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    A Helping Hand

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    Alrighty then, What i need a hand with is, My mates and I are trying to make a website, but we are stuck on step 1, what the hell is it about

    I was hoping, you could tell me what you tend to look for in a website, keeping in mind we are 16 yr olds, and a porno website is way above our heads... for now

    Also if you have Teens of your own, could you ask them, it would be appreciated very much!

    Thanking you Muchly Rook

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    Re: A Helping Hand

    Rook, my son is here occassionally and is on his schools help desk for IT, so will probably be keen to help you out too.

    Ill get him to either post here or PM you.

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    Re: A Helping Hand

    Hi there
    PM me with what you are trying to do and i can advise, i build websites and do webhosting and will gladly give you some free advice and assistance.

    Mal

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    Re: A Helping Hand

    Rook only you and your friends can come up with the answer to "what the hell is it about".
    How can we tell you what YOUR website should be about?

    Why do you want to make a website?
    What made you come up with the idea of a website?
    What do you want to get out of it?
    Who do you want looking at it?

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    Good questions TG
    I suspect they have an idea of what they want to do but are not sure how to express it so that it makes sense. I see it often, people say i want a website with "bling" or it needs to be "snazzi".
    Or whats worse is where the client says "i want my website to look exactly like theirs" ususally a competitor.
    Its not that hard but if its business related then all the questions you have raised must be answered before you put finger to keyboard and start.

    Mal

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    Re: A Helping Hand

    i can help you here like scoot said im on the IT Helpdesk at my school.
    here are a few sites you can use
    www.freewebs.com
    www.freewebsites.com
    if you are using a mac try iweb although you will need a server at your school for the site to work or have a .mac account.
    www.wikispaces.com
    www.unrealblogs.com

    try these out and if you dont understand you can email me:
    sharlen@as.edu.au

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    Folks, Rook is my son - the 16yo I mention occasionally. Ok, brag about a lot......

    TG, what Rook didnt mention is that there has been a website running for a few months now, and its died a long death. I think he is hoping to find out from people who use forums and the internet some ideas for the next one - what makes a forum interesting for them.

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    ok well if its a forum he wants to look at he can check out my forum.
    www.applegossip.freeforums.org

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    Re: A Helping Hand

    Quote Originally Posted by Viviane link=1207044070/0#6 date=1207086552
    Folks, Rook is my son - the 16yo I mention occasionally. *Ok, brag about a lot......

    TG, what Rook didnt mention is that there has been a website running for a few months now, and its died a long death. *I think he is hoping to find out from people who use forums and the internet some ideas for the next one - what makes a forum interesting for them.
    I have a browser based game website with a forum for the players.
    The two have a symbiotic relationship.
    The game generates forum users and vice versa.

    A little while ago interest in the game waned and subsequently forum use has dropped off.
    (Actually a forum crash also didnt help when timed with the declining player numbers.)

    The best thing about the forum has been the community spirit.
    At one stage I was the only moderator but had almost nothing to do as the memebers are all well behaved and theres none of the bad behaviour or trash talking you see on a lot of other forums.
    Considering its partly a war game thats a credit to the members.

    Its obvious the behaviour of CS members is the same...exemplary.

    One thing I used to do was email every new member with a personal welcome.

    A similar thing happens here where usually the first reply to a new members first post includes a welcome to CS.

    To sum up, CS and my site show that the members need a common interest and those members also need to be mature enough to act responsibly so that others feel welcome and not excluded by the existing users.

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    Re: A Helping Hand

    Quote Originally Posted by Rook link=1207044070/0#0 date=1207044070
    Alrighty then, What i need a hand with is, My mates and I are trying to make a website, but we are stuck on step 1, what the hell is it about

    I was hoping, you could tell me what you tend to look for in a website, keeping in mind we are 16 yr olds, and a porno website is way above our heads... for now

    Also if you have Teens of your own, could you ask them, it would be appreciated very much!

    Thanking you Muchly Rook *
    ok..Rook.. let me just say first,.... Good on you and your mates for even thinking of putting a website/forum together!!! Put this together,..learn from it,.. put another one together faster/easier...and so on... you can make some good money from the internet..whether it be via your own websites or building websites for others,...and you can do it all from your bedrooms/homes. Put your heads together and really aim high, put some good solid work in and you will reap the rewards...pure satisfaction at first and money if you get it right and what you want.

    "step 1, what the hell is it about".. first things first. You need to find something that you and your mates enjoy immensely. You have to,..otherwise,. all the excitement of putting together your first website will be just that,..all excitement. When its up and running, if you dont have a passion for whatever your website/forum is about... itll die... you wont want to maintain it in 12months time.

    So,. simply think about what it might be that ties you to your mates,.. what common interest do you have? Do you all play WOW, Guild Wars, AofE?? Do you all play music together? ride scateboards,. do grafitti? *What ever it is,.. think of what you would like to see in a website/forum based on this common interest. Yeh there is already a tonne of WOW forums and places to get cheats etc,.. but if you still want to do something like that,.. check out those sites, *what are they missing? how could you make a similar site that is more appealing to your audience. And there is another thing you need to consider... who is your intended audience?/customer.... then think like them!!

