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    I bought mine this morning on a plan and was thinking I might takes some hi-def video on it and some still shots and see what I can get out of it .. Ill post some pictures later.
    In the mean time - any coffee snobs own an iPhone 4 yet or plan to?

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    AM calls them I-bricks

    I dont plan to get one as
    I only use my phone to make phone calls and to check the time ::)

    And about 20 text messages a year :o

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by 312836382A3C2F306A6C6C5D0 link=1280495110/0#0 date=1280495110
    I bought mine this morning on a plan and was thinking I might takes some hi-def video on it and some still shots and see what I can get out of it .. Ill post some pictures later.
    In the mean time - any coffee snobs own an iPhone 4 yet or plan to?
    if there were any left i would grab one!

    any truth to the antenna problems?

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by 333B323C2B2B2C305E0 link=1280495110/2#2 date=1280498841
    Quote Originally Posted by 312836382A3C2F306A6C6C5D0 link=1280495110/0#0 date=1280495110
    I bought mine this morning on a plan and was thinking I might takes some hi-def video on it and some still shots and see what I can get out of it .. Ill post some pictures later.
    In the mean time - any coffee snobs own an iPhone 4 yet or plan to?
    if there were any left i would grab one!

    any truth to the antenna problems?
    NEVER...

    And yep.

    Even the current I-Bricks have issues with reception... Ya just need to have the test equipment to turn the observations into hard data. Or do a side by side with other hardware..

    As I say... Its an app store... Not a phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4F474E405757504C220 link=1280495110/2#2 date=1280498841
    any truth to the antenna problems?
    No issues yet.
    Lose 1 out of 4 bars of reception when I "deathgrip" it. Otherwise so far its falwless..
    Not to be a fanboy or anything - but like Apple has tried to show - it happens to most phones.
    My 3 year old Nokia slider phone loses bars when I grip it..
    Effectively speaking it is never affected when youre using it so theres really nothing to complain about. :)

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    Went into a store a couple of weeks back looking to upgrade my mobile, this 20 something sales person gave me the spiel on the latest and greatest, proudly pointing out all of the attributes of the latest $1000 plus electronic offerings, but failed to mention any thing about using them as a phone, he seemed a little nonplussed when I asked about this aspect, and explained that there was a whole lot more to them than making phone calls ::) needless to say I still have my 4 year old Nokia, its simple, works like a charm, and owes me nothing, its a phone. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69706E6072647768323434050 link=1280495110/0#0 date=1280495110
    I might takes some hi-def video on it and some still shots and see what I can get out of it .. Ill post some pictures later.
    Congrats on your new toy.
    It will be great to see real user feedback after you have had a play.


    What was your previous phone Luke?


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    When the first i-phone came out the only thing it seemed to have that my Nokia didnt, was a touchscreen and my phone did a few things it didnt.

    I now use a Blackberry after many years of Nokias and now that Im used to it it does what I want.

    I dont need a touchscreen as Im forever cleaning the screen on this one after accidentally touching it.

    Like KK I rarely text, though with all the free SMS on my plan I think Im up to 30 text a year now.

    I use my BeanBay to make calls, hold all my contacts details and send the occasional SMS and email when it suits me.

    My daughter works for a telco and she, my son, my wife and I all use BBs now.

    Shes 20 something but doesnt think the i-brick is the gadget to have.


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    My iPhone4 is on order--to be delivered in about 3 weeks.

    This is an upgrade from my now 2 year old iPhone3. The new one will get better reception in the country (it accesses all the MHz options) which is really useful when out on the motorcycle, and will be considerably faster. On the tiny plan I use I make very few calls or texts. Telstra gives it a blue tick for excellent reception. Just dont short the antenna!

    I really consider it a vestpocket computer, and use it as such. Scheduling, diary, contacts, email, news and web browsing (especially when clients dont show and I have to wait an hour for the next), games, music, digital books, videos, camera, GPS, notes, etc.

    And its a toy in itself--jailbreaks, playing with apps, ...

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    Oh--it makes calls as well?

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    I too was a phone is a phone guy til I was talked in to getting an i-phone...

    ... Im afraid to say, but its pretty damn good. I use for stuff I never thought I would.

    I find those blackberry keypads useless imo.

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    My previous phone was a Nokia slider phone which I had for 3 years.
    I didnt buy the original phone 3 years ago because I knew I wouldnt call or txt enough to make up for paying 49 dollars a month.

