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    Well,

    I am back after losing a whole day to migraine. Unlike others, Im fortunate as I only get a couple a year, but when they do happen, they are totally incapacitating.

    5am Saturday I had a nasty headache, took some painkillers, woke at 7 feeling crappy and by 9am it was full blown: pain, nausea and vomiting every 20min right through to 6pm and then still decidely average at 10.30 pm...

    For me, its not chocolate or red wine. It can sometimes be day 1 after a stressful period- but not this time. There was just no reason....

    I have tried Imigran with some success but otherwise just the usual regime of painkillers etc. I hear that some are experimenting with Botox, but I reckon I have better places to put it if I wanted to go down that path *;)...

    So, do you get them and have you found anything that works for you?

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    Hi Chris,

    Sorry to hear that youve been crook mate :(, Migraines are bloody terrible things.... My sister suffers from them quite regularly too unfortunately. Have you come across this informative website.....http://www.migraine-disability.net Probably just trying to teach you how to suck eggs but there is some useful info in there.

    Hope youre fully recovered ASAP mate :), all the best,

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    Oh how awful Chris. These are an extremely rare event for me now and nowhere near as bad as when I was growing up (all of your descriptors, daily meds, 36 hours sleep during and afterward, etc.).

    I have found darkness to be most helpful, but that is probably a given, as would eliminating any organic issues. Things I have found to be helpful:

    Wearing sunnies every time you go outside
    Regular, restful sleep at night
    Alternative therapies might provide relief eg. have someone apply pressure between thumb and index finger; a little tiger balm on the temples; a cold shower; meditation

    take care

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    I also had migraines on a regular basis.

    I found most but not all were triggered by red wine, sometimes only one small glass was enough - thus no more red wine.

    However when I finally went to a doc, he found my blood pressure was 240 / 150 or roughly double what it should have been. Now on regular BP medication which controls it.

    Just saying that there are many causes of migraines and if anyone gets them frequently then go get medical advice to find the underlying cause.

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    Lordy Jeff - its a wonder you didnt pop :o

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    2 x panadeine forte and bed. That is the only way I can deal with them.

    I dont get the blasted things as often as I used to, but I know that if i do not eat regularly then i am in for it. Especially if I skip breakfast.

    The same with my Aunt and cousin. Oranges sets of my Aunt and Red wine sets of my cousin.

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    Last one I had was 3 weeks ago, whole day of vomiting every 20mins followed by intense cold shivers. No medication works, just let it take its course. After finally sleeping large amounts of vegimite on toast seemed to stabilise me!
    Plus working for who I work for doesnt help much :D

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    Plenty of water, & lying down in a dark room with a wet cloth on the forehead I find helps

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    bag of frozen peas on the back of the neck too I forgot to mention

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    Had a migraine once and took 4 aspros, 4 nurofen and 4 panadols in a 2 hour period.

    Didnt work so I just put up with it till it went.

    One Mersyndol does the trick for me now - just leaves me feeling dopier than usual (ha ha Sullo beat you to it mate).

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    I had a laugh was thinking that.... :)
    4 digesic did the trick for me last night to get some sleep :)
    Im averaging 3-4hrs per day at present :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullo link=1194102477/0#6 date=1194142333
    Plus working for who I work for doesnt help much :D
    You dont work for John Howard do you?

    Just looking at that main gives me a migraine!

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    My 15 yo son suffers from them a few times a year, usually during school holidays when hes been up all night on the computer and sleeping all day. He gets the eye and fingers aura thing, then the headache, vomits afer a couple of hours then sleeps. After that hes better, though still unwell for the rest of the day. Imigran helps a little, but doesnt stop the migraine, so its generally a combination of panadol and nurofen. He got one on Saturday and, after some thought, I gave him one of my post op opiate-type painkillers to see if that would help (his doctor will kill me, I know, but he was in pain and I had them....) They were funny - put him straight to sleep, as I expected, but when he woke up the migraine just picked up where it had left off, so all we did was postpone it all.

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    Im still waiting for my migraine to turn 18 and leave the house :)

    On a more serious note I grew up in South Africa as a doctors son and I remember my father having a commercially available "migraine kit" it consisted of a gadget which housed the medicine and a needle. A bit like those once off DIY injectables you can buy. Anyway when he had a migraine one shot from this was enough to have him fighting fit again in under 30min. Dont know if they are available here and will probably require a pescrition, but they seemed to be a very good thing to have on standby.

