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    Tour de France 2009

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    This year we are spoilt for choice in sport
    Tour de France 2009 is due to start on SBS

    I have been hanging out for the start of the Cricket Ashes Test *but it looks like the greatest cycling event will be getting a look in as well
    Hopefuly I wont look like this when its all over *

    SBS TDF 2009 Link
    http://tdf.sbs.com.au/tdf2009/



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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Cadel Evans is placed 5th after the first stage time trial of the Tour de France

    Long way to go yet

    Im exited

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Good chance to grind a few beans eh, KK. 8-)

    Last year was the first time I got in the Tour, and I was hooked from day 1. Working nights is a bonus now, the TV gets fired up and Im getting paid for it.

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    No change in the order
    Stage 2 (187 km)
    Monaco >> Brignoles


    Cadel Evans is still placed 5th after the second stage of the Tour de France


    Next is Stage 3 (196.5 km)
    Marseille >> La Grande-Motte tonight AU time

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    I have some friends who are a cycling family, I delivered 1kg of freshly roasted last Thursday which usually keeps them going for two weeks until the next order.
    Last night I received an e-mail begging for more beans as her son and all his mates sit and watch the tour each night and consume copious amounts of coffee, luckily I had just done a couple of roasts for home so I was able to satisfy their need for late night caffeine fixes!! :) :)

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Stage 3 (196.5 km)
    Marseille >> La Grande-Motte



    Cadel Evans has dropped to place 8 due to split in the pack & crosswinds
    Interview
    http://player.sbs.com.au/tdf#/tdf_08/interviews/interviews/playlist/TDF-Stage-3-Cadel-Evans/

    However not a surprise is
    Lance ARMSTRONG in 3rd place

    But it is a very long race and it is early days yet

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by 4D584F4F44474B442A0 link=1246765769/4#4 date=1246919426
    I was able to satisfy their need for late night caffeine fixes!! :) :)
    Yep this must be the scene in that household

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Stage 4 (39 km)
    Montpellier Teams Time Trial

    Current leader board @ stage 4
    1) Fabian CANCELLARA
    2) Lance ARMSTRONG
    3) Alberto CONTADOR
    4) Andréas KLÖDEN
    5) Levi LEIPHEIMER



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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Not a good stage for Cadel...

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by 595149435E3A0 link=1246765769/8#8 date=1247013566
    Not a good stage for Cadel...
    @ stage 4
    Another Australian Michael ROGERS is in 16th place overall

    Cadel Evans is currently 35th place overall

    Dont forget the race goes for 3 weeks and anything can happen

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Stage 5 (196.5 km)
    Le Cap d’Agde >> Perpignan

    Current leader board @ stage 5
    1) Fabian CANCELLARA
    2) Lance ARMSTRONG
    3) Alberto CONTADOR
    4) Andréas KLÖDEN





    Here are some stage 5 smashes & crashes :o
    http://player.sbs.com.au/tdf#/tdf_08/extras/extras/playlist/Stage-5-smashes/

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    I dont think Cadel has the manpower in his team to help him over the Pyrenees, so unless he makes his move soon so that he is on equal footing with the leaders when they hit the foothills, hell have to wait till next year and hopefully hire a better team.

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by 362732342973460 link=1246765769/11#11 date=1247121651
    I dont think Cadel has the manpower in his team to help him over the Pyrenees, so unless he makes his move soon so that he is on equal footing with the leaders when they hit the foothills, hell have to wait till next year and hopefully hire a better team.
    Agreed! I rate Cadel very highly. Followed the Tour in 07 when he finished second. Same old story though. He should have jumped ship when he had the chance! Just doesnt have to the cattle to help him out.

    If Astana can decide who their leader is theyll be close to unstoppable. The Schlek brothers are also in with a big chance. Very wide open tour, but at 3 monutes back it will be very very hard work for our man Cadel!

    Work productivity is normally non existant for the next three weeks!

    Happy viewing (and coffee drinking) to you all!