    If it is music youre all interested in,.. what do you think would be a cool idea, product to do with that? Or grafitti? (not that I condone grafitti in non-specific areas) however,..I acknowledge it is a form of art and expression for youth and I appreciate some it,.. some of it is awesome art. So just using grafitti as a vague example of what you could do,..here is a little rundown. You would research the subject,.. and have pages on your website that contains the history of,..reasons for,..combatting grafitti in public places,.. whats art and whats not,.. the cost of cleaning,.. offensive grafitti,.. generally everything and anything about the subject. You could collect images from around the world. Add YouTube vids on how to (gasp!...I cant believe I just wrote that). Have forum to discuss all things grafitti,..which might get a little heated when discussing where and how grafitti is done etc. Offer T-shirts for sale,..mug, mouse mats..whatever,..attach a cafepress account to it which you can setup and fill with stock in an evening. *It is endless... but what you need to do eventually,. is generate good traffic to your website,.. and a forum attached to the website will definitely help there,....and then when your traffic is creeping up sufficiantly that businesses would consider your website as a good place to advertise their wares,.. you can begin to approach businesses like,..surf wear(or whatever goes with grafiitt), art stores etc and offer advertising space,... like 1yr for blah blah,... etc*;D. *

    Ok... that was the condensed version,.. but might give you some ideas (just not grafitti ok) * :o ;)


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    I have the forum designer site using phpbb2 going to phpbb3:
    www.freeforums.org
    i used their FREE hosting to host my forum, its easy to use and you can add whatever you want. you will need to make an account though to make a forum. limit is one.

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    Re: A Helping Hand

    hah, trhanks everyone

    My mates old site is

    www.rrelive.com

    haha, i realise something i havent done is give a thorough walkthrough of our plans.

    ok. here goes ;)

    It is called RRElive (RRE= Round Revolution Evolution... I have no idea what it is meant to mean :P). It is a phpBB based forum. It has a basic RPG system attached to it, and you get money for your posts. The RPG didnt take off :( There are also games, they were great for publicity, until the NSW department of education blocked the site! ><; I had a laugh.

    We have 482 members, of that 482, we have 3 people who post (not including myself, because i stopped due to inactivity). the most we had posting at one time was arounf 7-8 and we had about 200 members then. The forum had a great feel to it, but there are so few people it feels overly cluttered and now just.. well "yucky!"

    The website itself had no niche, it didnt specialise in anything. It had a cooking section, gaming section and normal conversation section, and after a while, i managed to get the admin to make a special section for myself ;) it was known as "Rooks Army" were honoured forum members were picked, to differentiate them between mods and normal posters, and reward them for posting and being, in general, kind and wholesome posters. I thought it to be a cool and rewarding system, but there were never enough people to get it started, and i have one member ><;!

    What we are focusing on now is making either a new site, or upgrading the other into somehting completely different. We are most likely going to go with something along the lines of gaming, and as all of us are nintendo fan boys :P it might be a bit biased until we get some sony and microsoft... and even mac people (Yes Harlem i am looking at your site right now :P). We dont know if we will have an RPG system at least to begin with, we aim to create one, but no just yet. We plan to advertise with posters and on you tube and places like that.

    Just one more thing, before this post becomes excruciatingly long (Or has it already?) is, what would you like to see in a website, what sought of topics do you find to be interesting. If youre a gamer, what do you like about gaming? why do you game? what do you thinkg makes a game?
    If youre a skier, same thing. what do you like about skiing? what makes a skier?

    the only thing i dont need to be told is that you like coffee :P (I got that idea already:P).

    P.S. Harlem, by now i have signed up to your website :P

    EDIT: yes i have noticed my chronic use of emoticons ;) <--- Like that one just there!

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    Re: A Helping Hand

    The link to my game site is in my profile.

    Youll find its different to most other games because its still text based.

    We attract a "different" crowd.

    I dont know whether youll get enough of us here that are in your target market to give you useful answers to that last lot of questions.

    You mentioned skiing. If youre not a skier dont go there.
    As Remy said, pick a subject that interests you and your friends.

    You shouldnt try to be all things to everyone.
    Pick a niche and fill it.

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    haha thanks

    skiing was just an example... plus i do ski :P but the others dont ;)

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    Ok... interview with 13yr old son and he says for Nintendo...he would like to see a website packed with the following;
    cheats, hints, walkthroughs, list of all nintendo games, online guides, wallpapers & gifs etc. He also suggested making funny Youtube vids with Machinema (he is not sure if you can use nintendo games tho). He showed me some very funny Halo machinema vids on Youtube and this sort of thing could bring in your taget audience like flies to dog [s]sh[/s] biscuits ;D.

    Apart from that,...my son said he doesnt have a clue ;)

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    If your interested in gaming then a Mac gamers website is:
    www.gameranger.com



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