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    sounds like an epipen, my son has one he carrys everywhere, if his breathing becomes difficult, stab his thigh with it and race to hostibubble.
    and cindy who i work for is worse then howard... :(

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    Sorry to sound like the nag, but PLEASE see a Dr if you get bad migranes! (OMG Jeff!!! Im so glad you did!). Also, please dont OD on paracetamol and the other over the counters; they can do serious damage. If theyre not adequate at an appropriate dose, see a Doctor and find a prescription drug that will work for you. Pretty Please. Thats my nagging over! :)

    On a lighter note, (and this info might be out of date and not applicable to Australia, Harrisons 16th ed. p. 91), the FDA have approved the combination of acetaminophen, aspirin and CAFFEINE for the treatment of mild to moderate migraine. hmm.

    Anthonyd, I agree Sullo, that sounds like an EpiPen. They have adrenaline in them and are used for anaphalaxis (e.g. a life-threatening reaction to things like a bee sting )...i dont think they are used for migraines though.

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    Thanks to everyone for all the great info.

    I have received a few excellent tips via PM and here as well and have also made an appointment with a CSer neurologist who knows a heap about migraine as well.

    At least I have a few more options now- which is great to know....

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullo link=1194102477/0#14 date=1194231590
    sounds like an epipen, my son has one he carrys everywhere, if his breathing becomes difficult, stab his thigh with it and race to hostibubble.
    and cindy who i work for is worse then howard... :(

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    Jonesey or Johnny??

    Nar, Sullo and I work for the same boss and we call him Singlet.

    Or Adolf if he is in a particularly bad mood.

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    Luckily I do not suffer from migraine. But a friend who does -- almost daily --- had only one remedy: the Imigran Chris mentioned.

    The tablets used to cost about $35 EACH. So, four or so a week and you can imagine what the bill came to.

    Its now on the national health scheme at an affordable price.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy link=1194102477/15#15 date=1194234342
    Anthonyd, I agree Sullo, that sounds like an EpiPen. They have adrenaline in them and are used for anaphalaxis (e.g. a life-threatening reaction to things like a bee sting )...i dont think they are used for migraines though.
    Sounds like it may be similar delivery method (ie easy to use self injectable) but this was specfically for migraines, not anythign else. As i said it was in South Africa so might not be available here.

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    On a lighter note, (and this info might be out of date and not applicable to Australia, Harrisons 16th ed. p. 91), the FDA have approved the combination of acetaminophen, aspirin and CAFFEINE for the treatment of mild to moderate migraine.
    WOW. I was waiting for someone to suggest that Chris skip coffee for a while (good luck) and then Sammy posts that if could be the cure.
    I wonder if Starbucks sponsored the research?

    ;)


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman link=1194102477/0#0 date=1194102477

    So, do you get them and have you found anything that works for you?
    Hey Chris, sorry to hear of yours (and others) migraines, I know just how undescribable the pain is *:o

    Up until a couple of years ago, I used to get migraines as often as three times per week - treating it with ice and sleep seemed to work best for me (kind of like hitting Cntrl+Alt & Delete buttons on a PC *:))

    After years of suffering, I was at a social function when a Naturopath suggested that I take Magnesium supplements. *Although I was initially skeptical, I was amazed at the difference they have since made (I very rarely get them now - maybe one or two a year, and usually only if I allow myself to get dehydrated).

    After a bit more reading on the subject, I was able to put 2 + 2 together to finally arrive at "4" - apparently, caffeine can deplete Magnesium in the body, while Magnesium helps to regulate bloodflow/circulation (and thats what screws up in your head when you have a migraine).

    Anyhow, see how you go. *Like I said, this is more on the prevention side of things rather than than the treatment, but I hope it make as big a difference to you as it did to me!

    Cheers,

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    How does a spoonfull of magnesium supplement instead of sugar go in a piccolo ? :o :o :o

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingnut link=1194102477/15#23 date=1194856870
    How does a spoonfull of magnesium supplement instead of sugar go in a piccolo ? *:o :o :o
    Very Very FAST!!! ;D ;D ;D

    Magnesium acts like a laxative, and besides, it tastes absolutly dreadful!!

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    Oh come on Lizzi !!!

    Were you so overcome by my wit that you only quoted my post and forgot to add a comment of your own???

    ;D ;D ;D

    Wing "self praise gets you everywhere" nut

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    oops Sorry Lizzi!!

    Forgot about scrolling the message down

    Wing "encountering the "Doh" factor" nut

    ::) :-[ ;)

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    sorry Wingnut, tried 3 times to get the repartee in, but the damn computer threw a hissy fit...
    think it is in now tho..

    and yes, you wit was very overcome-able.... oops, "overcoming"!! ;) ;D ;D

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    Chris

    I suffered from debilitating migraines on a monthly basis for years. A very conscientious doctors tried every test, scan or latest wonder drug including Imigran when it first came on the market. Nothing worked. The only relief was from either a pethadine or morphine injection and at least two days in a darkened room.

