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    Brewwoman, Brewkids and I went to a fete today, a fundraiser for one of the local primary schools. It was the usual fare, lotsa lollies, fairy-floss, face painting etc. They also had displays/performances from local dance troups, physical culture groups etc. What astounded me was the number large (thats PC for unhealthily overweight) young people there were. More than 50% of the <25 age group were what Id class as plump to seriously overweight. Am I alone at being dismayed by this demographic trend? :o I remember when I was in primary school that there were two children (class of 30) that were not slim - and they copped the proverbial slagging from the rest of us for it.
    I understand as you get old your metabolism changes and it gets harder to stay trim but this is our youth that are, pardon the frankness, fat little buggers!
    The blame cant be laid squarely at the kids youth, there parents need a good kick up the arse. Children will do what you let them and they need parents to set the standard. Or am I just a grouchy middle-aged man?

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    Couldnt agree more, I put it down to the usual lazyness with diet. I have a three year old who eats like a horse but 95% of the time it is good home cooked food and he is "average" weight. I had the same experiences at school with a couple of overweight kids but you look at kids now it is becoming the norm. A very sad state of affairs.

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    If you think the weight is a problem, then start to look at more serious illnesses for a full appreciation of the population changes.

    Eg. When I was in school I knew of ONE kid who had asthma. Now its about 40% of the kids!

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    Couldnt agree more, my wife and i have just lost about 50kg between us and while our kids are not at the overweight level yet, we can easily see how this can quickly occur.
    A family friend has also just lost about 40kg, but what i then found disconcerting was the fact that she could wear her daughters jeans.
    The daughter is 9 years old and the mother is a size 14-16, now tell me thats not obese for a child of that age.
    Being at my kids school on friday i too saw how many of the kids err on the side of big to huge.

    And you can put it all down on their parents willingness to take the easy way out and substitute quality for time easy takeaway, and dont get me started on the quantity, thats an other issue.

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    Re: Weight Australia

    http://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-wins-world-heavyweight-title-20080619-2tfo.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by 7E4B5C5E6E564B5458555D390 link=1253348150/2#2 date=1253352087
    If you think the weight is a problem, then start to look at more serious illnesses for a full appreciation of the population changes.

    Eg. When I was in school I knew of ONE kid who had asthma. Now its about 40% of the kids!

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    We were talking about this with friends the other day - I grew up in the country, ate dirt, rolled in cow poo, swam in stagnant water, ate food I dropped on the ground, as did every other kid I grew up with and only one kid at my school had asthma... We moved to Melbourne in grade 6 and I walked into a school with a sizable number of asthmatics AND in making new friends - a world where kids were required to wash their hands 500 times a day, couldnt touch this, couldnt eat that, couldnt get dirty, ALWAYS had colds and sniffles and had more allergies than you could poke a stick at...

    Now before anyone blames the polluted air in Melbourne - I grew up in the Latrobe Valley, 20 mins walk from a power station, in a region surrounded by open cut mines and power stations...

    Back on topic - Most fat kids are a product of the society of convenience - AKA parental laziness...

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    Back on topic - Most fat kids are a product of the society of convenience - AKA parental laziness...
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    And a lack of exercise. Ive just enrolled my 2 eldest in surf life rescue much to their disgust.......

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    Its all about education folks and empowering the next generations to say "no, I dont want Maccas because it is not good for me!" imagine the burdeon of responsibiliy being placed back on to the parents by the child and the power of that paradigm shift! I work in a bloody terrific Boys school and in my form group there is not one physically inactive boy... And Im a music teacher!!! *But it doesnt stop here... Power up snobs and make a difference. *Leading by example is the best education that you can provide others. *We are so pedantic about our coffee so why not apply that pedentry to healthy quality foods balanced with apprpriate levels of excercise. *Great health means greater enjoyment of life and the finer coffee experiences associated (in our collective case pertaining to this forum). *Power up snobs and lets lead by example! *Who knows, our healthy choices may eve. Provoke our work places into providing coffee that doesnt look like cockroach excrement! ;) *

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    Ha...we were having a similar discussion tonight around the dinner table with friends.

