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    Any beersnobs here?

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    Just wondering how many of you are beersnobs too...I am proud to say I am possibly fussier about beer than i am coffee ("ducks for cover") ;D

    I myself am a huge fan of James Squires range, Little Creatures range, Hargreaves Hill Pale Ale, Wicked Elf Pale Ale, Mountain Goats range, I cant be bothered making a complete list I would hurt my brain...

    Bidtfaun would be the name of my brewery if I was to start one...I was into all grain brewing for a few batches toward the end of my last stint....bloody amazing how good it is...worth trying if you can spare 6-7 hours for making a batch...


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    Re: Any beersnobs here?

    I know of one coffeesnob who would confess to being a beersnob.

    Just dont jump to conclusions..... it is not me as Ill drink just about any beer :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6276620303320 link=1232160892/1#1 date=1232163557
    Ill drink just about any beer *:)
    I have to admit I will when I have no choice...but if there is choice (eh bro?)....then the snob comes out... :D

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    If you can get it, try some Erdinger (I think that is how its spelt) - German Wheat Beer, very nice. Also if its avail in Aus some Speights Distinction Ale. Macs Gold or Black Macs.

    How can you be a beer snob on Aussie Beers tho? :P

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    I am indeed a beer snob and can struggle down a couple of carlton draught but could last all night on a single stubbie of vb. Im getting a couple of mates together to try http://ubrewit.com.au

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    aussie microbrewery scene is world class..some have a fair export market....have you tried them? :P

    nevertheless I do enjoy some US beers like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale
    European beers like Pilsner Urquell
    Not huge on wheat beers myself..prefer barley malt beers mostly..

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    I am something of a beersnob...the best drop I have tasted is Whispering Wheat from New Zealand...via my home brew set up!

    Cheers

    PS. Many years ago you wouldnt drink home brew...these days with much of the home brew available and done with love I wouldnt drink commercial beer (except perhaps Coopers but that is because it reminds me of home brew:)

    Cheeeeeeeeerrrsss

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    Some interesting options here, Ill try and find some.

    My standard snobby beer is Little Creatures Pale Ale--on tap. If I cant find that then a Coopers Sparkling Ale, or Pale Ale in desperation.

    I used to like Heineken, but now its brewed in Aust. it tastes completely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0A3C37382D362B590 link=1232160892/3#3 date=1232164337
    How can you be a beer snob on Aussie Beers tho? *

    oooh -- thems foightn wurdz... *>:(

    cept if you mean that p*ss sold by CUB or Fosters -- couldnt agree more.

    I mean, why would you bother when theres so much good "off the shelf" stuff available?

    Not to mention the great microbreweries around now -- heres a few more: Beechworth in Vic, Knappsteins in SA, Feral in WA...

    Little creatures is way over-rated tho (IMHO ;) )



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    I am a beersnob. OG and I brew our own. The only aussie beer brand I will buy is Coopers.

    Im with you on the full grain beers. A lot of work, but boy are they worth it.

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    I confess to being a beersnob. Am always on the look-out for a high quality brew.

    I cant drink standard mass produced beer (tooheys, vb, carlton, xxxx, etc...) either in bottle or draught.

    My favourite bottled beer is Samuel Adams Boston Lager (but very pricey if and when I can get it).

    However, I am very fortunate to live a few hundred metres from my favourite drop of all - being the beer brewed on-site at George IV Inn, Picton (NSW) - Sharers Lager and Burragorang Bock. (They also have it at the Australian Hotel in at The Rocks, but its not nearly as good.)

    What we lack in quality coffee around here is (IMMHO) made up for by the beer.

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    I was introduced to a few of the German wheat beers a couple of years ago by a friend, and Ive never looked back, and my bank balance hasnt caught up yet either :o.
    My favourites in that category would be, in no particular order:
    Paulaner, Maisels Weisse and Hoegaarden.
    Ive also just recently had the pleasure of sampling a great local (ACT) micro-brewery called Zierholz. Theyre in Fyshwick and have a great little bar and tasting area there. The only problem with them is that you cant get takeaway, unless you want a mini-keg, and they have a limited selection of outlets. Oh well, its a good excuse to venture over the Clyde mountain every once in a while though ;).

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    Re: Any beersnobs here?

    Quote Originally Posted by 42445742494047505151250 link=1232160892/4#4 date=1232165393
    Im getting a couple of mates together to try http://ubrewit.com.au
    You should be happy with it too.
    We first tried u-brewit about 5 years ago when they opened in Geelong, its a fun day out with a group of friends. If you do it with enough people you can brew a lot os different beers and split them up between you.

