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    After watching Underbelly on TV I did a bit of research and found this interesting site:--

    http://www.melbournecrime.bizhosting.com/

    Its worth a read.

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    Its a very cool site, the one show I absolutely will not miss is Underbelly. But whats Roger Rogerson doing there??

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    I havent seen Underbelly.
    Good huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viviane link=1207953765/0#1 date=1207955586
    Its a very cool site, the one show I absolutely will not miss is Underbelly. *But whats Roger Rogerson doing there??
    Ive heard stories that he used to fly interstate to do a heist and then return to Sydney the same day!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1207953765/0#2 date=1207955958
    Good huh?
    Gripping.

    Im not usually one who watches a lot of TV (let alone crime dramas etc) but I have found this series to be exceptionally well acted and written. *That it is inspired by true events is mind-blowing.

    Obviously, there will be some dramatisations along the way, so like Greenman, I too have been compelled to do some extra research to remove any artistic license *::)

    I hope Vic gets it soon - will it air after the trial of Lewis Morans murder, or are other trials pending?

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    Re: Melbournes "underbelly"

    Quote Originally Posted by -Alchemist- link=1207953765/0#4 date=1207957279
    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1207953765/0#2 date=1207955958
    Good huh?
    Gripping.

    Im not usually one who watches a lot of TV (let alone crime dramas etc) but I have found this series to be exceptionally well acted and written. *That it is inspired by true events is mind-blowing.
    Not to mention the great cinematography, the producers/directors are really giving it that great aussie take. It had the potential to be very bad by just falling back on a good story, but all credit where it is due.

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    Roger didnt do heists, as a detective he gave the all clear for them to be done, then collected his cut later. *Didnt like getting his hands dirty, I think. *One of the people whose death hes believed to have arranged is Christopher Flannery, who was from Melbourne - perhaps thats the connection.

    TG, Underbelly is fascinating - its amazing to watch a reasonably true story and to see that people choose to live with all that hanging over their heads. In terms of looks, the casting is phenominal as well.

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    It might be many months if not more before Underbelly is shown in Melbourne.
    Its not just the trial of Avangelos Goussis for the alleged murder of Lewis Moran that is holding up screening....

    It is the extradition from Greece, and trial of Tony Mokbel.

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    In that case you guys will be having the dvds smuggled down to you before its shown on tv. Tony Mokbels trial will drag on forever even after hes back in the country. I doubt it will just pick up where it left off.

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    ....This guy is in Melbourne and has all 13 episodes!

    Oh, by the way, I can tell you how it ends (!!)

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    Re: Melbournes "underbelly"

    I heard that Dick Smith Powerhouse will have it for sale on the 8th May... but not in Victoria.

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    Re: Melbournes "underbelly"

    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer Roaster link=1207953765/0#5 date=1207958633
    Quote Originally Posted by -Alchemist- link=1207953765/0#4 date=1207957279
    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1207953765/0#2 date=1207955958
    Good huh?
    Gripping.

    Im not usually one who watches a lot of TV (let alone crime dramas etc) but I have found this series to be exceptionally well acted and written. That it is inspired by true events is mind-blowing.
    Not to mention the great cinematography, the producers/directors are really giving it that great aussie take. It had the potential to be very bad by just falling back on a good story, but all credit where it is due.

    ...and on top of all that a very, very good soundtrack.
    Like alot of other Melbourne based folk- Im thankful for internet piracy!

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    Another brilliant episode last night, its going to leave a big gap in my viewing week when this series finishes........................

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    I wonder what and why it is, that people find the dark side of society so fascinating? Ive watched the show a couple of times but didnt really do anything for me at all :-?....

    Mal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal link=1207953765/0#13 date=1208418530
    I wonder what and why it is, that people find the dark side of society so fascinating? Ive watched the show a couple of times but didnt really do anything for me at all :-?....

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    Mal, it might just be that the people/characters live in a world that is alien to many of us. Like you I watched a couple of episodes. I thought the acting was great, but was quickly distracted by coffee. ;)

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    As said before I hadnt watched it but last night I had it on in the corner of my screen to try and see what its about.

