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    Snobs with Wings.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7140574E4F48434E58210 link=1113143680/461#461 date=1234774935
    Also enjoy aviation!
    Do you fly or just enjoy the "look" part of aviation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 715D5F5F5D4F635F54555F575D3C0 link=1113143680/462#462 date=1234785929

    Do you fly or just enjoy the "look" part of aviation?

    -Linda
    Hi,

    I cannot afford it yet...always spending money on education.

    My best friend from high school is a pilot and I go flying with him regularly - aerobatics out of Camden just two weeks ago. Often we experience pilot blackouts whereby my friend becomes temporarily disabled and I just have to fly the plane...shhhhh! Have even brought it down for final.

    I have a few thousand hours up on flight sim and have done the theory component of licence.

    I think this latest education venture is the last and I will actually get a good pay in coming years (2 more to go), whereby I am definitely off to get my private licence. Thinking of eventually buying a plane and attempting a fly in fly out medical job in a rural area.

    What about you? Do you fly?

    Travis.

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    Travis,

    Have you considered a Recreational Aviation licence?

    Only costs about $3000 to get your "certificate" and planes in this category are also a lot cheaper - and you can do your own maintenance as well......

    Heaps of fun I can assure you (I own a Flightstar). Worth a look..... (but no aerobatics permitted!)

    Check out http://www.auf.asn.au/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0B20372003410 link=1113143680/464#464 date=1234821058
    Travis,

    Have you considered a Recreational Aviation licence?
    Check out http://www.auf.asn.au/
    I have loosely considered this but never really looked into it seriously. I see plenty flying out of my local airport...maybe time to go have a chat to some of them when I find the time. I am attending an airshow there this Sunday...lookout I may come away with a lesson booked!

    In the end I would like to be in a heavier plane and be able to do the occasional aerobatics. If I were to buy a heavier plane in the end, I would probably go for one more for commuting than aerobatics though - and just rent an aerobat when I wish.

    How practical can these recreational craft be for commuting to say a rural area and carrying equipment. I note the pics of the one you have that I saw on the net are two seaters - I doubt the equipment I would need to carry would exceed the weight or volume of a passenger...so looking good from this aspect. However, what sort of range and cruise speed do you get? And I am assuming more likely to get grounded due to weather in the recreational.

    I will look into it more to get me flying in the meantime though. I guess it will depend also on price of renting at my local airport as I definitely wont be buying anything for several years yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 59687F6667606B6670090 link=1113143680/463#463 date=1234818859
    What about you? Do you fly?
    Travis.
    Hey Travis!

    No, I am Navigator. Flying doesnt actually interest me. I prefer to read the maps, use the GPS, use the ERSA, etc....all that helps the Pilot...(my husband)

    We are both members of RA-Aus...mine is just a non-flying member.

    JB is right though. It is a heck of alot cheaper doing it with AUF...Alot of GA pilots are actually going over to it.

    We fly a Jabiru J160 that we bought as a kit and built...and is RAA-Aus registered.

    -Linda

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    Hi Linda,

    Those Jabirus look really nice. The cruising speed and range looks good also for this size aircraft.

    If you dont mind me asking, how much does it cost to register one of these with the RAA-Aus rego?

    Also, how difficult is it really to build one? I am okay with a set of tools but nothing specialised which needs real skill. I noticed Jabiru run workshops for diy kit builders...would this be a neccesity or more an option?

    Java B - jump on in and answer same questions about your aircraft too - I am keen to know more about these. And anyone else?

    Sorry for all the questions...but you have my attention!

    Travis.

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    Travis,

    Mine is a more "economical" aircraft (costs less to buy) and is more "draggy" than the Jabs for example..... *top speed of about 58 knots and a useful load rating of 220Kg....

    Whilst its range is limited in theory... Flightstars have been flown up and down the entire east coast of Australia....

    There is a huge range of aircraft which can be registered under RA-Aus... including quite a few GA aircraft..... Im sure you could find something ideally suited to you needs.... and for a lot less in the $$$$ department.

    There are also moves underway to increase the MTOW accepted for registration to 760Kg which will add quite a few more aircraft.

    Re weather... the crosswind component of most ultralights is identical to GA aircraft.... *so not a big issue.....

    And you can have a LOT of fun.... Ultralight clubs seem far more friendly places than their GA equivalents..... well worth a visit IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3302150C0D0A010C1A630 link=1113143680/467#467 date=1234848751
    Those Jabirus look really nice. The cruising speed and range looks good also for this size aircraft.
    Our Jab does a cruise speed of about 110 knts. It has 140 lts in the wings (wet wings) and burns about 15-16 lts an hour. This will get us to the Qld border from Victoria...in about 8-9 hours.