    They had a coffee beer (hmmm so so) but their Indian Pale Ale was a stunner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 77544D5E423B0 link=1232160892/11#11 date=1232175497
    I was introduced to a few of the German wheat beers a couple of years ago by a friend, and Ive never looked back, and my bank balance hasnt caught up yet eitherShocked.
    My favourites in that category would be, in no particular order:
    Paulaner, Maisels Weisse and Hoegaarden.

    I like the Hoegaarden too, but its not a German wheat beer. Its a Belgian white beer. Nothing like German weizen. Plus it has coriander and orange peel added. As you can see, Im a beersnob too ;)

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    Re: Any beersnobs here?

    Definitely a beersnob am I
    Will drink carleton draught if i have to but my faves are
    • James Squire Amber Ale
    • Coopers Pale Ale
    • Coopers Sparkling
    • Boags St George
    • Kilkenny
    • Guiness
    • Any Little Creatures

    Always on the look out for one i have not tried.
    I also brew beer but they are not in the same standard yet.

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    Re: Any beersnobs here?

    I must confess to being a bit of a novice beer snob. At the moment Im just enjoying mucking around with home brewing but my beer snobbery is way behind my coffee snobbery still. My favs would have to be little creatures and coopers pale ale, but trying to find a good beer on the Sunshine Coast is harder than trying to find a good coffee. And finding a good beer on tap is out of the question.


    Quote Originally Posted by 32040F00150E13610 link=1232160892/3#3 date=1232164337
    How can you be a beer snob on Aussie Beers tho? :P
    5 years ago I would have said the exact same thing, but after jumping the ditch I can say with 100% certainty that Auzzie beer leaves NZ breweries for dust. When I took my wife back to NZ we went and bought all my old favorite NZ beers and with a long BBQ tasted them all. I was as unimpressed as she was. I ate humble pie the rest of the holiday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 606D6E60020 link=1232160892/14#14 date=1232225973
    Definitely a beersnob am I
    Will drink carleton draught if i have to ....

    Mal
    Carlton Draught and VB are not real beer anyway anyone who uses a 3 day brew process is right up there with Caterers Blend :P

    Coopers Pale everyday beer.
    Coopers Extra Vintage when available is supurb :)
    Killkenny
    Hatlifter Stout or the Moonshine from these guys http://www.grand-ridge.com.au/flash.asp
    or I am a bit partial to Weisbeers of many types icey cold with a slice of lemon 8-) Or a Corona in a pinch.

    Nearly as many types of Beers as Beans. Hey Andy want to start another site ;D

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    One of the things I miss about home...


    http://www.oregonbrewfest.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 724B4D4C4747507D704D4351564750220 link=1232160892/15#15 date=1232228703
    5 years ago I would have said the exact same thing, but after jumping the ditch I can say with 100% certainty that Auzzie beer leaves NZ breweries for dust.
    Speights on tap is not too bad.

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    Re: Any beersnobs here?

    In Canberra we also have http://www.wigandpen.com.au/

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    I still havent found a better beer than Franziskaner.

    Upon arriving in the town of Bacharach on the Rhine river, Germany, my partner and I embarked on a difficult trek up a steep hill to the castle which has been converted into a hostel. *It was a warm day and our heavy backpacks didnt help matters, so upon reaching the summit we had acquired a bit of a thirst. *We sat down in the bar and selected the first beer on the menu. *Franziskaner. *As the first traces of this cold, crisp, amber, flavoursome weissbier touched my lips, I knew it would be a long time before Id find a beer of this calibre again...


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1A313C2C3E392D36580 link=1232160892/0#0 date=1232160892
    Just wondering how many of you are beersnobs too...I am proud to say I am possibly fussier about beer than i am coffee ("ducks for cover") ;D
    I am in someways fussier about beer than coffee; you know what you are getting with a beer, it has a label. When you walk into a new coffee place you dont!

    I cant stand anything brewed by Carlton or Tooheys. I get very offended when take another beer and screw it up ("Brewed under license").

    Like Belgian beers, love German.

    As for Aussie I can drink Coopers.
    I like MSB/James Squire.
    I love Hargreaves Hill, Knappstein and Coldstream brewery (only had it on tap. Great restaurant, food is amazing, coffee isnt too bad either)

    I did the home brew for about 5 years. Took up too much time and space. Could always make beer better than most Aussie brewers but never close to the German. Also didnt drink enough to make it worth while.
    Although like roasting coffee you could make it how you like.
    I even made a "green leaf" beer once :D If you know what I mean!

