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    PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    I want to try a Linux OS

    I like the look of these systems so far
    Ubuntu, PC Linux, Freespire
    Does anybody know of other OS (free)

    They must be good for a novice and work like a windows or apple OS

    So far I have tried Ubuntu on live CD (without install)

    1) Ideally I would prefer to run a Linux based OS on a dedicated external 200+ gig USB hard drive so no partition of the windows hard drive is required
    2) Have Hibernate feature and laptop power management

    My Laptop Bios is already set to start with an external hard drive

    Penny for your thoughts ?? from the CS Linux community :D

    I am looking forward to a lively & informative discussion

    Many thanks
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    I use Linux Mint on all three of my computers. Its based on the latest Ubuntu but is probably more like Windows to use. I find it very simple to use and is great for standard things like internet (Firefox), email (Thunderbird) and office type things (OpenOffice by Sun). If you want to run windows games and other apps there is Wine (this stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator, but basically it is, pretty much!), which will let you run them directly under Linux. I have not used this, I just dual boot XP or Vista, which is easy to set up when you install Mint, and run these when I need to do things that I cant do in Linux. So far this extends to my usb TV tuner but if I was still doing computer geology, I would need to switch back to Windows for some of the apps I needed for that. Also includes an automatic update greebly to keep your software up to date, that I actually trust, unlike the one MS runs. :)

    Two of the computers are notebooks. I dont usually hibernate them but the power handling is OK. Similar to windows. Suspend and hibernate are two of the options when shutting down, Ive just never bothered.

    Networking the three computers and getting printers shared was probably as easy or as hard as in windows. It is working fine now and there is lots of good help on the net because basically it is the same as Ubuntu.

    Pity you werent in Vic, we could have a coffee and I would show you my computers *:D

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    I use Kubuntu at present which uses the KDE environment rather than Gnome (different graphical user interfaces). Ubuntu is certainly up there with the best for the Windows user wanting to stick their toe into the Linux waters.

    Ive also tried Mandriva and Red Hat. Mandriva (2008) was a little buggy and Red Hat is more for the corporate user than the home user. Probably avoid the hard core versions such as Slackware or Debian which require a fair bit of Linux/Unix experience.

    Theres a plethora of free Linux distros (distributions) out there. You need to do some research to see which distro would suit your purpose. Try this website for some good info http://distrowatch.com/.

    Theres also another Linux thread I started on CS around August last year.

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    I use Kubuntu also, recommended to me by JavaB a couple of years ago and havent looked back. An excellent and super reliable o/s, something that Windows strives to be but falls short.... Also use a Multiboot system too as some of the things I need to do wont run properly under Wine so need to have Windows available otherwise it would be Linux full time...

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    > I want to try a Linux OS
    > Does anybody know of other OS (free)
    > So far I have tried Ubuntu on live CD (without install)
    * * *

    "Ubuntu" is based on "Debian unstable" (I use "Debian stable"). *Ubuntu does a very basic Debian install and assumes that you have access to broadband in order to supply the Debian packages that *you* want and that were not on the Ubuntu disk. As background, "Debian unstable" uses all the latest versions of the Debian programs; "Debian stable" is fully debugged and about 2 years out-of-date.

    > They must be good for a novice and work like a windows or apple OS
    Linux has become very much easier to *install* since I started to use it (1999!). But the approach is different. *A learning curve still exists.

    >1) Ideally I would prefer to run a Linux based OS on a dedicated external 200+ gig USB hard drive so no partition of the windows hard drive is required
    My version of the Debian OS needs about 5 GB; it sits on an 80 GB HD and there is room for another 14GB of personal files on the existing Debian partition. *Creating and accessing additional storage space is easy in Linux.

    > 2) Have Hibernate feature and laptop power management
    Included in "Debian"; I dont know if it is on the Ubuntu disk. *Look for features offered by screensavers (xscreensaver, kscreensaver or gnome-screensaver).

    > Penny for your thoughts ?? from the CS Linux community
    If you are in a hurry and have access to broadband, stick with Ubuntu; even at its worst, it is not as buggy as the products that used to be supplied by a more widely used OS. *If you want to be certain that you *never* score an OS-caused crash, use the stable version of Debian (the latest stable version - called "Lenny" *- has just need released).

