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    Choice/Current Affair pap...

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Anybody see the advertorial for Choice and Hardly Normal tonight?

    Just goes to prove that Choice should stick to toasters and Hardly should sell beds and computers.....

    Funniest thing was the two coffee addicts and what they thought was good...

    I predict a wave of CS newbies hoping to get some assistance and somthing drinkable out of their newly aquired boat anchors....::)

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    No no it was a highly scientific test ;D, it is amazing how much bling is on machines now. It is good to see that they were pushing more manual machines than the super autos.

    Still the best thing I have seen on ACA for years. ;D

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    Hardly Norman should stick to toasters, beds and leave computers well alone.

    If they pushed the more manual machines then there must be a bigger margin in the sale or more chance of sales in that price point.

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    yeah I saw it. Pretty funny that they were drooling over the gushers that came out of the machines. Im quite embarrassed for them.

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    Poor bastards... :(

    Cant tell the difference between the "real thing" and that swill they thought was espresso. Oh wait a minute, this was Choice and ACA, all makes sense now ::) :P

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    For those who missed it...

    You can read about it all here and provide comment / feedback *http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/Blog.aspx?mode=preview&blogentryid=415866&showcomm ents=true

    I guess CS will get to see a new wave of members, looking for advice or singing the praises of HN...

    And even watch the whole show for prosperity...


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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

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    Any idea what type of machine is pictured near the bottom for the test espresso they have pullled?
    Unless i am really off the mark, that isnt going to be in any of the price ranged machines they have written about.

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    They got a few tips right but disappointed they didnt talk about the importance of freshly roasted & ground coffee of good quality. Most people ive spoken to off the street havent got a clue that coffee generally tends to degrade after a week or so of roasting.

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    I loved the coffee tasting experts - of course the barista will make the machine look good on tele.
    HA - choice picked it - must be good!!
    I`ve seen TV reviews in Choice claim one TV is better than another because it has anohter HDMI input or the remote looked better, not based on performance or pic quality.
    I sell all those coffee machines at work and the the price point most people want is around the $300 mark, and no one really wants to but the EM0450/0480 with it. The Nespresso and automatic machines in the last month have been the biggest movers. The Breville Cafe Series is also moving slowly. But the $200 mark is where they walk out the door.

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    They really, and consistently continue to have no idea...

    I reckon that we could collectively produce a mag bigger and way better *than Choice about what they dont know about coffee.

    For mine, their work is best nailed to the back of the dunny door for use in times of emergency ::)

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    The only good thing that can be said about that report - for the retailers on this site, including those retailing green or brown beans is that it will probably prompt quite a few people (they do these articles from time to time over the years) to go and get a machine. From there a proportion will look to do better with the machine and consider a grinder and fresh coffee...

    From there a smaller proportion will go on to get onto sites like this one and start getting upgraditis and even a passion for home roasting.....

    Lets face it the little Ristretto for $99 is now worse than the $300-400 machines they are flogging....interestingly they dont even mention the em6910 which (apart from the Silvia) is one of the most serious of the home machines but a fair margin (nor do they mention the Gaggia Classic...). They dont talk about the difference between crema enhancers and commercial style baskets...but as I say it will prompt people and from there good things will come.

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    Good point, and the more people learn, the more theyll come to recognise all the terrible coffee being poured in cafes and restaurants. At the end of the day it largely comes down to the baristas knowledge/skill or lack thereof.

    Case in point, yesterday i had the most awful over-extracted coffee at Cartel here in Brisbane. Usually they are quite good, they use campos superior blend. But this barista clearly had no idea what she was doing. I should have returned it, it was that bad.

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    highlight for me was the Choice expert commenting on the quality of the "eXpresso" ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 777F70767E2421150 link=1242898426/12#12 date=1242956265
    highlight for me was the Choice expert commenting on the quality of the "eXpresso"Grin
    Maybe someone should point them here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ik4b_aHa_8

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    I noticed the Choice spokesperson, Elise, saying eXpresso as well.
    All credibility then went out the door.