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    For a country better known for their coffee and cuisine, the Italians make a very nice drop - Peroni. I first had one in Leichhardt about 20 years ago and still like it. Nice crisp style with enough bite/ bitterness to let you know youre drinking it.

    And (as opposed to those "made under licence") still brewed in Italy.

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    I too am a total beer snob - Coopers Best Extra Stout is my poison of choice. Although, Bootleg Brewery do a nice chocolately/coffee stout occasionally, though you pay for the experience & the bottles are a 330mL. Which is not quite enough, so you need to have 2 8-)

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    Re: Any beersnobs here?

    I am not a beer snob
    However I do like beer but like spirits more

    I like Cyprus Brandy and Drambuie

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    Re: Any beersnobs here?

    another hophead here, too.
    I go through phases...Coopers Stout is the go at the moment.
    Probably the nicest beer for me, though, is Chimay Blue
    cheers and beers

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    Beer snob here too.

    If were talking brewed under licence Andys going to have to get extremly violent smileys >:( just doesnt do it.

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    Yep...beer snob.

    One of my favourites is Old Speckled Hen. Quite distinctive.

    Regulars are DAB (a great German drop), Coopers Pale and Dark, Blue Tongue...

    More importantly (ducking for cover), I am a scotch whiskey snob. That is a drink for us more refined drinkers :P
    Springbank 15 year thanks ;).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0C3D2A3332353E33255C0 link=1232160892/27#27 date=1234780099
    More importantly (ducking for cover), I am a scotch whiskey snob. That is a drink for us more refined drinkers :P
    Springbank 15 year thanks ;).
    :)Talisker and Lagavulin for me! :)

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    :)Talisker and Lagavulin for me! :) [/QUOTE]

    Love a Lagavulin myself (whew...didnt mean for it to be a tongue twister). Ill have to try Talisker again soon...its been a very long time and I dont remember the taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 637A6C66616B6E0F0 link=1232160892/9#9 date=1232170718
    The only aussie beer brand I will buy is Coopers.
    i used to review beers for the newcastle herald for five years or so until recently and in that time the beer scene in australia was completely transformed.

    coopers and james squire are no longer the only decent beers around. new small breweries are springing up everywhere and most of them are good - they have to be, because they survive on the quality of their product, not the size of their advertising budget.

    if anyone sees a beer called Crema, by Matilda Bay, id recommend you buy it at any price. it was a seasonal beer from the people who make redback etc, and may or may not come out again. it was made with real coffee as part of the liquor. the brewer was very particular about his coffee and went to the expense of buying a roaster just so he could get it how he liked it. then he made beer with it.

    i always like holgate beers, although some australian drinkers might find them a little strange.

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    Seriously, We drink to get Pissed. A Belgian Raspberry Kriek unpasturised in Houston Tx, and a Mexican Negro Modello were outstanding.. Australia needs to let in unpasturised Beers..

    Currently drinking xxxx cans - better in stubbies.
    A 70 yr old mate takes the piss out of his BIL who is a wine Nazi by putting Ice into his wine selections.

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    Currently drinking James Squire Amber Ale out of the fridge.

    Have been told to look out for Emersons - out of Dunedin, NZ. BIG raps for it. Havent found it around here - sells all over NZ plus distributors in Vic, Qld & WA. The web site looks very inviting.

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    Little Creatures Bright Ale is one of the best beers ive tasted. James Squire Golden Ale is another fave, brewed just round the corner from me too.
    Senator, yes, Erdinger Bavarian Weissbier is really lovely, but cant agree about your aussie beers/ no snob comment. I think SOME australian beers are SOME of the best beers available. Do love the Belgian and German white beers though. Drinking a beautiful Paulaner Hefe-Weissbier at the moment. Very rich. Hmmmmmm. Sometimes wish they hardly contained alcohol so i could drink more than one or two on a weeknight. Same as with coffee. wish i could drink it all day without any sleep/lack of problems. Oh well. I guess thats what keeps it special, not being able to over indulge so often.

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    Hey cool I never noticed this start. My beer snobbery rivals the coffee one. What do you base it on? Ive spent more on coffee, but coffee stuff is worth a lot more. Ive also built a brewery where I brew from cracking my own grain to filtering, and serving from bottles or from taps.

    If I ever buy beer it is LCPA or bright ale. More often the pale. Top stuff :)

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    Im loving most of the boutique aussie beers.

    Standouts for me lately have been:
    - an Oyster Stout from Hunter Valley Brewing Co. They boiled oysters into the brew. Think Stout with salt.
    - a lager from the same brewery. it was amazing.
    - the latest batch of Matilda Bay Beez Neez has been an improvement on the past.
    - James Squire Amber Ale is still a solid performer.

