks, opposite) plus there is a range of delish bakery items. There are also tables available but being in the QVB lower ground arcade, theres a bit too much pedestrian traffic for a quiet cuppa.

    There are other shops around the city but havent tried them

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    Yeah, I noticed those places using Paul Bassett espresso. Might give one a try sometime.

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    I tried Velluto Nero this morning and was most impressed with the flat white I received.

    Give it a go.

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    Is that place in the Strand Arcade still operating- I think it was Mocopan- Rancilio machines. One barista did an amazing coffee, the other was very ordinary- couple of years ago though, sorry!
    Brett

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    the place in the Strand arcade is now terrible (well, the campos place is) - not sure of the other one. Oh Strand Espresso. Go to Mecca instead imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 74595853495449443D0 link=1218409705/21#21 date=1246545510
    the place in the Strand arcade is now terrible (well, the campos place is) - not sure of the other one. Oh Strand Espresso. Go to Mecca instead imo.
    Do I detect another person not in love with Campos? Or just that store?
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    Jet Cafe Bar

    Ive been walking past this place for the last three years and it has always been well patronised but by touristy types (dont ask me to explain that term) which kind of steered me away.

    I gave it a try this morning and will give it a thumbs up. I played safe and ordered a capp which was quite smooth and exactly the right temperature. They use Coffex.

    The machine looks to be a LM 3-group at a very rough guess. I couldnt read the brand from where I sat. The scrambled eggs was tasty enough but closer to an omelet.

    Ill give it another try and order a spro or mach next time.

    Queen Victoria Building Shop 55 Sydney (its at the southern end, right near the statue of her former majesty)

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    hmmm Jet was undrinkable (to my palette) last time I went in, had a strong latte, looked okay (but slightly dreggy) but tasted acrid and bitter.

    Im actually putting campos organic, roma and bourbon st. beans through my grinder as soon as my pack of obama goes (last 2 shots), so you could hardly say Im not a fan! I dont really have a preferred style of bean, just a preferred style of shot (eg. mix of bottom, middle and top notes, to use aromatherapy/perfume terminology). Campos usually gets more florals/top notes than most Sydney blends, but the downside is the acidity/sourness gets way out of control at a bad cafe.

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    I feel like posting my latest Sydney thoughts here...

    Mecca (as my daily fix) - (note: now has a Clover (to replace their three-up siphon bar) and two SOs to try)
    Review: (long black) Balanced, mellow, slight acidity/fruit flavour - Very drinkable IMHO
    Notes: Espresso seems to be consistently good. *Blacks and espresso get a different blend to milk-based drinks. Havent had time to try the clover yet.

    [Name unknown] - cafe at 285 Crown St Surry Hills - same new(ish) complex as the Thomas Dux Grocery store
    Review: (Double espresso) Tasty - Sweet, fruity, smooth
    Notes: Spied a synesso from the footpath and had to try it. *Barista seemed nice and was keen to find out if I liked the espresso. Found out they use a Five Senses blend.

    Single Origin Roasters
    Why cant you be open on weekends! Must remember to take a sicky one day and have a long breakfast...

    Nookie (Cleveland Street)
    Review: (t/a strong flat white) *Nice, quality, smooth tasting coffee. Better than most.
    Notes: Small hole-in-the-wall on Cleveland Street (Just down from Elizabeth). *I tried here just after they opened. *Uses Di Gabriel beans IIRC.

    Juice and Java (Elizabeth Street - near Cleveland Street)
    Review: (Espresso) Nice house blend. *But better to pick one of the many other beans they sell. Much more interesting, and plenty to choose from.
    Notes: Decent breakfast joint. Open weekends, but only every second Sudnay (could be only every second Saturday as well but unsure).

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    Had my firsts Mecca clover today, interesting brew not going to rush back for clover but it was drinkable, just hard to describe. interesting sort of aftertaste on the tongue not really an "aftertaste, maybe berry ???

    not my thing BUT you gotta try new things :) will have another go

    Latte always spot on :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 262A232E2E274B0 link=1218409705/26#26 date=1250315343
    Had my firsts Mecca clover today
    Ditto - Eth. Beloya 16.

    The first two sips were underwhelming - not bad just that the flavour was very subdued. Then I decided to shut my milk-based espresso senses, open my taste buds and tune in.

    The next couple of sips and I could taste berry. A couple more, yes blueberry. A little more -> blueberry + florals and I was getting a bit more of a spectrum of flavours.

    By the time I finished the cup I would happily have ordered another (if I had time). Sensational! *My palate is still dancing with joy. I can see why Michelle raves about it.

    I couldnt see that Mecca had the Beloya on sale - I could only see the Darkhorse blend. Is it only by request or do you have to among the A crowd or what?