    In my opinion, a better approach is to do a Google search for a "Linux User Group" in your area; to the best of my knowledge, there is one in every Australian Capital City. *They usually have monthly meetings. *Th eofficial topics discussed at the meetings tend to be highly technical; but there is usually time set aside for Linux Newbies to put their hands up and ask for help. *<If|when> you have found one in your area, send them an email and find out what is on offer.

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    I have just recently installed Ubuntu on my Apple iMac. Dead easy install. Just an experiment so far. Have not yet decided whether I shall use it full time. Need to play around with it some more. I did not install from a disc, downloaded it from my ISP [Internode]s free mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 446069696A6A5044607C62600F0 link=1234880982/0#0 date=1234880982
    2) Have Hibernate feature and laptop power management
    Just a comment on this: while most recent distros should do power management (including hibernate and sleep) this can often be one of the most difficult things to get working properly on a laptop. The reasons is that manufacturers often dont implement the ACPI standards properly (just well enough so that they work in Windows), and so these features will be broken in Linux. While this then looks like a problem with Linux, its actually better thought of as a hardware issue. Consequently, this feature may well depend on which make and model laptop youre using.
    One other thing - Ive never run an OS (linux or Windows) from an external USB connected HDD. I wonder whether there might be problems using power saving modes like hibernate with an external drive? I dont know the answer to this, maybe someone else knows?

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    Thanks for your replies so far

    I am just waiting for the finished version 2009 of PC Linux to become available
    http://www.pclinuxos.com/

    I will try both Ubuntu and PC Linux on Live CD and choose the one I like best

    Felix I will look into Lenny
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    I am running ubunto studio edition on my older box .. it comes with tons of audio recording software for free .. havent had much time to play with it yet though .. but it runs brilliantly on a 2.8 ghz celeron .. thats what I love about linux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4F6C656071090 link=1234880982/4#4 date=1234988208
    "Ubuntu" is based on "Debian unstable" (I use "Debian stable"). *Ubuntu does a very basic Debian install and assumes that you have access to broadband in order to supply the Debian packages that *you* want and that were not on the Ubuntu disk. As background, "Debian unstable" uses all the latest versions of the Debian programs; "Debian stable" is fully debugged and about 2 years out-of-date.
    With (K)Ubuntu though, you do have the option of going with a Long Term Support(LTS) version that doesnt use the latest "bleeding edge" updates. This is the one I use (8.04 LTS) and it is as stable as Eyres Rock... Used the earlier version 6.06 LTS until this one came along and I have nothing but praise for either of them,

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    The Elyssa version of Mint is based on the Ubuntu 8.04 LTS release as well. This is the one I use on all three of my computers and I agree it is rock solid. :)

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    Hi Koffee Kosmo,

    Thought I would chime in, I dont post enough on this site.

    I have ubuntu 8.10 Ibex running on an externerl hard drive. *There are tutorials out there to do it. *The main thing you have to watch out for is that it might put the boot loader (GRUB) on your main hard drive. *If this isnt your intention it could be a problem. *I didnt bother with messing around and going through the tutorials to install on the external hard drive. *I just unplugged the laptop hard drive and did the install as normal. *The great thing about my dell laptop is you can change the boot drive by pressing f11 without having to go into the bios so it works similar to multi-boot. *

    Also note that you wont get as good performance on an external hard drive with usb because of the interface speed, but if you have an esata drive it should be as good as the installed one.

    If you are going to go with ubuntu there are many packages which you will need to install to make it work nice (in my opinion) *Some of these include mp3 codecs, windows fonts, adobe reader, flash etc. *There is a fantastic step by step on doing this located at http://howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-8.10.

    I am also not a big fan of the stock ubuntu theme, but it is very easy to modify. *Other programs that I love to use on desktop installs are gnome-do, amarok and if you want to play with all the great graphics like desktop cube etc you will need to install the package compiz-configuration-manager.

    Just my two cents, hope its helpful.