    If you dont mind me asking, how much does it cost to register one of these with the RAA-Aus rego?
    I think its about $180-$190 for 2 years.

    Also, how difficult is it really to build one? I am okay with a set of tools but nothing specialised which needs real skill. I noticed Jabiru run workshops for diy kit builders...would this be a neccesity or more an option?
    It took us 3 years from kit stage to build ours. Alot of hard work (because it is fibreglass there was alot...and I mean alot! of rubbing back :P)
    There is no specialised profession in building one, my husband is a motor mechanic by trade, and just me. Patience and a love for this hobby is all we had.
    There are some workshops around that do offer advice for building your own kit plane, there is also one offered for maintanence for them aswell.

    I noticed you are going to the Woolongong flyin. There are a few people in Jabs that are going up there (unfortunately we cant make it) that we are good friends with. I am sure they would be more than happy to answer any/all questions that you have. :)

    If I can help with any other questions please ask, I am more than happy to answer.

    -Linda



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    [movedhere] What do Coffee Snobs do for a crust [move by] Mal.

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    Hi Mal

    Was wondering when this conversation would be given its own thread...

    But "Snobs with Wings....."

    Havent become an angel yet..... and probably never will ::)

    By the way, for we "flying" coffeesnobs..... because caffeine is addictive - the lack of it (on a long flight) can cause us to make bad decisions (human factors as applicable to piloting a plane)..... so better take your caffeine fix with you.....

    Now how can I install my twin group LC in my plane? ;D ;D ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 002B3C2B084A0 link=1234785930/9#9 date=1234879816
    Havent become an angel yet..... and probably never will ::)
    Wasnt thinking of the "feathery" kind JB ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 113A2D3A195B0 link=1234785930/9#9 date=1234879816
    Now how can I install my twin group LC in my plane? ;D ;D ;D
    Your dreamin! With a useful load rating of 220kg I dont think youre going to get much more than a Presso in! And youll have to forgo the luggage for the trip I daresay! ;D

    Quote Originally Posted by 0B3A2D3435323934225B0 link=1234785930/1#1 date=1234818859
    My best friend from high school is a pilot and I go flying with him regularly - aerobatics out of Camden just two weeks ago. Often we experience pilot blackouts whereby my friend becomes temporarily disabled and I just have to fly the plane...shhhhh! Have even brought it down for final.
    This is not something to be proud of! :o Having lived with and worked with professional pilots for the past sixteen years, there would be none of them that would be impressed with this kind of thing. Seriously. That is very dangerous regardless of how well you think you can fly.

    Quote Originally Posted by 0B3A2D3435323934225B0 link=1234785930/1#1 date=1234818859
    Thinking of eventually buying a plane and attempting a fly in fly out medical job in a rural area.
    Being from a rural area, this is great to hear. We occasionally get a locum (sp?) who flies himself around to various country towns relieving GPs when needed. And then we also have the air ambulance visit as well but mostly these days we get the rescue helicopter in for patient retrievals.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 796965657E6B556D6B660A0 link=1234785930/11#11 date=1234905760
    This is not something to be proud of!Shocked Having lived with and worked with professional pilots for the past sixteen years, there would be none of them that would be impressed with this kind of thing. Seriously. That is very dangerous regardless of how well you think you can fly.
    I must admit I was surprised at that statement as well.

    To cause a person to blackout you are pulling some very serious Gs... a level which is in excess of the design loading of most planes.... aerobatic or not! Planes, similar to those which the pilots fly in the Red Bull air race, are capable of that (one of the pilots can withstand G forces well in excess of any "normal" pilot by the way.... he has trained his body to withstand the effect)....

    However G forces sufficient to cause blackouts in normal pilots will generally stress the planes airframe beyond its capability.... and it will fail.... maybe not straight away... but eventually some "non essential" part - like the wings - will drop off..... and the plane becomes an aerodynamic rock.... :-[

    This tends to really spoil your day of flying..... regardless of your skill level as a pilot! :( :(

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    Do these ones below count.