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Stage 6 Cadel Evans
    Finishes strongly in the front group

    http://player.sbs.com.au/tdf#/tdf_08/interviews/interviews/playlist/Stage-6-Cadel-finishes-strong/

    Current leader board stage 6
    Stage 6 (181.5 km)
    Gérone >> Barcelone
    1. Fabian Cancellara Team Saxo Bank in 19:29:22
    2. Lance Armstrong Astana in 19:29:22
    3. Alberto Contador Astana in 19:29:41 at 00:19
    4. Andréas KlÖden Astana in 19:29:45 at 00:23
    5. Levi Leipheimer Astana in 19:29:53 at 00:31




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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by 597D747477774D597D617F7D120 link=1246765769/1#1 date=1246767023
    Im exited
    KK
    Ah, no mate - your links make it clear youve not left the building!
    ;D
    Typos aside, I reckon Lance will stroll in - lycra intact ... ;)

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Current standings @ stage 7
    Stage 7 (224 km)
    Barcelone >> Andorre Arcalis

    1) Rinaldo NOCENTINI
    2) Alberto CONTADOR
    3) Lance ARMSTRONG
    4) Levi LEIPHEIMER
    5) Bradley WIGGINS

    18) Cadel EVANS
    Evans pushes himself to the limit on Arcalis
    http://player.sbs.com.au/tdf#/tdf_08/interviews/interviews/playlist/Cadel-Evans-attack-nullified/



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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Contador is just a freak. The way he accelerated to break the pack was amazing. Nice to see the young bloke hang on to take the stage, too.

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Current standings @ stage 8
    Stage 8 (176.5 km)
    Andorre-la-Vieille >> Saint-Girons

    1) Rinaldo NOCENTINI
    2) Alberto CONTADOR
    3) Lance ARMSTRONG
    4) Levi LEIPHEIMER
    5) Bradley WIGGINS

    18) Cadel EVANS
    After an early breakaway Evans makes no headway
    http://player.sbs.com.au/tdf#/tdf_08/race_highlights/race_highlights/playlist/Cadel-attempts-a-break-away/

    http://player.sbs.com.au/tdf#/tdf_08/interviews/interviews/playlist/Cadel-attempt-in-vain/



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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Current standings @ stage 9
    Stage 9 (160.5 km)
    Saint-Gaudens >> Tarbes

    1) Rinaldo NOCENTINI
    2) Alberto CONTADOR
    3) Lance ARMSTRONG
    4) Levi LEIPHEIMER
    5) Bradley WIGGINS

    18) Cadel EVANS
    Disappointed that no teams are attacking the leaders
    http://player.sbs.com.au/tdf#/tdf_08/interviews/interviews/playlist/Unproductive-Pyrenees/



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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    A rest day after stage 9 @ the riders needed it :o

    Current standings @ stage 10
    Stage 10 (194.5 km)
    Limoges >> Issoudun

    1) Rinaldo NOCENTINI
    2) Alberto CONTADOR
    3) Lance ARMSTRONG
    4) Andréas KLÖDEN
    5) Levi LEIPHEIMER

    17) Cadel EVANS



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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Its not all fun and games

    Arvesen set to exit Tour with broken collarbone

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    Former Tour de France stage winner Kurt-Asle Arvesen is set to pull out of the race with a suspected broken collarbone after a heavy crash during the 10th stage.

    The 34-year-old Norwegian champion, who won the 11th stage on last years Tour, suffered a heavy crash after 87km trying to avoid a spectator who had fallen into the road

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Current standings @ stage 11
    Stage 11 (192 km)
    Vatan >> Saint-Fargeau

    1) Rinaldo NOCENTINI
    2) Alberto CONTADOR
    3) Lance ARMSTRONG
    4) Levi LEIPHEIMER
    5) Bradley WIGGINS

    18) Cadel EVANS



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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Current standings @ stage 12
    Stage 12 (211.5 km)
    Tonnerre >> Vittel

    1) Rinaldo NOCENTINI
    2) Alberto CONTADOR
    3) Lance ARMSTRONG
    4) Levi LEIPHEIMER
    5) Bradley WIGGINS

    18) Cadel EVANS



    Next stage is the mountain stages & first real test of endurance
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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Current standings @ stage 13
    Stage 13 (200 km)
    Vittel >> Colmar

    1) Rinaldo NOCENTINI
    2) Alberto CONTADOR
    3) Lance ARMSTRONG
    4) Bradley WIGGINS
    5) Andréas KLÖDEN

    17) Cadel EVANS

    Race was ridden in rainy conditions
    Stage winner:
    Haussler rides to maiden Tour stage win

    Australian-born German Heinrich Haussler claimed an emotional stage win at the Tour de France as rainy conditions put a dampener on an anticipated battle for the yellow jersey.