    BTW *as previously mentioned, check out mint. *It is a great package for someone new to linux wishing to dip there toes in, and you can use all the ubuntu packages.

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    What about opensuse? or suse linux enterprise desktop?

    opensuse has a livecd as well so you can try before installing

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    Dont know that having "Grub" installed on your primary HDD is such a bad thing. As a multiboot utility, its one of the better ones and very easy to maintain/modify....

    Mal.

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    Oh sure Mal,

    But if he wants to keep it totally separate to play around and trail the system, then it is possible to set it up easily without grub.

    Basically thats why I did it that way. I set it up for demonstration purposes to show what is possible at my work and I didnt want grub installed. I personally wouldnt run a desktop over usb anyway. Its just to slow no matter what the OS.

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    Fair enough mate.... :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01222E01222E430 link=1234880982/14#14 date=1235295440
    Oh sure Mal, *

    But if he wants to keep it totally separate to play around and trail the system, then it is possible to set it up easily without grub.

    Basically thats why I did it that way. *I set it up for demonstration purposes to show what is possible at my work and I didnt want grub installed. *I personally wouldnt run a desktop over usb anyway. *Its just to slow no matter what the OS.

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    Thanks for your input bambam
    So if it is to slow to run the Linux OS from a USB drive what is my next option

    I have limited Hard Drive space on my lap top @ 80 gig and its almost full thus the reason I wanted to have the OS on an external drive

    I can fit a larger internal hard drive on the lap top

    Q? - Can I transfer the current XP prof and all stored info from the old hard drive to a new bigger hard drive without problems

    I can then have dual boot
    P.S. I love that cube desktop
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    Hi KK,

    Its not that its too slow. *Its just that I wouldnt like to do it personally if i was going to use it long term. *Just to have a play etc it is much better than the live cd as you can install apps etc.

    Getting a larger hard drive if you are seriously thinking of using Linux would be my preference. *Depending on your budget you can get a high density 500GB 2.5 Sata drive for around $180. *If thats out of your price range you can get a 250GB *for around $100. *

    You can mirror your current dive but it might be difficult if you laptop only has one drive bay. *You should be able to do it with an external hard drive enclosure though if you have one laying around for a 2.5" hard drive. *The software you would need to mirror the drive would be Acronis true image or Norton Ghost. *(i think Acronis is better).

    However if you have a spare external hard drive laying around I highly recommend giving it a whirl for yourself. *You have nothing to loose except an hour or two of your time.

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    BTW Mal,

    Are you running version 4 of KDE? I read somewhere that Linus Torvalds switched to gnome because he didnt like the changes from the previous version. Seems to be a lot of backlash around.

    BeanBay

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    I will get the computer shop to fit a larger hard drive for me
    Or a geek Coffee Snob That works for fresh roasted coffee in South Brisbane

    It will keep the economy turning and as its for "business" ;) its tax deductible

    What do you think of PC Linux as it runs on the Mandriva platform similar to red hat

    Ubuntu is based on Debian

    What is the real difference between these 2 OS platforms

    KK

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    Hi KK,

    I havent used Mandriva before. I have done a lot of work with RHEL4, Fedora and Cent OS from a server perspective and they ware quite good. I would say that I enjoy Debian based packages much more these days as they are very easy to work with and there is so much online support available for them.

    All I can say is if you are keen to give this one a try then go for it. Personally I think that maybe Mint or Ubuntu would be best for someone in your position, from a desktop perspective they seem to just work very well with the minimum of hassles.

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    BTW KK,

    I would be happy to do the job for you if you are ever down the coast. Just give me some notice so I can grab the hardware and software I would need from work.

    BeanBay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 73505C73505C310 link=1234880982/18#18 date=1235302112
    BTW Mal,

    Are you running version 4 of KDE? *I read somewhere that Linus Torvalds switched to gnome because he didnt like the changes from the previous version. *Seems to be a lot of backlash around.

    BeanBay
    Gday again BeanBay...

    I tried KDE4 for a month or so and was experiencing a range of weird behaviour with some of the apps I like to use, system settings that wouldnt stick, random hardware incompatibilities that would mysteriously appear and then just as mysteriously disappear.