    Some of aeromodellers are just frustrated full sized pilots or in my case 20+ currently flying toys would buy me a nice ultralight with change ::) Maybe one day when I win Tattslotto and get a house with a 6 car Garage it will be time for one of these *:)


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    Quote Originally Posted by 60707C7C67724C74727F130 link=1234785930/11#11 date=1234905760
    [ That is very dangerous regardless of how well you think you can fly.
    Do you know of a Trial Introductory Flight? I have taken one in a fixed wing and a helicopter - not with my friend - a paid business transaction. The whole point of these is to let you take the controls and have a go (in the hope of gaining your interest in pursuing your licence). This is the exact thing my friend does, with instructor rating. You will find these available with any flight school. If your friends were instructors they would have done them! Approved and openly advertised everywhere. I would suggest not dangerous at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6D46514665270 link=1234785930/12#12 date=1234907556
    To cause a person to blackout you are pulling some very serious Gs...
    Ummmmm.....I got taken a bit too literally here. He does not black out and we do not exceed the ratings of the airframe (I would be passed out before this, and before my friend who handles Gs better than me.) The inverted commas were to suggest not really blacked out...just getting me to fly...like the TIF I mention above.

    Sorry for confusion here...I would never allow him to do something that left me in total control without him ready to take over! I know the value of experience in everything I do. Knowledge is never enough!

    Travis...not as dangerous as you think I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1322352C2D2A212C3A430 link=1234785930/15#15 date=1234925640
    If your friends were instructors they would have done them!
    My friends, collegues and husband are all highly skilled aerial agricultural pilots. Hence why they would not have done that sort of thing! Instructing is not something these guys even consider as a career path! All they want to do is fly and not get told what to do. Though there have certainly been plenty of times when they have allowed me to put my hands and feet on the controls, without them "blacking out"!

    Personally, Ive flown in a few GA aircraft over the years, including an RV4 (our company runabout plane), a motorglider, various other gliders, Jetrangers, Hueys, Eurocopters, Beechcraft, Cessnas, the list gets boring after that... ;D

    And cant help myself here but must brag...

    An F-111 pilot once said to my husband about his respect of ag pilots. His opinion was that they had to have a pretty big ego to get into a plane and fly it at 250 km/hr, 10 feet above the ground. Which, considering these guys used to fly over us at about 500 feet and travelling at ludicrous speed, is high praise indeed!

    Anyhoo...Ive got plenty of aviation tales I could tell...should write a book actually...

    Like the classic tale of my man scaling a tree in the middle of some of the most inaccessible terrain in the country to tie a few ropes around a glider that had crashed 60 foot up in it. They then lowered the glider to the ground, dismantled it, waited for a friend in a Jetranger who then did two sling loads getting the glider out to where they could put it in a trailer and take it away...all for the cost of a carton of beer and some jetfuel... ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5F73717173614D717A7B717973120 link=1234785930/14#14 date=1234919180
    This is our baby:
    Hey Linda! Didnt know you guys were into aviation too! Gee, I imagine that the next time we get together it will be over coffee talking about planes! ;D

    If you ever feel like a trip somewhere, consider coming up here! Plenty of good all weather strips and I know a really nice hangar for your plane that youd be welcome to! ;)

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    Hi scoota gal,

    sounds very interesting indeed! Gliders are something I still havent experienced but am keen to...the silence must be eerie.

    I didnt realise when I wrote it that the instructor quote might sound arrogant...I really didnt mean it that way, meant it as factual that the people you know probably have done TIFs!

    Yes, I have great respect for the ag pilots too from many stories I have read and heard when hanging around airports.

    What happens with my friend and I is exactly what you describe your husband and friends do...remember my friend does not blackout at all...it was a figure of speech that I didnt communicate well. My friend is always on the ball ready to take control, and he trusts I will not make any abrupt moves as I know better than this.

    Surely this is how experience is gained in risky activities. I am not a qualified doctor yet, let alone surgeon...and yet I make incisions, throw stitches, and be first assistant to surgeons regularly in theatre (hands in cavities cutting and clamping whatever surgeon tells me to). Anaesthetists have me intubate low risk patients...etc. Because I need the experience by the time I get there, and they have the experience to watch over me and ensure the patient is safe at all times. If I am only tested on knowledge then lookout my first patients!

    Is this not the same with flying? One must fly the plane for the first time at some point!...with no experience. Surely this should happen as early in their training as possible with the guidance and overall control of the experienced pilot.

    Regarding the low flying...have you watched much aviation footage on youtube? I saw some amazing footage of French fighter jet pilots over the sea at what looked like 10ft max! They are leaving a wake in the water! Crazy stuff.

    Love to read that book someday :).

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    Yes, the friend who owns the motorglider is a fantastic instructor, Travis. Hes a school teacher by trade but has the most unreal way of describing how to hold the attitude of the plane, what youre about to do next etc etc...

    In comparison with my husband who used to say...

    "Hold the stick, Scoota whilst I fold this map." ;D ::)

    I actually have an entire dvd of Aerial Ag flying...some short videos that were filmed in this country for the annual conference that is held for ag aviation. Its a most requested copy and I know some men who even after a long day in the seat will still come home and watch it! ::) As if doing it all day wasnt enough...