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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Current standings @ stage 14
    Stage 14 (199 km)
    Colmar >> Besançon

    1) Rinaldo NOCENTINI
    2) George HINCAPIE
    3) Alberto CONTADOR
    4) Lance ARMSTRONG
    5) Christophe LE MEVEL

    19) Cadel EVANS

    Ivanov wins an eventful Tour stage

    Russias Sergei Ivanov, riding for the Katusha team, won Saturdays 14th stage of the Tour de France with Rinaldo Nocentini narrowly retaining the overall lead.

    Here is an interview of the past great Phil Anderson (video)
    http://player.sbs.com.au/tdf#/tdf_08/interviews/interviews/playlist/Anderson-s-high-hopes-for-Cadel/

    Cadel is ready to climb (video)
    http://player.sbs.com.au/tdf#/tdf_08/interviews/interviews/playlist/Cadel-ready-to-climb/



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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Current standings @ stage 15

    Stage 15 (207.5 km)
    Pontarlier >> Verbier

    1) Alberto CONTADOR
    2) Lance ARMSTRONG
    3) Bradley WIGGINS
    4) Andréas KLÖDEN
    5) Andy SCHLECK

    14) Cadel EVANS

    * Please note a scheduled rest day before the start of stage 16
    The mountain stages will sort out the men from the boys



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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Current standings @ stage 16
    Stage 16 (159 km)
    Martigny >> Bourg-Saint-Maurice

    1) Alberto CONTADOR
    2) Lance ARMSTRONG
    3) Bradley WIGGINS
    4) Andréas KLÖDEN
    5) Andy SCHLECK

    17) Cadel EVANS

    Cadel Evans may have to much time to make up to get anywhere near the front runners @ 7.23 min behind the leaders



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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Current standings @ stage 17
    Stage 17 (169.5 km)
    Bourg-Saint-Maurice >> Le Grand-Bornand

    1) Alberto CONTADOR
    2) Andy SCHLECK
    3) Frank SCHLECK
    4) Lance ARMSTRONG
    5) Andréas KLÖDEN

    32) Cadel EVANS



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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Cadels a whining little b*tch and I am very glad that he will no longer be the sole leader for SL

    (apologies for the un-australianism)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4B434C4A42181D290 link=1246765769/28#28 date=1248320249
    Cadels a whining little b*tch and I am very glad that he will no longer be the sole leader for SL

    (apologies for the un-australianism)

    Nah, come on, tell us what you really think! ;D

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by 393129233E5A0 link=1246765769/29#29 date=1248324420
    Quote Originally Posted by 4B434C4A42181D290 link=1246765769/28#28 date=1248320249
    Cadels a whining little b*tch and I am very glad that he will no longer be the sole leader for SL

    (apologies for the un-australianism) *

    Nah, come on, tell us what you really think! *;D
    I think Ill stick to the restrained approach. After all, this is a public forum ;)

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by 373F30363E6461550 link=1246765769/28#28 date=1248320249
    Cadels a whining little b*tch and I am very glad that he will no longer be the sole leader for SL

    (apologies for the un-australianism)
    Unless you are a fly on the wall you wont know the full story.

    Current standings @ stage 18 (Individual time trial)
    Stage 18 (40.5 km)
    Annecy >> Annecy

    1) Alberto CONTADOR
    2) Andy SCHLECK
    3) Lance ARMSTRONG
    4) Bradley WIGGINS
    5) Andréas KLÖDEN

    29) Cadel EVANS
    Latest video
    http://player.sbs.com.au/tdf#/tdf_08/race_highlights/race_highlights/playlist/Cadel-time-trial/


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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by 5B7F767675754F5B7F637D7F100 link=1246765769/31#31 date=1248389042
    Quote Originally Posted by 373F30363E6461550 link=1246765769/28#28 date=1248320249
    Cadels a whining little b*tch and I am very glad that he will no longer be the sole leader for SL

    (apologies for the un-australianism) *
    Unless you are a fly on the wall you wont know the full story.

