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    Are chemists really typists?

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    Not sure whether Im totally correct, but this is my observation...

    Pharmacists, or chemists as we generically call them, go to university, do a lot of studying about chemicals, atomic valencies, compounds, mixtures, diatomic molecules and elements...

    Only to end up behind the counter typing a label to stick on medication made and packaged by multinationals. *Does that reallyneed a uni degree? *:-/

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    Re: Are chemists really typists?

    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1183623750/0#0 date=1183623749
    Not sure whether Im totally correct, but this is my observation...

    Pharmacists, or chemists as we generically call them, go to university, do a lot of studying about chemicals, atomic valencies, compounds, mixtures, diatomic molecules and elements...

    Only to end up behind the counter typing a label to stick on medication made and packaged by multinationals. Does that reallyneed a uni degree? :-/

    --Robusto
    Hi Robusto

    When I was a lad my father told me that Pharmacists dispensed medicine whilst Chemists created it! I still remember going to the local Chemist and watching him concoct his own special cough mixture from a combination of ingredients. The place was somewhat like a science lab. Ah, those were the days!

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    Re: Are chemists really typists?

    Pharmacists still mix some medications - especially those in hospitals who prepare IV medications.

    As a nurse working in hospitals I myself also mixed up medications that came as powders to which we added sterile water or saline to mix it up just before administering. This is because some medications, once they have liquid added have a very low shelf life or are very light sensitive and need to be administered in a certain amount of time.

    The most common of these are some chemotherapy medications and penicillin based antibiotics.

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    Re: Are chemists really typists?

    Dont forget Robusto, they read you the instructions before they hand them over.

    @Dennis - I remember seeing some old jars decorating a chemist shop in Italy a few years ago that must have been originally used for just what you described.

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    Re: Are chemists really typists?

    I think the primary learning undertaken by under-graduate Pharmacists is to learn the black art of deciphering the hand-writing of Doctors.
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    Re: Are chemists really typists?

    I had a laugh there arent many doctors who hand write anymore...its all computerised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes link=1183623750/0#5 date=1183634403
    I had a laugh there arent many doctors who hand write anymore...its all computerised.
    And its a jolly good thing too. Many people have become very ill and died due to the wrong interpretation of a prescription by pharmacists and other medical staff.

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    Re: Are chemists really typists?

    I vaguely remember an old joke about the difference between Doctors and Vets, which went something along the lines of.....

    Who would you rather go to if you were sick,
    Well when you go to a doctor he asks you whats wrong?...
    When you go to a vet he takes a look at you, or your pet, and tells you whats wrong....!

    Now getting back on track, He then dispenses the appropriate medication!...usually pre-packaged, and yes with a typed label.

    Our vet was also very useful for getting our passports...

    Thanks Robusto for drawing our attention to this interesting deviation.

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    Re: Are chemists really typists?

    Another thing that Pharmacists need, is the knowledge to know if certain medicatons will interact with medication that the patient is currently taking. To do this they need an understanding of what the Chemists specifications for a drug are.

    Edit: In my local chemist, there is one Pharmacist and 2 or 3 assistants. The assistants under the guidance of the Pharmacist , label the medication. The Pharmacist also answers questions about the medications other than that found on the "instruction sheet".

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    Re: Are chemists really typists?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boldor link=1183623750/0#8 date=1183686448
    Another thing that Pharmacists need, is the knowledge to know if certain medicatons will interact with medication that the patient is currently taking. To do this they need an understanding of what the Chemists specifications for a drug are.
    If that were the case Boldor, thered be a lot of angry doctors out there, justifiably angry if chemists started second-guessing their prescriptions.

    Doctors prescribe, chemists dispense.

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    Re: Are chemists really typists?

    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1183623750/0#9 date=1183730400

    If that were the case Boldor, thered be a lot of angry doctors out there, justifiably angry if chemists started second-guessing their prescriptions.

    Doctors prescribe, chemists dispense.

    --Robusto
    Im not saying that they are second guessing the doctors prescription. Ask any doctor what the side effects and drug interactions for a specific drug is and they will need to ask a chemist/Pharmacist.

    What I am saying is that a Pharmacist has a better understanding of how different drugs can interact, if for some reason you dont go to the same GP time after time, there is chance that the GP will not be fully aware of all the medications you are on. Thats where the chemist/pharmacist comes in. A good Pharmacist will ask about other medications for something as simple as panadol.

    Also some prescription drugs dont go well with natural therapies and I know my Pharmacist askes about any natural remedies you are using in case they will effect the drugs ability to do its intended job.

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    Re: Are chemists really typists?

    Yes, very true.....

    But it would be totally irresponsible and potentially fatal if a doctor was unaware or did not take into account all you have mentioned. Not to mention exposing themselves to malpractice suits.

    .... One would not prescribe anti-inflammatory NSAIDS drugs like Celebrex if the patient were also taking aspirin.

    The pharmacist may have well a better understanding of the chemical interraction.

    But knowing that drug A cannot be taken with drug B is a very necessary knowledge of doctors who must make that judgement at the time of the consultation and prescription. Before the shopping strip chemist enters the picture.

    Only doctors can prescribe medication after all.

    --Robusto


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    Re: Are chemists really typists?

    But dont forget there are many medications that dont require a prescription, but are "pharmacist only" medicines issued over the counter.

    Not to mention the stuff on the shelves and natural remedies.





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