    I think that some of them are on youtube and if theyre not, go to fieldair.com.au and you can find some more of them there as well.

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    Hey Travis,

    go do the gliding thing it is well worth it for the experience (apart from being cheaper) compared to ultralights or GA. Camden would be about your nearest field unless there is gliders down your way? I have done about 10 hours stick time over the years in gliders and it was worth every $ :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3136323D353F2A3A3D34530 link=1234785930/20#20 date=1234941133
    unless there is gliders down your way?
    Dont believe so. Only glider at my airport I have seen was for a special event.

    Camden to the North, or Nowra to the South are the options I know of.

    I really suck at flying the gliders on flight sim in terms of staying up a long time. Is it easier (I dont mean easy) when you actually have the feeling of lift, and the wind and thermals around you instead of trying to ascertain it from the instruments and screen? Note I do use force feedback controls.

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    Snap at 18.12 :)

    Trying to keep a full sized glider in a thermal and flying smooth is hard work unless you are used to it due to not having a motor to haul you around. Done properly it is a creative and mental process of visualising and feeling the air more than a more mechanical process of powered flying. Please dont flame me power junkies [smiley=engel017.gif]

    I find it much easier to thermal R/C (apart from having thousands of hours up) gliders as you have a visual reference of if you are going up and how strong the relative air is on different sides of a thermal turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7041564F4E49424F59200 link=1234785930/21#21 date=1234942012
    Note I do use force feedback controls.
    Including one for your backside? Thats be handy.... ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 537E7A767B170 link=1234785930/23#23 date=1234943848
    Including one for your backside? Thats be handy....
    I would have thought one for your stomach... which gives you a sinking feeling as you hit a downburst on final just before landing ..... and something to generate that "keep the teeth clenched" feeling when you are flying in real turbulence! :D :D :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2B00170023610 link=1234785930/24#24 date=1234945286
    I would have thought one for your stomach... which gives you a sinking feeling as you hit a downburst on final just before landing ..... and something to generate that "keep the teeth clenched" feeling when you are flying in *real turbulence! :D :D :D
    Ahhh,

    Bring it on JB. Love that sort of flying. It was pretty much standard fare in PNG and a lot of fun... Not for everyone mind you ::)

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    Are they still gliding at Nowra? I thought that theyd shut down the Navy gliding club years ago. My man used to fly the Piper Cub that they used to tow the gliders and long story short, met his boss to be in the flying game. Spent many boring, cold, windy and overcast days sitting on the side of that strip! Actually, even watched in horror from the back seat of the Cub one day as the Navy bases chief officer prop started the plane for us! I was praying darn hard that Mark didnt run over him, I can tell you!

    Camden would be the best bet for gliders these days Id guess. There are a few there, including one that got rescued out of a tree... ;D (its not flying tho)..and Oakdale might be another strip that is used. At least, Im sure that is where my friend has his motorglider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7D6D61617A6F51696F620E0 link=1234785930/17#17 date=1234934862
    Hey Linda! Didnt know you guys were into aviation too! Gee, I imagine that the next time we get together it will be over coffee talking about planes! *;D
    If you ever feel like a trip somewhere, consider coming up here! Plenty of good all weather strips and I know a really nice hangar for your plane that youd be welcome to! *;)
    We should get together soon Taz! I had a laugh...talk about something else other than coffee!! ;D

    We actually flew over your part of the world Melbourne cup weekend last year, heading up to Bundaberg for the Jabs first long maiden voyage....geez there is some fantastic looking scenery up that way. Very dry though. We were quite surprised how dry it actually is.

    We will be making a few trips up that way again soon. I will take you up on that offer! :)

    -Linda

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    Quote Originally Posted by 072C3B2C0F4D0 link=1234785930/24#24 date=1234945286
    and something to generate that "keep the teeth clenched" feeling when you are flying in *real turbulence! :D :D :D
    I wish! I love turbulence in a small plane...really know you are flying. One of my best was in a little 172 where it felt like we were falling off a cliff only to be suddenly rocketed back up...heaps of fun. Different story for a downburst on landing though :-/.

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    Well, I thought Id add a pic. This is one that I took as I was doing a Flickr challenge group and needed to do a "character portrait". So, I got my son to model in his dads gear, so its also turned out as a bit of a nice tribute for him too. Ive got some more that Ill share with you later but thought that this would be a good one to start with! Enjoy...


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    Those crop duster pilots are awesome. I have a high respect for what they do. At Ballarat there is a guy who does practice runs up and down the runway and it is a sight to behold! The figure 8 moves they do and the high banking turns are just fantastic.