    At the time, I didnt put it all down to KDE4 but after doing some research and discovering that others were having problems of one sort or another with it, I reverted back to KDE3.5xx and all of my woes disappeared. In the end, Im not really sure what was going on and why I was experiencing these problems (Im not an IT guy), but the change back to KDE3.5xx certainly fixed things for me.

    @ KK....
    By the way KK, I support everything that "BeanBay" says above about Debian. There are just mountains of support to be found if you need help with anything and though BeanBay alludes to some issues with (K)Ubuntus implementation of the Debian core, it just seems to be so widely supported that 99% of any problems you may experience can be resolved usually within a day or so. As I mentioned above though, Ive decided to stick with the LTS version of Kubuntu as it suits me and I have no desire to keep updating to the bleeding edge every few months. I cant remember when I last had a problem with the LTS versions, and those that I did have were mainly down to my newbie status as a Linux convert, not specifically down to Ubuntu/Debian.

    I think you will be very pleasantly surprised with just how good Linux can be; it does so many things that are streets ahead of the way Windows goes about similar tasks and I havent had a crash or hang for more than 18 months. Its just super reliable.... :)

    Cheers mate,
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    I am glad too hear you didnt suffer to badly from KDE 4 and that it was all resolved relatively easily. *I think a lot of it has now been fixed. *I am a gnome user myself.

    BeanBay.

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    No worries BeanBay.... :)

    Ill be sticking with what Ive got for now, it does everything I want and, I dont want to fiddle around with something that is working so well ;).

    Used Gnome when I first started out but after trying KDE it just seemed to do things a little bit more along windoze lines and so was easier for me to make the overall transition. I go back to Gnome now and again for when I need to play around with system or hardware settings, it seems much better suited than KDE for this sort of work.

    All the best,
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    Q? - Can I transfer the current XP prof and all stored info from the old hard drive to a new bigger hard drive without problems

    I can then have dual boot
    Very out-of-date comments.

    It might be worthwhile to let a computer shop install a larger HD and transfer the Windows XP to it. *Computer shops usually have setups that can do that easily.

    Just make sure that the new HD is given two partitions as part of the install. *And the "Windows partition" is not given more space than is needed to run Windws XP.

    My 2 cents worth.

    Felix *

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    Quote Originally Posted by 45666F6A7B030 link=1234880982/25#25 date=1235509690
    Q? - Can I transfer the current XP prof and all stored info from the old hard drive to a new bigger hard drive without problems

    I can then have dual boot
    Very out-of-date comments.

    It might be worthwhile to let a computer shop install a larger HD and transfer the Windows XP to it. *Computer shops usually have setups that can do that easily.

    Just make sure that the new HD is given two partitions as part of the install. *And the "Windows partition" is not given more space than is needed to run Windws XP.

    My 2 cents worth.

    Felix *
    Well,

    If youre recommending to head in that direction, I think you might as well go the whole hog, meaning you would need a minimum of 4(5) partitions to be created...
    One for your existing system,
    (Optional one for your Windows Apps data),
    One for the Linux Core Files (Root)... 15-20GB would be plenty
    One for your Linux Home Directory... As big as you want, after all, it will contain a lot of your App files and all of your Data, and
    One for the Linux Swap File... A couple of GB is plenty for this.

    Its very highly recommended to create a separate "Home" partition in Linux as whenever you update the Linux System files all of your data and most of your Apps will remain untouched and unaffected. It also makes for a much easier Data Backup Protocol since you only need to backup the Home partition in order to preserve all of your data. Its a good idea to "image" the entire HDD of course as this will make things a lot easier to recover from should you inadvertently screw your Linux system in some way and then be unable to recover it. Its a good safety insurance when you first kick off with an unfamiliar system.

    All the best,
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    Excellent suggestions Mal,
    when I do server installs I do something similar except there is a /tmp partition and a /var partition. *This is mainly for security as the web root is stored under /var/www and the /tmp mount point is shared by users and has the noexec flag in the fstab so no files can be executed from that partition.