    I admit I wasnt concentrating on it but I saw wasnt rivetting to me.

    I also have a bit of a problem with FJ Holden playing the head cop.
    Hes never struck me as the serious type and the role is out of character in my mind.
    I half expect to see Red Symons pop up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis link=1207953765/0#14 date=1208427169
    Mal, it might just be that the people/characters live in a world that is alien to many of us. Like you I watched a couple of episodes. I thought the acting was great, but was quickly distracted by coffee. ;)
    I guess there is that aspect of it Dennis but I would much rather view something that explores the achievements of the various areas of science (and the scientists themselves), that have built the repository of knowledge upon which we are all so heavily reliant these days, and all the people who are still building that repository.

    Mal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1207953765/15#15 date=1208429668
    As said before I hadnt watched it but last night I had it on in the corner of my screen to try and see what its about.

    I admit I wasnt concentrating on it but I saw wasnt rivetting to me.

    I also have a bit of a problem with FJ Holden playing the head cop.
    Hes never struck me as the serious type and the role is out of character in my mind.
    I half expect to see Red Symons pop up.
    SNAP! scary!!!!!!!...I hadnt watched it either, but last night I also had it in the corner of my screen to try and see what was so good about it. :o

    I knew roughly what it was about from seeing glimpses of the advertised previews before it started and hearing others speak about it,.. but I hate watching things that will leave me feeling depressed knowing this sort of stuff does go on in real life. Id much prefer to avoid seeing it and just pretend it doesnt. But with all the talk here,.. I thought Id take a little look,.but nup,.. its not fer moi oim afroid. :)

    Dont worry TG,.. yer not alone on FK Holdens role either... thats exactly what I was thinking too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viviane link=1207953765/0#6 date=1207958825
    ... Roger didnt do heists, as a detective he gave the all clear for them to be done, then collected his cut later. *Didnt like getting his hands dirty, I think. *One of the people whose death hes believed to have arranged is Christopher Flannery, who was from Melbourne - perhaps thats the connection
    ... be careful there with the allegations Viv! ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal link=1207953765/15#16 date=1208432972
    I would much rather view something that explores the achievements of the various areas of science (and the scientists themselves), that have built the repository of knowledge upon which we are all so heavily reliant these days, and all the people who are still building that repository.
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    Me too,. Im right there with ya on that Mal. Id prefer to watch a good documentary, especially science related or wildlife/oceanlife, world adventure/trekking etc. Loved Ewan McGregors and Charley Boormans series Long Way Round, fun light hearted series that one. *Love anything that makes me feel up really. *Something like Underbelly,..or anything gory, violent or scary all of which has negative impact(triggers negative emotions) on young minds,... I dont want my children watching anyway, so I tend to keep them off the TV. The kids and I have great (read weird) senses of humour,.. and go for the humorous stuff too. Hubby usually heads off to bed quite early everynight and watches TV for a bit in bed,. he might have watched Underbelly..dunno, but hell watch stuff that I find way too depressing. Who needs it...not moi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal link=1207953765/15#16 date=1208432972
    I would much rather view something that explores the achievements of the various areas of science (and the scientists themselves), that have built the repository of knowledge upon which we are all so heavily reliant these days, and all the people who are still building that repository.

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    Im with you there Mal.....

    We should be more interested in human achievement not human failure..... "Good news" stories dont sell..... but gossip, stories about people who fail..... soapies about the low lifes in society.... most watch with fascination...

    I often wonder what this says about us..... do we really hate the real world so much that we have to escape it? Or do we secretly admire these people who do things we cant or havent?.... which would be fine but it only seems to apply to the sleazy things - not the great achievements ::) ::)

    No two ways about it - humans are a strange breed of cattle!! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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    From what I understand the show to be about and the little Ive seen, theres a lot of violence to be seen.

    After over 33 years of martial arts practise Ive long ago seen the futility of violence.