    True, however when you are claiming that you are sick - and this is being utterly refuted by the team boss, you know something is up. And trust me, the rumours going around the tents for years has been exactly what was mentioned above.

    On another note - Contador is more than a man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 747C73757D2722160 link=1246765769/32#32 date=1248389811
    Contador is more than a man!
    What does that mean?
    Does he have "tria arhidia"? :-? (Big Fat Greek Wedding reference)

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by 0C302D363C3D2A3F373C580 link=1246765769/33#33 date=1248392707
    Quote Originally Posted by 747C73757D2722160 link=1246765769/32#32 date=1248389811
    Contador is more than a man! *
    What does that mean?
    Does he have "tria arhidia"? *:-? (Big Fat Greek Wedding reference)
    Haha this is quite funny. Well, I said that he was more than a man this morning due to his quite impressive performance in the time trial last night. Then I jump on the news this morning and Contador is being challenged by LeMond (former French TDF winner) about doping. On his way to winning the stage in the Pyrenees, researchers are suggesting that he would have required a V02 max (oxygen consumption) of 99.5 ml/mn/kg, which has never been achieved before!

    So he is actually more than a man - whether it be by sheer athleticism, or perhaps by the aid of a few pills ;)

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Why dont they drug test the top 4 every day?
    All they have to do is wee into a jar ;)

    It would save all the innuendo that surrounds the sport. :-?

    Just my second crack worth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3F243B3823243F4B0 link=1246765769/35#35 date=1248397691
    Why dont they drug test the top 4 every day?
    How is that fair???????? Youre a sportsman - you should understand that it doesnt matter if youre coming 1000th and you dope - youre still a cheat. Why the top 4?

    I believe random urine samples are taken on every stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21292620287277430 link=1246765769/36#36 date=1248397907
    it doesnt matter if youre coming 1000th and you dope - youre still a cheat.
    Quote Originally Posted by 21292620287277430 link=1246765769/36#36 date=1248397907
    I believe random urine samples are taken on every stage
    I could not agree more.

    In my sport, the top 4 get tested plus a few random tests as well.

    Ive had the doping control officials come to where I work to give me out of competition tests. :-?

    Also, Im in WADAs database, where I have to let them know where I am every day, morning, afternoon and evening. Whats more I need to give them up to 3 months notice to where Ill be!!

    So like you, I hope there is random testing during the TDF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3F243B3823243F4B0 link=1246765769/37#37 date=1248399744
    Quote Originally Posted by 21292620287277430 link=1246765769/36#36 date=1248397907
    it doesnt matter if youre coming 1000th and you dope - youre still a cheat.
    Quote Originally Posted by 21292620287277430 link=1246765769/36#36 date=1248397907
    I believe random urine samples are taken on every stage
    I could not agree more.

    In my sport, the top 4 get tested plus a few random tests as well.

    Ive had the doping control officials come to where I work to give me out of competition tests. :-?

    Also, Im in WADAs database, where I have to let them know where I am every day, morning, afternoon and evening. Whats more I need to give them up to 3 months notice to where Ill be!!

    So like you, I hope there is random testing during the TDF.
    Wow that is quite insane. Well not insane - nice and rigorous! So you have to log in every morning, afternoon and evening??

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    So like you, I hope there is random testing during the TDF.
    I raced a little more than one season as an amateur. At the beginning of teh second season there was one guy who returned about 10 Kgs heavier in muscle. We all knew.

    My vote would be a lifetime ban for the first offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 465D42415A5D46320 link=1246765769/37#37 date=1248399744
    Ive had the doping control officials come to where I work to give me out of competition tests.
    Is caffeine still on the list, Warren? Remember Alex Watson in Seoul?

    "At the 1988 Games in Seoul, Australian Alex Watson failed a urine test which showed he had excessive levels of caffeine in his system.