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    does anyone else pick up a kind of horse manure kind of smell from the Beloya?

    or is it just me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 363A2F2F22315B0 link=1218409705/28#28 date=1251868608
    does anyone else pick up a kind of horse manure kind of smell from the Beloya?

    or is it just me?
    Not just you. I believe its a function of the natural process used on said delicious Beloya. Check this out: http://www.jimseven.com/2009/08/28/i-know-this-isnt-a-video/

    Quote Originally Posted by 3D372235353A2E285B0 link=1218409705/27#27 date=1251863485
    By the time I finished the cup I would happily have ordered another (if I had time). Sensational! *My palate is still dancing with joy. I can see why Michelle raves about it.

    I couldnt see that Mecca had the Beloya on sale - I could only see the Darkhorse blend. Is it only by request or do you have to among the A crowd or what?
    Haha cool, yeah you gotta switch off the old spro-brain with clover ;) *Um, nope, pretty sure its just a matter of what they happen to have on sale at the time I think. Im sure if you ask one of the boys they could tell you when theyll have it around again.

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    So, totally lacking any willpower (and why would you) I was compelled to try another Beloya clover brew from mecca today. Once again, amazing.
    The first sip nothing, then just after swallowing I had a mouthful of chocolate (but a much cleaner flavour than the chocolates I taste in a spro), another sip the florals but a different floral to yesterday. The berries didnt appear until towards then end and nowhere near as prominent this time.

    Anyway, Mecca has a couple of bags of this for sale near the Clover. Roasted on Sep 1. I had to buy one, of course. the casher guy asked how I was going to prepare it and when I said espresso, he was surprised. The bag shows that it is roasted for syphon but theres also a picture of a tamper so I assume its also suitable for a spro. Well, I know cos Michelle hasnt been shy about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 464C594E4E415553200 link=1218409705/30#30 date=1251940834
    The bag shows that it is roasted for syphon but theres also a picture of a tamper so I assume its also suitable for a spro. Well, I know cos Michelle hasnt been shy about it.
    No No NO NO NO!!! They use a super light roast for syphon/clover that is NOT suitable for spro. The Beloya I had for spro was firstly from BBB, which is a darker roast profile, and then someone hooked me up with some that Mecca had roasted for specially for spro.

    Try it as spro if you want, but please, dont invoke my name as saying youll like it. Its a super super light roast and will be way too sour for most peoples tastes. Using a manual brew method is a much better idea, and will do this exceptional coffee far more justice.

    ... not entirely sure how I became the poster girl for Beloya, and pretty sure my palate is not qualified to represent such deliciousness ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 766C7A6F6F1B0 link=1218409705/31#31 date=1251941318
    that is NOT suitable for spro.
    So why does it have a tamper symbol next to the syphon symbol on the label? I have a plunger so Im happy to do it as a manual.

    The Beloya I had for spro was firstly from BBB
    Now you tell me ::) ;D. I saw their website but as mecca also had some available - carpe diem.

    ... not entirely sure how I became the poster girl for Beloya
    Well a quick look in the "Whats in my grinder and cup" topic will answer that. ;D But also above and in the Aroma fest, I think Beloya fangirl is not an inappropriate descriptor though you have also mentioned Aricha, to be fair.

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    Hee hee, this is really getting off-topic.

    As far as Im aware, they usually mark either the syphon OR the tamper to distinguish which it is roasted for. You should still get awesome brews from your plunger. Be interested to hear how it goes.

    And as for being a fangirl, well, maybe Ill just be the Bagersh fangirl ... mmm ... Beloya, Aricha, Misty Valley ... they even have a Michele that I would dearly love to get my hands on!

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    As Michelles Beloya-courier, I can safely state that were both Beloya fan-people, because its such a fan-worthy bean. Luca is probably the Melbourne fan-king, but theres a reason for this. Beloya is so good its wrong, almost impossible to extract badly, and a new experience in every cup.

    The Mecca Beloya #16 is a stunning cup on their clover, but without the siphon bar Im preferring espresso @ home. While this all probably needs splitting off into a seperate, off-topic post. The BBB roast is between filter & espresso, while Mecca target their roasts to the specific brew methods. IMO its best enjoyed fairly young, before the nose subsides!

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    Afternoon all

    I am going to be in the Waterloo area tomorrow having our car services (right near green square station) and was wondering if there is anything within walking distance of note??

    I realise I could hop a train to the CBD - I did this last time and hoofed it down to Mecca for my first time there but as the train line is on the airport route it cost me $20 return to central :o so if their is anything decent that is walkable I would prefer to go there first.

    Thanks all.
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    Shannon, you could always give Allpress a try on Epsom Road, which could be a bit of a trek. hmm, maybe also give Danks Street Depot and Cafe Sopra above Fratelli Fresh, also on Danks Street a go. None of them will be up to Meccas standard but were ok-ish last time I went in to either.

    also, if you havent found it already, you should check out zokoko chocolate & morgans espresso bar on Old Bathurst Rd in Emu Heights on the way home.

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    Thanks for the tips Hazchem - Ill have a look at how far they are. The wife wasnt as concerned with the train fair into the city as I was, so I might splurge and train it down to Mecca II if the service is going to take a while - might as well make the most of the fact I have to drive through peak hour all the way to Waterloo!