    How now there are heaps of kids with asthma and even peanut allergies...practically unheard of when we were teenagers!

    Also, it was a bit of an eye opener for me last weekend out at a western Sydney event at the amount of overweight adults and children who passed me. They definitely were in the majority.

    To me, its not only diet but also lifestyle. As kids we were never allowed to be idle inside watching the tele. Outside it was! And we were! Riding our bikes all over the neighbourhood, playing all sorts of things outdoors, just generally being hugely active. Now, kids have to have game consoles invented that require them to stand up and get off the couch.

    Heres a tip...DONT BUY THEM A GAME CONSOLE IN THE FIRST PLACE! *::) :-?

    Heres another tip...When playing sport...dont BUY THEM A MACCAS MEAL AFTERWARDS!

    And one more...WALKING THROUGH A SHOPPING MALL IS NOT EXERCISE ENOUGH!! (because mainly it means reaching the donut shop at the end...)

    Ive got a few more tips if anyone needs them... ;D ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33232F2F34211F27212C400 link=1253348150/8#8 date=1253366527
    Heres a tip...DONT BUY THEM A GAME CONSOLE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
    Im with you Scoota, I refuse to outlay hundreds of dollars for a WII & WII sport how ridiculous is that? Why not exercise outside in the fresh air, not in front of the tv???????????????
    We limit tv intake in our house, pc time has to be earnt in the form of chores. Evidently, Im the most evil mum in the world ;D ;D ;D

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    My tip: move the TV out of the main living area. Ours now resides in the toy room and that is what it is, something to be used occasionally for entertainment.

    We had each lost about 10 kg last summer and now... :( winter has been our undoing and we need to get back into our fitness regime.

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    There was a TV show on here recently, the politically incorrect guide to parenting, run by a kids psychologist that whilst being very funny, was also very pointed at many of todays "problems"

    Weight challenged kids - Blame lies squarely with the parents whom provide access to all the unhealthy food etc. If kids are "fussy eaters" his philosophy was simple, dont give them choices. Basic fundamental, hungry kids will eat. Simply re-present the healthy option and eventually they will give in.

    Its being released on DVD in NZ in October, dont know if it will be available or not in Aus, but if it is, its well worth a watch.

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    Im going to weigh in both sides of the argument here, both as a person and a parent.

    I also have noticed a huge increase in overweight kids in the past decade or so - I was a big child when in Primary and High School: thanks mostly to my great grandmother whose bones I inherited but who was around 6 as opposed to my 54" - I have the hugest ankle bones and have never ever found an anklet to fit in all my years but the advantage was, Ive never broken a bone in my life despite being in situations where I really should have.

    When I was in school between 1974 and 1984, I was teased for being a fatty and I definitely wasnt the norm. Nowdays, in comparison, I would have been considered on the slimmer side and Ive seen a lot of kids who are bigger than I was at their age and who dont get teased because its not so unaverage any more.

    Yes, I believe it has to do with parents - what they are feeding their children (disclaimer below), what they are pushing their children to do exercise wise and the example they are setting them.

    18 months ago, I started doing tap dancing - I am now doing it four times a week and have lost about a stone and a half in that 18 months without dieting whatsoever and despite taking on a full cream latte addiction - Id probably have lost a lot more if I didnt drink so much but - at 40 years - I dont care so much about how I look, as to how I feel and how happy I am. My children are also reasonably active as a result of the example I am showing them.

    Now, the disclaimer part. I dont think so much of it has to do with what the children are eating. When I was a kid, I had a very high fat diet, none of this nutrasweet / low fat crap in our household. We ate three meals a day, with our largest being at nightime (bad, according to the rules nowdays), and it was mostly meat and three veg. Mashed potato was made with a slab of butter and milk added, steak was cooked in butter, corn had butter added, sugar was always added to cereals, etc, etc. My brothers were both whippets (I was the only one who had inherited the large bones). But no one could ever accuse our diet of being low fat and overly healthy by todays standards.