    Then I got retrenched from a senior management position six years ago and have not had a migraine since. It was only then that I realised that stress was the trigger in my case. I didnt realise that I was under stress but once it was removed the migraines dissappeared. If you cannot pinpoint a physical reason for your migraines you should consider stress as a reason. If stress fits then grab the brew of choice and chill out if you can. It works for me.

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    In my experience migraine is rarely related to diet. Its human nature that when something bad happens to look for an immediate cause and what we had for our last meal is commonly blamed.

    The best treatments are the ones that switch off the migraine (rather than just cover it up) so you dont lose a day to it. Imigran was the first highly effective tablet. It is worth trying the others in this class if you had a partial response - Zomig and Naramig. Injected Imigran has a higher reported success rate (90%) compared to tablets (70%). A self injector is available. All treatments only seem to work well if you take them very early in an attack - its probable that we just dont absorb anything well once an attack gets going.

    Over the counter pain killers are often inadequate for migraine. They are safe when used in the standard doses but you cannot just take twice as much. Paracetamol particularly is dangerous in large amounts. Talk to a doctor to get something appropriate.

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    Thanks Chris,

    To update everyone, no migraines since. For me they are (fortunately) just a one or twice a year thing.

    I definitely fall into the class of those who get one on the first day that the pressure comes off- so often after a really busy week or on the first day of a break or something like that- and Im alert to that...The unusual thing about this one is that is was a pretty relaxing few days prior to the onset...

    The usual suspects- red wine, chocolate etc appear not to bother me (thankfully!). I am also one who absorbs pretty much nothing once the migraine has established..

    It turns out that in response to this thread, I have a CSer client who is a Neurologist and specialises in migraine, so there will be another wonderful story of how we support each other. I love that about CS. Im seeing him for a check over very soon.

    Things that I have put into place- and thanks to those including Doc who have suggested them...
    [*]Daily Vitamin B2 400mg[*]Daily Magnesium[*]Use a larger dose of Asprin at onset followed by Imigran if required...

    Acupuncture is also also on a shortlist of therapies I might try....

    Chris

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    Hi Chris,

    Really sorry to hear you get migraines - theyre no fun at all :(

    My wife suffers regularly and is sensitive to blue-vein cheese, red wine and chocolate. I on the other hand, only get them occasionally, but Ive had cluster headaches/trigeminal neuralgia for over a year (sudden onset) on a daily basis, and theres significant overlap with migraines.

    You might try any and all of these:

    Aspirin (5 of the soluble ones will hit the blood-stream most quickly)
    Coca-cola/Coffee (Plays with the blood vessels nicely - my wifes choice is Coke as the sugar/caffeine/misc ingredients hit you a lot more gently. As an aid to getting over them, she combines coke with salt and vinegar pringles - her well-known Sydney neurologist advised her to try this a few years ago
    Pringles/Vegemite/Hot Chips/Crisps (okay, Im english) (all have lots of salt in them, salt can help)

    Imigran (The nasal spray tastes horrible, and makes your next 3 or 4 coffees taste pretty bad, but this acts faster for most people than the tablets. I started getting rebound headaches when it wore off after a few weeks)
    Naramig (close cousin, makes me nauseous)
    Naprosyn/Naproxen (Non-steroidal anti-inflammatories and others in this class, long-term course might wreck your stomach lining)
    Antihistamines

    My father-in-law recommends the Vit B2, which he found in Japan when he got a big migraine on a retreat there. Acupuncture can help with the pain, but get your doc (or a good doc) to recommend the acupuncturist, there are a huge number of bad ones around and they can do more harm than good.

    Holiday. Taking a holiday and completely de-stressing, rather than just a few days off, but this is obviously difficult when you run your own business. If your migraines are triggered by stress, it might be worth trying to bring down your daily stress level (easier said than done) to see if you can get it under your migraine trigger level.

    Coffee....this helps me more than Imigran - in fact, the whole reason I became a CSer was desperation, seeking something that would allow me to function with unilateral head pain.

    Hot Shower/Cold shower, needle jet setting if you have one

    Heat Pack/Ice Pack, sleep in a dark room if nothing else works

    Beta-blockers like propanolol may help, they may just make you stressy and grumpy.

    You could also try slightly more random things like incense, and coitus. (http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533713 - link for the second one.)

    Your doc might prescribe a number of other things, but hopefully theyll just go away of their own accord, or not be frequent enough that you need to try most of the list.

    Some of the Sydney RPAH studies show that the usual suspects and many that arent so well known (like kiwi, bananna, and stuff which is high in amines or salycilates (sp?)) have an accumulative effect, but my own migraines are rare and like yours - first day off I usually come down with one. Youre probably working too hard!

    Hope your doc and the CSer neurologist find a good solution for you.

    Best wishes,

    John

    PS. Usual disclaimer, personal experience only, take with a pinch of salt and a large glass of professional advice.




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