    Watson was tested during the fencing competition and told the IOC medical commission hearing into the affair that he had drunk 12-15 cups of coffee and two or three cans of Coca-Cola at the venue over the 12 hours of competition.

    This did not satisfy the commission, which disqualified him."

    I know its serious business, but, if it happened to you, you could just point to the VBM, Mazzer, Aeropress, plunger, Kyocera, Hottop and all your other "bits and pieces" and theyd have to let you off. ;D


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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    As an auditor Im all for targeted sampling as well as random.

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    Testing is a joke and is done because its the right thing to be seen to be doing. After the LA games it was reported that over 75% of all athletes had used some form of banned substance in their build up to the games. If this is only 50% accurate then there are alot of very tarnished medals and records out there IMO. I have been tested and competed with many world champions and beleive me I know the majority sailed through the testing looking like Mother Teresa while blatantly laughing in the face of the testing agency.There will always be far more money spent on getting through the testing than actually catching cheats and that is a fact ;)

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    I believe that recently the manufacturers of the original drug substances have been adding identifiable markers that show up in testing

    So if the drug is not detectable due to not knowing what to look for the identifiable markers are, & each specific drug group has its own unique identifiable marker

    Warren (Top Shot) may be able to confirm this development

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    Quote Originally Posted by 516473715C41160 link=1246765769/40#40 date=1248402455
    Is caffeine still on the list, Warren? Remember Alex Watson in Seoul?
    I remember him, caffeine is still tested for. But so long as you are not above a certain concentration, you will not test positive.
    I dont drink coffee before a competition anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6473726C797873272427160 link=1246765769/42#42 date=1248404146
    After the LA games it was reported that over 75% of all athletes had used some form of banned substance in their build up to the games.
    There was a lot of cover up of doping results during the LA games >:(

    Quote Originally Posted by 5D7970707373495D79657B79160 link=1246765769/43#43 date=1248404573
    I believe that recently the manufacturers of the original drug substances have been adding identifiable markers that show up in testing *
    There are rumours about this, I hope its true.

    Quote Originally Posted by 747C73757D2722160 link=1246765769/38#38 date=1248399887
    Wow that is quite insane. Well not insane - nice and rigorous! So you have to log in every morning, afternoon and evening?? *
    I log on when there is a change to what I thought I would be doing or where Im going to be. I fill an electronic form for every quarter.

    All "athletes" ranked in the top ten for their sport are in the same testing pool internationaly for all sports who comply.

    So, if I get a cold for example, I just cant go to the chemist to get something for it. I have to check to make sure it does not conatain any illegal (banned) substances!!

    Life can be fun!!!

    Warren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4E554A4952554E3A0 link=1246765769/44#44 date=1248412736
    So, if I get a cold for example, I just cant go to the chemist to get something for it. I have to check to make sure it does not conatain any illegal (banned) substances!!
    To add to the confusion some of the banned substances mask others thats why cough medicine was commonly quoted as having been taken by (mistake ;)) when found in urine samples when in actual fact this was masking more serious dopping drugs eg: (growth stunting for gymnasts). I am not a gymnast just suffer from the effects, well thats my excuse. ;D

    Thanks for the update Warren :)

    Chris

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    I think we got off track on this thread a bit :o

    When its all said and done the Tour de France is a great sporting event and we should not detract from a lot of great sportspeople.

    The fitness of the competitors is amazing, Ill stick to the laying down in my sport ;)

    Warren.

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Cadel is not whinging today. Actually has gone out and had a crack. About bloody time

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    Pretty hard to have a crack when your team is constantly calling you back.

    I know Cadel has made a few excuses, but the team has let him down once again. Think he will finally get out of his contract and sign with a team that will support him. And hanging out with him in person, hes quite a humble guy, must need a couple of double shots on the tour to calm him down.

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    Re: Tour de France 2009

    Current standings @ stage 19
    Stage 19 (178 km)
    Bourgoin-Jallieu >> Aubena

    1) Alberto CONTADOR
    2) Andy SCHLECK
    3) Lance ARMSTRONG
    4) Bradley WIGGINS
    5) Andréas KLÖDEN

    30) Cadel EVANS



    2 more stages to the end of the race
    KK



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