    Felix,
    He can easily just mirror what he has to the new hard drive. *Then when he installs ubuntu it will re-size the windows partition and sort everything out automatically.

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    With regards to partitions, my lap top when purchased new came with 2 partitions (drive C & drive D)

    Just an update I sometimes come across a fellow that works in a used computer shop
    Last night was one of those days and I asked him to find me a late model ex government used lap top for under $200
    Will know if he can do it by Thursday

    Fingers crossed as that will become a dedicated Linux Computer

    If that fails I will take all your great advice on board and have the computer shop fit the largest hard drive my lap top computer can support and have dual boot Win XP / Ubuntu

    I do have a hard drive caddy so I will use the old hard drive as an external storage device and recovery file storage
    Unless system recovery is better to be burned on a CD/DVD disc

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    Ubuntu 8.10 is definatley good place to get started with Linux, and 9.04 will be out next month. If you do end up with an older lower powered laptop you will probably want to use a Window Manager that uses less resources such as Fluxbox.

    With backup and recovery data its always best keeping it in as many places as you can.

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    Update

    Since my last post I have been busy downloading & trialling many but not all Linux OS

    As noted above I have tested many Linux distros on live CD

    The one I liked & installed as dual boot is LINUX MINT 9

    I am using it now posting on the forum :D

    Some Observations so far
    Its fast
    Its easy to use
    Its as good as MS Windows
    Easy windows style feel ( easy to migrate from MS windows)

    Some Issues
    How to use Compix - however my graphics card may not be to spec ?

    Find drivers and get my fax/printer working

    Everything else works out of the box as it should

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    Hi All

    Installed ubuntu 10.04LTS on my work laptop a few weeks ago.

    Love it - quick and stable. Can access my windows file systems as well.

    Contemplating making the move to it full time on both my work and home PC.

    Andrew

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    Yep, I used to use Red Hat linux 7-9 and then Fedora before I started using Ubuntu. *I have been running Ubuntu on my work computer for well over 2 years now and it makes a lot of things so much easier.

    If you also have a Windows license you can install VirtualBox or VMWare (I use Workstation, but Server is gratis) you can use Windows like normal from within a virtualised computer running on top of Linux. *Although this doesnt really work so good if you are running lots of different games.

    If you want to get an idea of all the different distributions of Linux there are you can head over to DistroWatch.

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    Quote Originally Posted by 687A790F0 link=1234880982/31#31 date=1274929454
    Hi All

    Installed ubuntu 10.04LTS on my work laptop a few weeks ago.

    Love it - quick and stable. * Can access my windows file systems as well.

    Contemplating making the move to it full time on both my work and home PC. *

    Andrew
    Apparently Mint 9 is based on the Ubuntu 10.04 distro
    They say Mint 9 more elegant
    Its just my preference, I liked Mint 9 more than all the rest so I installed it and now using it

    Still need to sort out my fax/printer though

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    Ive been using Linux for a number of years until just recently.... ::)

    Have switched over to Win7 Pro and so happy with its reliability and performance, have removed Linux from the PC altogether now. May head back to Linux in the future sometime but at this stage, Win7 plus VMware lets me run everything I want these days - with absolutely no fuss at all... 8-)

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    Just something I stumbled on to on Mint 9

    When I open up my music folder and place the arrow on a song title it will play that title
    I dont need to click anything, all that s required is to hover over the title you want to hear, this can be as long as a sample or the whole song

    Move the cursor arrow away and it will stop playing
    Move to another title and it will start playing that title
    Double click and it will open and play as normal

    Cool things I am finding ? as I explore

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57737A7A79794357736F71731C0 link=1234880982/35#35 date=1275002812
    Cool things I am finding ? as I explore
    Yes indeed KK.... :)

    These are all settings that you can configure to suit your own requirements you know... One thing about Linux, it is almost infinitely configurable.... 8-)

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    I have found a link on the Brother site that explains how to install the LPR printer driver as the cups driver is not working

    But the LPR driver needs to be written in the terminal section, I may stuff it up

    Can anyone help if you know how to write linux code in the correct way
    (code with instructions is on the driver site)
    I just need someone to hold my hand just in case I blow up the computer