    Probably my most memorable beer was a Chimay Grande Reserve - not the massive one with the gold wrapping at the mouth of the bottle, but the size down from that. Which I got through in one sitting. Mind you, I decided that staying seated would be a good idea after that...

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    oh, and Moo Brew Pilsener was a good drop.

    And anything from Red Oak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4C405555584B210 link=1232160892/36#36 date=1237984593
    oh, and Moo Brew Pilsener was a good drop.

    And anything from Red Oak.
    Agreed, plus I like Knappstein reserve lager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3E3227272A39530 link=1232160892/35#35 date=1237984512
    Im loving most of the boutique aussie beers.

    Standouts for me lately have been:
    - an Oyster Stout from Hunter Valley Brewing Co. They boiled oysters into the brew. Think Stout with salt.
    - a lager from the same brewery. it was amazing.
    - the latest batch of Matilda Bay Beez Neez has been an improvement on the past.
    - James Squire Amber Ale is still a solid performer.

    Probably my most memorable beer was a Chimay Grande Reserve - not the massive one with the gold wrapping at the mouth of the bottle, but the size down from that. Which I got through in one sitting. Mind you, I decided that staying seated would be a good idea after that...
    Potters were always good, and ever since Keith took over as master brewer they have only got better. I highly recommend the Kolsch and the Wit (if they are still running the wit, thats more of a summer thing). Big props to him. And I have one of those chimay grande reserves ready to crack soon :)

    The only difference with any of the fancy chimay bottles is that they have been aged. The blue is the only one that takes well to aging, so they bottle them in bigger bottles with dates on them. Get a case of the little chimay blues and crack one every year for the next several years and you can see how the flavour develops :)

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    wow, I think Im going to try that!

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    Just out of interest how long can you keep Chimay blue for? I found a 2001 sitting in with some reds the other day when I was giving them a turn :)

    At 9% better have a mate around ;)

    Tonights roasting beer is Redback with a slice of Lemon. Beans are Yemen, Harrar, Robusta and Indian TM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5E595D525A504555525B3C0 link=1232160892/40#40 date=1239091716
    ust out of interest how long can you keep Chimay blue for? I found a 2001 sitting in with some reds the other day when I was giving them a turn
    i read of a vertical tasting of about 25 chimay blue vintages and i think they said the 15-year-old was the cut-off point. after that it became a little limp. coopers vintage doesnt last that long but ive had some 6 years old and it was still drinkable. just not that lively.

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    Has anybody tried any of the beers on offer from the Mudgee brewing company?

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    Love a beer right now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D283F3D6E6B5A0 link=1232160892/43#43 date=1239626307
    Love a beer right now!
    if you want something to scour the throat and sterilise the gut, try and get hold of some Icon2IPA from Murrays Brewery.
    but get a mate to drink it with - youll have trouble finishing the bottle on your own.

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    Some reasonable beers in Japan. Asahi is one. cant remember the others as it was about 10 years ago. what i thought amazing was that you can buy a beer from vending machines while waiting for a train.Brilliant! imagine trying that in Australia.

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    have recently been getting into Macs Brewery Hop Rocker Pilsner...made in Wellington, NZ...really quite nice and my local is selling 6 packs with a free glass... 8-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5B6E797B282D1C0 link=1232160892/45#45 date=1239661902
    Some reasonable beers in Japan. Asahi is one. cant remember the others as it was about 10 years ago. what i thought amazing was that you can buy a beer from vending machines while waiting for a train.Brilliant! imagine trying that in Australia.
    Kiren is another good one but Asahi for my taste. Had a few Sapporos as well at a little Japanese Restaurant round the corner from St Ali.

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    Yeah thanks beanflying couldnt remember those 2. Asahi is good . Cant remember what Sapporo or Kiren was like. Have to try them again. The Japanese do like a drink but cant handle it to well i found.

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    Im definitely a beer snob and like bitdfaun fussier about beer than coffee, perhaps its the timeframe involved, 15 years with beer and less than 5 months with coffee ..... well decent espresso at home coffee.

    Matilda Bay Bohemian Pilsner is beyond peer on a hot Central Qld afternoon while an amber ale from James Squire works wonders in winter.

    Also keep an eye out for the limited release James Squire beers, Golden Ale usually comes out late in the year for the warmer months and a few years back they made a limited release stout ... I think it was called winter warmer.

    Best beer had to be James Squire limited release Colonial Wheat Beer pity it hasnt been seen in Qld for a good many years.



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