    The difference was that we spent the majority of our day outside - riding our pushbikes (we rode them everywhere), playing kiss chasey, hiding in the drains, etc. Mum didnt really see us between the hours of 6.00am and 6.00pm when it was time for dinner. So, while our diet wasnt necessarily great, we worked off the majority of what we ate with play.

    BUT talking as a parent now.

    Living in the suburbs of a city, I cant send my kids outside like we used to as kids.

    People drive down our street like hoons doing 70km in a 50km zone, weve no easy access to a park or land that the kids could walk to and play in even if, God forbid, I thought it was safe enough for them to walk to by themselves and not get run over.

    Peter and I work from 7.30am unti 4.30pm and live 30 minutes away from work so by the time we drop kids off at care and pick them up, we have a grand total of about 30 minutes of daylight left (in the middle of winter, its dark by the time we get home at 5.15pm). Emily, in Grade 2, has more homework than I got when I was in Grade 6 so there goes that 30 minutes of daylight.

    So, while we kick them into the back yard to play as much as we can, there is only so much you can do with limited light left.

    Emily does dancing twice a week, which helps in the exercise stakes, in addition to what they do at school.

    Fortunately, I was lucky in that my two are taking after Peter in height (who is 64") so neither have issues or are likely to have issues with weight at all. This is pure luck, though, and in different circumstances, they probably could have problems.

    So, looking at it from both sides of the fence, yes its the parents fault but sometimes its not that easy being a parent in surburbia nowdays... now if everyone drove responsibly and slowed down to 50 in the 50km zones and concentrated on what was around them, rather than talking / texting on mobile phones, gazing at their GPSs and listening to blaring music - none of which were around when I was a kid - then I might feel it was safer to send the kids out on their bikes by themselves and kick them off their PS2 or from out in front of the telly, but until theres a HUGE shift in drivers attitudes, thats not going to happen unfortunately.

    My 1.75 cents worth (after tax)

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    I agree times have changed since I was growing up and we never let our two play unsupervised in the front yard so it was the back or nothing.

    Too many strange people in the world these days I think to be letting kids roam the streets.

    My youngest had a fair bit of puppy fat and her brother was lucky to not.

    They both were forced into karate when they were about 6 and 9.

    As they eventually got to like karate they got more and more into it until when they were training for their black belts they were doing 6 lessons a week.

    My daughter has since changed sports and is even fitter now than when she gained her black belt and no one would ever think shed been chubby.

    My son is still fairly healthy even though he only comes to karate when I need an extra hand; but has recently gone back to the gym.

    Maybe they were lucky their dad was the karate teacher but I have a couple parents now, and have had before, that bring their kids.
    In some cases its an excuse for them to train too.

    I think more parents could do a sport with their kids and not all sports need to be outside in the sunlight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4B6C7A6870030 link=1253348150/12#12 date=1253678084
    People drive down our street like hoons doing 70km in a 50km zone
    No wonder so many kids are fat.

    40kph school zones dont encourage them to be nimble.

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    >:(

    ;D ;D ;D

    Dont forget that youre close enough for me to drive down there, and youre not that big that I cant still put you over my knee and smack you, young man!!!

    Hey, works for my mum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4E6F646463790A0 link=1253348150/14#14 date=1253707147
    Quote Originally Posted by 4B6C7A6870030 link=1253348150/12#12 date=1253678084
    People drive down our street like hoons doing 70km in a 50km zone
    No wonder so many kids are fat. *

    40kph school zones dont encourage them to be nimble.

    (Only jokin)
    giggled like a schoolgirl...

    Full time grazing and snake foods in front of the TV and or at the PC... *= *Un healthy... *

    Ya sure some can get away with it... And some say it society....