    As for Morgans, 2 maybe 3 years ago at aroma someone on the ECA stand found out I was a Blueys boy and put me onto them. They have pretty much been my staple bean supplier since then. Great people and great product.

    I was going to write them up here, but wanted to wait until the chocolate (Zokoko) side of the business was in full production. The new cafe bar is awesome. My 16 month old son and I hang out there most Friday mornings after dropping my daughter at school.

    Thanks again. Shannon.

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    Bus to the city would be your best bet if its Mecca youre after.

    I know the 308, 309, 343 and a few others head into the city from that way, but check a sydney buses trip planner.

    Or Surry Hills... Try any of the ones I mention earlier in the thread. *A bit closer than the city (but not much).

    Or Newtown, Campos?

    Or Wollomoolah for some Tobys Estate.



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    Shannon, if youre disposing with walking distance then you could also try Coffee Alchemy on Addison Road in Marrickville. Might be a couple of bus hops but itll be worth it, Hazel is awesome, friendly, generous and I cant say enough good things about her!

    Last time I was in the zokoko/morgans bar, they had hoped to have chocolate production in full swing by August. Have you got an update on that perhaps?

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    Checking out where Hazel resides is very tempting, its been ages since Ive had to get my head around bus routes, but I think its time.

    I wrote some more after your katoomba thread about Zokoko, but they are hoping before Chrissy for full production. Will keep you guys posted.

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    WORKSHOP ESPRESSO

    The Galeries Victoria, 500 George Street, City.

    Barry, the owner, super nice guy. They have only been open for just over 4 weeks, using a blend and single os supplied out of the Tobys roasteries w/ 4 grinders (BNZs & Compaks) and 2x Kees Mirages side by side. Has some nice food too with breads from Sonoma bakery and Paul Simons Jams, delish.
    Great decor ala-workshop (obviously), rustic, but modern.

    Add this one to the CBD cafe crawl.

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    Mecca

    With all the buzz about Mecca I thought I must visit whilst in town, visiting from Perth. Got there nice an early for a double ristretto flat white - presented beautifully with perfect rosetta but.... it didnt live up to its looks. Was it stale? flat tasting or was it their blend? walked away unconvinced. Next day I was walking past and couldnt help but notice the huge queue - where there is smoke there is fire so I gave it a second chance - thank goodness I did, this one was right on the money and worth the 10min wait. Still not sure what happened day 1 but Im converted! 8-)

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    Tobys outlet (under a diff name though?) Harris St Sydney - just near the corner with Broadway. Always busy - for good reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5844445B40210 link=1218409705/41#41 date=1254032607
    WORKSHOP ESPRESSO

    The Galeries Victoria, 500 George Street, City.
    I would like to give this place a plug as well. It is actually in George St close to Town Hall and is easy to miss. Last time there I bought some of their beans (house blend) and they were fresh and excellent. They gave me a free coffee as i bought beans - not sure if that is policy or they were just generous on the day.

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    Re: Sydney CBD

    Went to Syd as a stopover on the honeymoon, so had to find some good coffee places to keep me going. Mecca was a must-try after the reviews here, and I was not disappointed. I didnt read about Workshop on here, but saw it opposite QVB on George St and it looked like a cool place that was worth a try, and it most certainly was. Tiny hole-in-the-wall cafe that serves great coffee, and a pretty good cherry danish too ;D Add it to the list for the CBD...

    And if youre after a great breakfast place, Lovebite Cafe on Goulburn St is excellent (and the coffees good too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5853495B040D3C0 link=1218409705/45#45 date=1262042888
    I didnt read about Workshop on here, but saw it opposite QVB on George St and it looked like a cool place that was worth a try, and it most certainly was. Tiny hole-in-the-wall cafe that serves great coffee, and a pretty good cherry danish tooGrin Add it to the list for the CBD...
    That cafe is only a few months old. As you say, it is tiny and easy to miss. I drive past it every day, but I havent had a chance to try it. But I will.

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    Re: Sydney CBD - Workshop Espresso

    I have tried it a couple of times and I cant say I was that enthused. Their beans are roasted by Tobys and, as I suspected, had the distinctive "Tobys Taste". The first drop I had was a Mexican SO as an espresso which was quite lively and interesting but had the Tobys taste. I tried a latte and a machiatio on two other occasions and cant say I have been keen enough to go back since. Part of the reason is the ambience; being a hole-in-the-wall and also situated on busy George St, I had this need to throw down the coffee and depart not linger and enjoy the coffee and Im sure this lessened my enjoyment.
    They source their own greens I think. Anyway, there was a write-up on the SMH website

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    "Tobys taste" - interesting.....Ive never been a fan of Tobys coffee but can you provide a description of what you mean by Tobys taste?

    Cheers

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    7 beans in the blend?
    Thats 3 g each in the 21g basket.
    About 30ish beans of each type.
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