    Travis...uhm turbulence...not my cup of tea. I dont even like it in a big aircraft. When you get it in the Jab, it sort of is a little unnerving. You can feel a rise or a drop of 500ft in it.

    We landed at Dubbo airport in 30knt gusting in 32* heat and it was not nice...No lift and the plane didnt want to come down.

    -Linda

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1935373735270B373C3D373F35540 link=1234785930/30#30 date=1235027080
    Those crop duster pilots are awesome. I have a high respect for what they do. At Ballarat there is a guy who does practice runs up and down the runway and it is a sight to behold! The figure 8 moves they do and the high banking turns are just fantastic.

    -Linda
    Those pilots would be highly insulted to hear you call them crop dusters, Linda... ;) We dont "dust crops" any more...they get sprayed!

    It would most likely be a test pilot for Field Air youre watching, seeing as that is where they are based. They are the Australian agent for Air Tractors and theyd be testing the ones theyve put together after being shipped over from the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 715D5F5F5D4F635F54555F575D3C0 link=1234785930/30#30 date=1235027080
    Travis...uhm turbulence...not my cup of tea. I dont even like it in a big aircraft. When you get it in the Jab, it sort of is a little unnerving. You can feel a rise or a drop of 500ft in it.

    We landed at Dubbo airport in 30knt gusting in 32* heat and it was not nice...No lift and the plane didnt want to come down.

    -Linda
    Im not the biggest fan of hairy landings, but as long as were up high...love a thrill! Turbulence up high doesnt worry me at all but hairy landings will always raise the blood pressure for me I think!

    Travis.

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    GREAT photo Scoota Gal! Love the lighting you captured for this.

    Travis.

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    Re: Snobs with Wings.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 4A5A56564D58665E5855390 link=1113143680/464#464 date=1236686050
    Ah...you should join us then, in the flying thread, Epic!
    Thanks for pointing me in this direction SG! Great pic of Scooter Bambino :)



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    Re: Snobs with Wings.....

    Thanks for that Epic...notice Ive got the matching yellow bike... ;) ;D

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    Re: Snobs with Wings.....

    Linda,

    How much leg room is in that plane? compared to say a Commodore or similar sedan? And does it have one of those parachutes in the tail?

    Thx
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    Re: Snobs with Wings.....

    Thought Id add my flying thing ...








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    Re: Snobs with Wings.....

    Is that it with the "snobs with wings"? I did my undergraduate in Civil Aviation and mostly flying Cessnas.* Had my commercial licence (that was over 15 years ago) but have not renewed it since as at the time there was a lull in jobs for pilots. Unfortunately I didnt have the determination as my bro-in law has to tough it out.* He started his career only 6 years ago but unlike me he kept at it despite the financial burden.* Hes currently being paid to be an instructor to Cathay Pacific cadets with a job in Cathay Pacific after his contract.

    I also have plenty of tales to tell of trainee pilots landing on taxi ways, single prop. engines catching on fire, Pan Pan calls (no may days thankfully and this was a flight I chose as a back seat observer), and personally the loss of pressure and use of all gyroscopic instruments mid-flight on my first ever solo navigation flight.* Its a colourful career aviation.* Never a dull moment.* I still fly, but now I sit at the back of the plane and get paid to fly all over the world to negotiate contracts with suppliers.

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    Re: Snobs with Wings.....

    Hardly! ;D I could rabbit on for hours about aviation.

    Actually, since my last post in this thread, Ive gone on to gain my Aviation Radio Operator and Aviation Base Operator qualifications with the Rural Fire Service. My goal is to get to Air Base Manager.

    In the past 12 months Ive spent some time doing flight following for the flyboys whove been resupplying various towns due to floods. Only just last month, I was up in Moree, sitting in my natural environment, enjoying the comings and goings of several Jetrangers, a BK117 and a beautiful Dauphine...whilst there, got to see a small jet trainer land, it was a L39 Albatross...had us all out taking photos! :)

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    The things a google search will turn up.

    I was searching for a picture of the Piper Cub that the Nowra RAN Glider Club used to fly and amongst actually finding a great photo someone had taken, I also was led back to this thread!

    So for the record...here is the Piper Cub my husband used to pilot and as I was having a bit of a read back through his logbooks, I saw that it was also the first aircraft I flew in with him as he'd recorded the day and date when we'd gone down to Nowra to fly. My name was in the logbook as "other crew". That was way back in April of 1990.

    I know to the layman that this looks small...but I never had any qualms about jumping in behind him and doing 11 launches that day. Whilst I had certainly done some time flying in RPT's, this was my first experience in something that was this size!




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