    Daniel Levitas, the barista - googling brings up no hits.
    Need I say more?

    The last pic in the article was not of an appliance but a real machine.

    ACA used to do hard hitting stories.
    In the days of Mike Willisee or even Mike Munro in the street, it would have been:

    "Public Scammed by Harvey Norman and Myer!!! Passing off appliances as coffee machines!!! Choice implicated as accomplice."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 665A475C565740555D56320 link=1242898426/14#14 date=1242960998
    "Public Scammed by Harvey Norman and Myer!!! Passing off appliances as coffee machines!!! Choice implicated as accomplice."
    I think it was actually myer who got done, HN was heaps cheaper for coffee machines was what that was all about. Wonder what HN paid for that? :D

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    Well it sounded like an infomercial,
    paid marketing for Hardley Normal to me.


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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    $50 says they dont publish my coments :D ;D

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    Quote Originally Posted by 7B4E4344706C4049494A4A2F0 link=1242898426/17#17 date=1242974320
    $50 says they dont publish my coments *:D ;D
    I made a comment at about 10am, and not published yet


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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    I see TG got in early.

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    I dont want to defend Choice/ACA, but I think this forum is wayyyy above average in expectations and experience. For the average punter who has one or two eXpressos a day, maybe the superautos or entry-level manuals are fine. Theyre easy to use and perhaps are well matched to the pre-staled beans/ground coffee the punter is likey to pick up at Coles (or Gloria Jeans, when theyre really feeling adventurous.
    And after a couple of years, theyll either be perfectly happy with their home efforts, tire of the "hard work involved in making proper coffee" - or stumble across us!
    Lets not be too harsh.
    Lets put it all into perspective!

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    ACA has only been an infomercial for years now. As you watch each segment, ask yourself does this topic logically fit under current affairs?...rarely will the answer be yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by 69616E68603A3F0B0 link=1242898426/12#12 date=1242956265
    highlight for me was the Choice expert commenting on the quality of the "eXpresso" *;D
    Yes, I drive past Hungry Jacks every day where there is about a 10m high massive sign shouting to the world that they sell fresh eXpresso. Have been contemplating approaching them for a job proof reading their ads...that sign must have cost a fortune! Adding a dictionary to the cost could have been fitted into the budget surely!

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    Quote Originally Posted by 43494451524D4C5140250 link=1242898426/20#20 date=1242978896
    this forum is wayyyy above average in expectations
    Absolutely agree with you there hence the comments. We know what we are talking about (at least we think we do) and the comments are about on par with what you would expect. 8-)

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    <cringes, waits to be hit>
    I didnt actually find it too bad at all, considering the source.
    Most of my co-workers still drink either (up-market) instant or stale super-machine coffee and think its fine.

    At least there is a chance that some will realise that real coffee actually exists, and can be made at home. Good sales of these machines might also cause many cafés to lift their game.

    We can always hope that the rest of the world comes to [s]agree with us[/s] oops--their senses. :)

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    Quote Originally Posted by 45706765556D706F636E66020 link=1242898426/23#23 date=1242982152
    (up-market) instant
    Eh :-/

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    Quote Originally Posted by 504746584D4C47131013220 link=1242898426/24#24 date=1242984141
    (up-market) instant
    Expensive, well marketed, freeze dried (my former drink of choice).

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    Ignorance is bliss, untill you know what tastes better, all is good.

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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    Flatwhite / Lozzo - I have to agree.
    I am amazed at the number of people that run to the kitchen at work to say i need a decent coffee and go to the nescafe which we purchase in the 1KG tin and decant into a container.

    I just nod and keep walking, there is no point in trying to push my view but a few of them have heard that i roast coffee and that peaks their interest about coffee in general and mind you it wasnt that long ago that i was drinking supermarket coffee :(


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    Re: Choice/Current Affair pap...

    Quote Originally Posted by 626C616E796F6E000 link=1242898426/19#19 date=1242976034
    I see TG got in early.
    8-)



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