    People will not walk a flight of stairs and still scoff a LARGE bucket of chips and Gravy and then a couple of Diet cokes to make them selves better..

    We have take away about once every 2 to 3 months if both of us are out of action... * Other than that it is home cooked and we all eat at the table.. No TV etc... *Many others that visit.. Have no concept of Meat and 3 Veges *:o *Or what it is like to eat at a table... *Chips and snake food = Fresh veggies or Coffee * ;D * They just look at U like ya mad...

    I say remove all the warning signs, stop the legal crap and blaming others.. *

    Shortly afterwards, the problem will start to solve its self.. *Darwin Theory...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7A5B5050574D3E0 link=1253348150/14#14 date=1253707147
    No wonder so many kids are fat.

    40kph school zones dont encourage them to be nimble.
    Not entirely sure youre wrong though Dennis. I remember at primary school we used to have a wooden "wall" in the playground that designed to be climbed. Like an A frame, but more of an I frame in design. We used to climb up it, stand on the top, get our mates to throw so decent sized sticks up and then "battle" to see who could knock the other one off first. Boys very quickly it was smarter to jump off rather than try to jump up to dodge a low blow, as a misjudged landing was....painful. The girls learnt how much fun it was to throw rocks at us during a match to try and knock us off while not paying attention. Lots of fun all round, and many of us ended up richer due to increased business with the tooth fairy ;)

    Did anyone see the Kids Edition of the New Inventors? They had a section talking about circus acts, and how they were based off playground seesaws, wizzy dizzys, swings and climbing ropes. To the best of my knowledge, wizzy dizzys & cimbling ropes are already banned, with some people wanting seesaws out too because fingers can get caught in them *:o

    Perhaps we need to learn from the feminists of the past, and burn the cottonwool wrapping that society wants on children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 272D2E252238352029224C0 link=1253348150/17#17 date=1253756361
    Not entirely sure youre wrong though Dennis. I remember at primary school
    Well, since were getting nostalgic, I went to primary school in HMAS Jervis Bay (naval college).

    There was only one bus to school and one bus home. If I missed the bus, I walked home - a two mile hike (3k to the rest of you) through the naval college and along the beach to Hyams Beach (the whitest sand in the world).
    Always took a cut-lunch to school. No pies, soft drink and chips (but I envied the kids who did get it but would they share...bastards!)

    When I started to go to high school, we had to catch the bus from the Hyams Beach turn-off as the old bus couldnt make it up the hill; about a mile walk. Sometimes we would hitch a ride with the milko. One morning he stopped off to drop off some milk and the lady who came to get it was weraing the sheerest neg...never mind, sorry got carried away for a minute. *8-)

    Nostalgia aint what it used to be.

    Yes, kids have got it too easy these days *;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2A203522222D393F4C0 link=1253348150/18#18 date=1253761384
    One morning he stopped off to drop off some milk and the lady who came to get it was weraing the sheerest neg
    Did you have to walk to the turn-off from there?...... ;D

    P.S. Had a Xmas holiday at Hyams about 10 years ago... Very nice place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 405B5244474A330 link=1253348150/19#19 date=1253767253
    Did you have to walk to the turn-off from there?......
    Well no, but I imagine there would have been some ...errr.. temporary difficulties if I did; turn-off is probably not the appropriate term in a another context ;)

    Anyway, back on on-topic ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 303A2F3838372325560 link=1253348150/18#18 date=1253761384
    When I started to go to high school, we had to catch the bus from the Hyams Beach turn-off as the old bus couldnt make it up the hill; *
    Im feeling like this is a bit Monty Pythonish...however...

    I remember when our bus broke down going up a hill and the bus driver had all us kids out at the back of it trying to push it up to the top. In the end, we gave up and everyone walked home... ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 41515D5D46536D55535E320 link=1253348150/21#21 date=1253781244
    all us kids out at the back of it trying to push it up to the top
    Luxury! ;D
    Our bus company cut holes in the floor so we traveled to school Flintstones style.
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