    In an unarmed fight Im fairly confident I could dish out quite a beating to most people if I chose to.
    On the one occasion I came close to having to prove that, there were two drunks bothering one of the kitchen hands at the end of a shift at Pizza Hut.
    She was waiting out the front to be picked up by her father so I ushered her back inside.
    They followed and one thing led to another and they started throwing punches.
    I remember getting tired of ducking, weaving and blocking and pulling my hand back to prepare to punch.
    But I thought about a bit longer and decided not to.
    After all they kept missing me.
    A few seconds later they got tired of all their wild swinging and left.
    So even with that much provocation I was able to not resort to hitting.

    I can break 8 concrete roof tiles with a hit from my hand.
    The human body isnt as strong as concrete.
    I know if I hit someone they would be hurt.

    People portrayed by that show, based on real life characters I know, are the kind that have a lot to learn and maybe never will.

    But we should aspire to be better than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1207953765/15#21 date=1208440584

    SNIP...I can break 8 concrete roof tiles with a hit from my hand...SNIP
    If Im ever attacked by 8 concrete roof tiles Ill know who to call upon. ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaB link=1207953765/15#20 date=1208435983
    Im with you there Mal.....

    We should be more interested in human achievement not human failure..... "Good news" stories dont sell..... but gossip, stories about people who fail..... soapies about the low lifes in society.... most watch with fascination...
    [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1207953765/15#21 date=1208440584
    People portrayed by that show, based on real life characters I know, are the kind that have a lot to learn and maybe never will.

    But we should aspire to be better than that.
    Perfect! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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    Another aspect of the show that intrigued me is the connections to some "colourful" characters from Perth that have links to the Melbourne crime scene...............Mercanti, Kizon etc.

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    Witness Nick DArcys suspension from the Olympic team as a poignant reminder of how human endeavour/achievement can be destroyed by the futility of violence :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1207953765/15#21 date=1208440584
    People portrayed by that show, based on real life characters I know, are the kind that have a lot to learn and maybe never will.
    You are "dead" right there, TG. About 30 of the characters portrayed on that show are no longer with us.... all killed in the Melbourne gangland killings on which Underbelly is heavily based.
    Their learning days are well and truly over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis link=1207953765/15#22 date=1208472623
    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1207953765/15#21 date=1208440584

    SNIP...I can break 8 concrete roof tiles with a hit from my hand...SNIP
    If Im ever attacked by 8 concrete roof tiles Ill know who to call upon. *;D
    That reminds me of a sketch on an old aussie comedy show where the interviewer was asking the martial arts dude (after he demonstarted breaking 1 tile) how he would handle someone attacking him in a certain way.
    The premise of the sketch was that the martial arts guy didnt understand the concept and kept saying something like "I dont understand, wheres the tile?"

    Eventually he seemed to "get it" and his response was that if attacked he would go around to the attackers place later and break every tile on his roof. *;D

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    That would leave you very Thor ;D ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan link=1207953765/15#29 date=1208509297
    That would leave you very Thor *;D ;D
    your tho thilly thtan! ;D

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    I have WISP. ::)

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    ::) ::)

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    Re: Melbournes "underbelly"

    Hi all, been away for a while (and no, not "away" like they send them away on Underbelly).

    I really like this show - find it riveting. Yes it is violent and shows the worst human traits, but it is clear that the show presents these people for what they are (or were) - greedy, lazy, sociopathic and psychopathic morons with nothing to admire or aspire to, not glamorous at all. I sit there most of the show shaking my head at what these blokes thought they could get away with (or laughing at the language and carry-on of Roberta Williams).

    The show is very well made and features great acting. Far better fare than most of the rubbish dished up by the commercial channels these days.

    I am worried however, notwithstanding all of the above and the fact that just about all these nuckleheads ended up dead or in gaol, that some impressionable young punks will still try and emulate their actions, seeing something appealing in the rebelliousness and easy money.

    A lot of movies lately (eg. good quality movies like There Will Be Blood, Before The Devil Knows Youre Dead, No Country For Old Men) have also been very bleak and not uplifting at all. So I agree that shows and movies exhibiting positive human attributes and human endeavour would be preferable.

    (Ill still be tuning in Wednesday night though ::) .)

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