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    We want to get a machine/grinder combo but what do I do first the training or get the machine/grinder? And with the training, I live in woop woop, so its not worth travelling just for a 2-3 hour course or is it? Any suggestions or advise?

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    Training first! The training will provide you with tonnes of info on whats hot and whats not, you will be well informed to make the right decision ;)

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    Alternately, both together...

    You call, we chat, you drive, you buy, we train 8-)

    Happy to assist if I can...At least, were in the same state ;-)

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    Research first (HERE OF COURSE), contact the site sponsors who from my experience will definitely recommend a machine to suit YOUR needs and not theirs. They will then train and support you with your machine.
    Thats what I did and it worked for me :)

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    Warren (wsully) makes a good case but as youre in Woop Woop (nice part of the world, that) so no doubt only want to limit travel.

    Depending on what machine you intend to buy I would say machine first and then get trained on the machine.

    Decide what machine + grinder you want then order. I recommend something tried and trusted (such as an ..eerrr...Giotto Premium Plus *8-) *;) ) Pick it up from the sponsor and book them to train you on it in their shop for an hour or so. Once you get the basics, its just practice.

    Contact a sponsor; not sure which is closer but Graham from Euro (Batemans Bay NSW) might even be closer than Melbourne (but if you are quick, you could grab one of Talk Coffees Diadema specials.)

    Edit: What Chris said ;)

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    1. Do your research here until you have a short list in your price range.

    2. Book a time with a sponsor to try, buy, train.

    3. Practice at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1422312634332E470 link=1263968565/0#0 date=1263968565
    We want to get a machine/grinder combo but what do I do first the training or get the machine/grinder? And with the training, I live in woop woop, so its not worth traveling just for a 2-3 hour course or is it? Any suggestions or advise? *

    Get the machine and grinder with a mini-course at time of buying - then practice for a few weeks and book a more intensive course. If you live in woop woop it would pay to buy from a site sponsor so that you can get good solid customer support. *;) And yes - it is worth travelling for! 8- :)

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    I suppose it depends on how far you have to travel to get training......and what that training cse actually is......, depends on your budget for the combo, depends on heaps of stuff, i was just saying that the training(if professional)will see you most likely training on machinery that is worth big $$$, it may impact your decision if you were looking to save a few bucks, and it may help you avoid upgraditis.

    Getting in contact with one of the sponsors on the left over there, they are all here for the enjoyment not for $$$, they will give you their expert advice, and that wont always include them making a sale, they are good, its not common these days ;)

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    I did a course to help decide what I wanted in equipment as well as to learn the basics.
    Two days later I joined Coffee Snobs and did a lot of reading.

    Within a few weeks, and after talking to one of the sponsors (Talk Coffee as a matter of fact) I had decided on my machine and grinder and Ive had good coffee since.

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    Hi everyone,

    Thanks for all the replies :) Ive been a floater here for a while and have been learning heaps. Living in the country, I find that expressos are either fantastic - so much I want to take a photo but think that might scare people so just tell the barista how good the coffee is, or really really bad. In which case I look for the nearest pot plant and try and figure out what went wrong. That is where this site is great.

    Ive also been cruising the site sponsors, one of which in particular comes up with regularity when good coffee is to be had in my neck of the woods.

    Thinking of going down the Giotto/Mazer path. But that is just one path and am happy to consider others. I know it will be $$$

    My part of woop woop is on the NSW?VIC border so NSW or VIC isnt isnt a prob.

    So I think, then that Greg sums it but not sure what other alternatives to the one I already have.

    Cheers


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    Quote Originally Posted by 596F7C6B797E630A0 link=1263968565/9#9 date=1264019390
    so much I want to take a photo but think that might scare people
    I take photos all the time.

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    Really Thundergod ? I may have to rethink that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 596F7C6B797E630A0 link=1263968565/9#9 date=1264019390
    Thinking of going down the Giotto/Mazer path
    Its a great path!

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    Any other ideas though?

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    OK, have you made shortlist yet? You seem to indicate you want an HX and matching grinder but there are several criteria that you need to consider. Not considering budget, think about:

    - amount and type of coffee you would like. If you are likely to prepare several milk-based drinks at a time, you might want something with a larger boiler.

    - size: is there anything about the geography of your kitchen that will limit your choices such as amount of available space.

    - appearance: what look would you like to have?

    - function: all HXs are fairly much the same but would you prefer a manual lever machine or a semi-automatic volumetric kind for push button ease of use.

    - service: at some stage your machine will need servicing. Buying one for which parts are readily available is a consideration. This shouldnt be a problem for most espresso machines.

    It definitely sounds like youll need to prepare a trip to the big smoke and visit a showroom with various machines on display. Be warned, this may create confusion as well as all the stainless steel bling tends to have a dazzling effect.

    To me it came down to function and reliability. The GPP I bought ticked those boxes but it wasnt my number one choice on looks. The real deal maker for me was price as Dennis *(Cuppacoffee, Sydney agent for Talk Coffee) quoted a price Id have been silly to turn down. It was the right choice.

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    Thanks for the reply Flynn,

    The unit will be for home use, I guess you could say I am a keen enthusiast. My husband leaves the coffee to me, as he drinks "extra froffy milk cappucinos" and never seems to have a problem even at places where I am looking for the nearest pot plant. All our friends and family drink milk based coffees except for me.

    The kitchen is small so space will be an issue, and look well I admit to being superfical in that regard but that will need to be balanced out by price and reliability/functionality which are more important.

    So with these questions, I think we will plan a trip to Melbourne. I think servicing will be easier from there than from Sydney somehow.

    Thanks for the advise



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