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    Dear environmental vandal

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    My close mate for many years.... With a string of Qualifications.. Electronics/IT, 2 x Phds in teh making and working on nural networks and the cochlea ear stuff... sent me this..

    ROF... Not sure if I should cry or laugh...


    Dear environmental vandal

    Take coffee.

    Its vendors are in the vanguard of those promoting more "sustainable" products, with organic and fair trade options now widely available. Starbucks even boasts a programme it calls Shared PlanetTM programme - the irony of that trademark appears to be lost on them - which has the declared aim of minimising the companys environmental impact and increasing involvement with local communities.

    Thats no bad thing, as far as it goes: fair trade can help to stop the exploitation of farmers, and buying organic may ensure more sustainable production techniques. But the average cup of black filter coffee is still responsible for 125 grams of CO2 emissions. Of this, two-thirds comes from production and most of the rest from brewing.

    Opting for the more prosaic joys of instant coffee reduces that figure to around 80 grams. Yet that still means a six-a-day caffeine habit clocks up more than 175 kilograms of CO2 each year. Thats the equivalent of a flight across Europe - from London to Rome, say. Add milk, and the methane belched by dairy cows means you increase your coffees climate-changing emissions by more than a third.

    175 kilograms The annual CO2 emission of a six-a-day coffee habit. Equivalent to a single flight between London and Rome. It doesnt end there, though. The environmental group WWF has calculated that it takes 200 litres of water to produce the coffee, milk, sugar and cup for just one regular takeout latte. So if everyone ditched their pre-work coffee fix that would do wonders for the planet.

    Best regards, Geoff
    Instant coffee forever ... I can recommend International Roast ...
    Smooth and satisfying, just like me (just ask the wife)


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    Re: Dear environmental vandal

    just typing this post added to CO2 emissions ...............

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    Re: Dear environmental vandal

    Well well well, that is disturbing........let me think about that for a bit, over a brew, its ok though, i feed our roses with spent pucks, do i get carbon credits for that, maybe i could buy some credits on ebay to offset my obsession? the missus would find that hard to swallow id say.......i know what ya saying AM, dont know whether to laugh of cringe....... :o

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    Re: Dear environmental vandal

    Quote Originally Posted by 666A636E6E670B0 link=1259730713/1#1 date=1259731165
    just typing this post added to CO2 emissions ...............
    its ok mate, just delete the post, and all will be returned to mother earth ;D

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    Re: Dear environmental vandal

    sadly i have been watching a series on the ABC (maybe SBS?) about money / capitalism / PEAK oil, food, resources / global warming etc etc

    it really seems we are stuffed, Copenhagen, mr Rudd and mr Abbot are sure not going to be able to help much..........

    I started thinking of ways that I may be able to lessen the blow for my 3yr old into the future. But I am not sure anything can be done that will have much effect.

    time will tell

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    Re: Dear environmental vandal

    Everyone should do your own research

    Find information on harry read me on the flawed data program

    Here are some articles:
    http://losangelespublicrelations.com/harry-read-me/02250

    http://theenergycollective.com/TheEnergyCollective/52572

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16321

    KK

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    Re: Dear environmental vandal


    Hey AM, your friend may be much more intelligent than me but wonder if hes smart?

    Dont know about the CO2 emissions but in regards to water....

    Water is not a renewable source. Americans alone reportedly drink 400 million coffees a year (and I suspect they are usually big ones!). So if it take 200 litres to make just one cup, then it would take just 80,000,000,000 litres of water a year to quench Americas thirst for coffee.

    We have about 1,260,000,000,000,000,000,000 litres of water on the planet - give or take a few litres. Only 2.5% or so of that is fresh.

    And guess what? The amount of water is the same now as it was in the beginning. Water is an everlasting source. You, I, and the guy with the 2 PhDs are drinking the same water that the caveman did. Go ahead...ask him...Im sure hell confirm!

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    Re: Dear environmental vandal

    Quote Originally Posted by 76575C5C5B41320 link=1259730713/6#6 date=1259733732
    Hey AM, your friend may be much more intelligent than me but wonder if hes smart?

    Dont know about the CO2 emissions but in regards to water....

    Water is not a renewable source. *Americans alone reportedly drink 400 million coffees a year (and I suspect they are usually big ones!). *So if it take 200 litres to make just one cup, then it would take just 80,000,000,000 litres of water a year to quench Americas thirst for coffee.

    We have about 1,260,000,000,000,000,000,000 litres of water on the planet - give or take a few litres. Only 2.5% or so of that is fresh.

    And guess what? *The amount of water is the same now as it was in the beginning. *Water is an everlasting source. *You, I, and the guy with the 2 PhDs are drinking the same water that the caveman did. *Go ahead...ask him...Im sure hell confirm!

    :)



    I would suggest he is just taking the PISS... He knows I am coffee mad and always has a laugh at me and the preesso when we go fishing etc

    He also only buys little tins of IR as even he admits it goes stale when exposed to the air and moisture...


    Quote Originally Posted by 735C5557407F535C5355575F575C46320 link=1259730713/0#0 date=1259730713
    Best regards, *Geoff
    Instant coffee forever ... I can recommend International Roast ...
    Smooth and satisfying, just like me (just ask the wife)

    As for how smooth he is... Umm suggest he is waiting for Christmas as he missed out on his birthday..

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    Re: Dear environmental vandal

    Ill propose it takes a shedload more CO2 to make the tin for his International Roast that it does to make a burlap/cotton sack for my beans.

    Mining the ore, transport to the processing plant, transport, smelting, transport, forming, transport yet again....etc.


    Epic76.....laying carbon trails in the sky, 2 contrails at a time

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    Re: Dear environmental vandal

    You, I, and the guy with the 2 PhDs are drinking the same water that the caveman did.

    I think I read somewhere that Adelaide is downstream from Canberra.
    Guess what they are drinking?

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    Re: Dear environmental vandal

    I cannot imagine the amount of methane that has been emitted by this post - I have never heard so much S#$t ;D ;D

    everything we eat and drink causes cancer and emits CO2 when we die our body releases toxic heavy metals in to the ground. The mere digging of a grave would create so much CO2 that it is probably worth two or three trees just to bury us.

    So the way I read it I cannot afford to die as this would just cause to much pollution. So I will just drink more coffee to limit my impact. As the more I drink at home the less fuel I burn going to a Coffee Shop. Thus I am saving the planet by staying at home consuming caffeine, not fossil fuels, which is Fair Crack and Organic so I help the farmers and the environment. 8-)

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    Re: Dear environmental vandal

    You need to point out to your mate that by promoting instant he is killing Tigers.

    Also from the WWF http://wwf.org.au/news/illegal-coffe...tiger-habitat/.

    Perhaps at the WWF they only drink tea?



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