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    Can someone explain in simple terms why there is a desire to change to an OS other than Windows?
    Seems to me it involves constant messing with drives, searching for drivers to run peripherals and problems with graphics cards etc.
    Not trying to stir, simply attempting to understand why anyone would voluntarily move from an OS that is working well to something that involves so much work and and stuffing around.
    Ive been running XP with Office 2007 since its release without problem, can anyone explain what, if any, benefit I would gain from going to Linux or a similar OS?
    As I said not trying to rock the boat, simply trying to understand, would hate to think I was missing out.
    Oh, and I aint a geek, use a PC as a tool, if it does what its meant to do when its meant to do it Im happy. :)

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    I have not completely changed from XP Pro as I still need to run some proprietary business software on it

    Linux is installed as a dual boot with XP Pro on my computer

    So far the only problem I have come across is my particular Brother Fax/Printer model not the Linux OS
    I had similar problems with XP when I first got it

    The Linux *system recognises the model name and number of my printer but the driver is not available to choose from the preloaded available list
    All other makes and models are also represented and pre loaded automatically just like windows

    Linux Mint or similar distros are just as easy to use as Windows

    Apart from the above
    Everything from Linux Mint was recognised automatically and installed in about 6 minutes

    As to why one would change or use Linux
    I my case its a freedom of choice
    No virus attacks = no virus scanner needed to slow everything down *
    On a community level it helps many people around the world less fortunate as us to use an OS & thousands of software titles for free

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    Quote Originally Posted by 72565F5F5C5C6672564A5456390 link=1234880982/39#39 date=1275185718
    As to why one would change or use Linux
    I my case its a freedom of choice
    No virus attacks = no virus scanner needed to slow everything down
    On a community level it helps many people around the world less fortunate as us to use an OS & thousands of software titles for free
    Fair enough, guess some of us are a little put off by the MS thing, it is pretty much their way or the highway.

    No virus attacks, does that mean you can access bank accounts etc with relative safety?

    I can certainly see the reasons for a cheap OS in developing countries.

    Reason for the original question is I hate to think Im missing out. ;)

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    Linux Mint 9 looks & feels like windows


    One can download it
    Then burn it as an ISO (can be set to be done automatically)
    Use the OS as often as you like from the CD without installing it to the hard drive (but it can be slow)

    If you like it you can then install it

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    Quote Originally Posted by 557178787B7B4155716D73711E0 link=1234880982/41#41 date=1275210642
    Linux Mint 9 looks & feels like windows


    One can download it
    Then burn it as an ISO (can be set to be done automatically)
    Use the OS as often as you like from the CD without installing it to the hard drive (but it can be slow)

    If you like it you can then install it

    KK
    Interesting, something to contemplate. :)

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    Quote Originally Posted by 16323B3B38380216322E30325D0 link=1234880982/39#39 date=1275185718
    The Linux *system recognises the model name and number of my printer but the driver is not available to choose from the preloaded available list
    All other makes and models are also represented and pre loaded automatically just like windows
    Whats the model KK? You might want to check out http://www.openprinting.org/printers

    Ive found in the past that even though our work printer was in the pre-configured list it just wouldnt work for some reason. I downloaded an updated printer config/driver from the openprinting site & it worked first time.
    Basically if your printer is supported youll get a PPD file to download. You can select this when configuring your printer instead of one of the default printers from the list.

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    Re: PC Linux OS & Ubuntu OS

    Quote Originally Posted by 3E293D3C325A0 link=1234880982/43#43 date=1275278328
    Whats the model KK? You might want to check out http://www.openprinting.org/printers

    Ive found in the past that even though our work printer was in the pre-configured list it just wouldnt work for some reason.I downloaded an updated printer config/driver from the openprinting site & it worked first time.
    Basically if your printer is supported youll get a PPD file to download.You can select this when configuring your printer instead of one of the default printers from the list.
    Yes have been to this site
    It represents the same list as its preloaded on the Mint OS already
    Printer Model is Brother MFC-7420

    I just found & can download a driver in zip form, from Brother I just need to work out how to install it manually?

    KK




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