    I average about 200+ text messages a month and not even 40 phone calls a month.. With the plans they offer now I find it to have more then enough credit and plenty of data.
    Because I text mostly, I needed a phone that could keep up with my fingers. My Nokia would literally lag several words or even a sentence behind me as I typed using the old T9 predictive texting. The iPhone is SO quick to respond to your touch its pretty amazing. Unlike other touch screens its heat receptive and glass so it doesnt miss-detect due to uneven pressure etc. Being able to turn it sideways to text on a decent keyboard is excellent.
    THe other excellent thing about texting on an iphone is being able to read your texts as conversation bubbles for each person (like on an IM). No more accidentally hitting the red button and "Saving to Drafts".
    I found blackberrys and other smart phones too small to type on. Sure they have a qwerty keyboard but the keys are so tiiny. If youre not a texting person then the blackberry might be for you.


    I use my iphone for EVERYTHING... Having so much data in a plan allows me to just browse the web, play online games, facebook, weather, news and all that stuff any time I want which happens to be often considering Im part of Gen Y - the "social" generation.

    Dad has an iPhone 3GS which he only bought a month ago because the plan was so cheap and his old Sony Ericsson died. He didnt necessarily want an iphone, but at the time it was the best deal around. He uses his for purely phone calls and not much else. He hasnt even activated the 3G data yet..

    In regards to the antenna issues - they dont exist unless you want it to. Grip it tight and cover the antenna join and you might lose a couple of bars of reception.. But it hurts to hold it in such a fashion so why would you? On that note - its a $800 phone - why wouldnt you put a case on it!?


    After getting the iPhone I dont think Ill ever go back to a standard "it makes phone calls" phone.

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    I personally wouldnt go with apple after the IOS 4.0 bungle, they really have stuffed it for 3G and a lot of 3GS customers now looking at downgrading back to IOS 3.X , im looking at the HTC desire for my next phone......hmmmm 1 Gb ram! 5 Meg camera, a rapidly growing app store, with the option to return apps free of charge......1gb processor i think too!.....in a phone!, and all the customization you could get in a hacked iphone....standard! thats just me though......and prolly AM too! ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 494D6B727277687F701E0 link=1280495110/11#11 date=1280560408
    I personally wouldnt go with apple after the IOS 4.0 bungle, they really have stuffed it for 3G and a lot of 3GS customers now looking at downgrading back to IOS 3.X , im looking at the HTC desire for my next phone......hmmmm 1 Gb ram! 5 Meg camera, a rapidly growing app store, with the option to return apps free of charge......1gb processor i think too!.....in a phone!, and all the customization you could get in a hacked iphone....standard! thats just me though......and prolly AM too! ;D
    YEP...

    As to reception.. Some may be OK None of our service rems can get reception in areas that we need... And no we do not all have mitts for hands.

    Two phones side by side and swap sims and we can get a working system Vs not... Evedance not marketing :-)

    Further more as we need a real tool, unless teh I-brick is Broken / hacked OR a payed app installed... We can not use it to do some of teh most basic things - Yes I am an MSCP and and real IT person not a script kiddy ;D

    Thus teh HTC is a better option for us as to usability..

    Now get rid of teh MAC OS and that brick could become a tile ;)

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    I have always been a nokia fan till my boss brought me a 3GS a couple of months ago for my work phone - now im looking at selling my nokia and getting the new Iphone4 as my personal phone.

    I heard there was alot of probs with the 4.0 upgrade for my phone so I didnt upgrade till last fortnight when the 4.01 upgrade came out - havent had a problem at all.

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    all interesting and valid points

    People I know who have been BeanBay, WM and then iPhone users have all jumped to the Desire, but then went back to BeanBay or iPhone.

    Personally, I am on my second blackberry and I love the qwerty keyboard plus response times and ease of use. It does everything i need it to, and then some.

    In saying that, I also want to give an iPhone a run and see what the hype is about. It wont be my business phone, thats reserved for the BeanBay.

    And yes, I am a techie. MCP (plus a bunch of others) and an IT Manager earning my stripes by building and breaking real world solutions.

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    Seems half the posters in this thead want to go off topic so I will too.

    I hear good things of the Blackberry but didnt like the older versions I used much.

    The iphone4 appeals with a big screen (great for web and email) and plenty of apps that only appear for the iphone (at the moment).

    Every HTC I have used is cluncky, slow and have horrible interfaces. *It looks good on a spec sheet but using it is something else.

    The Nexus1 (Google Phone) came close to a goer. *I love the idea of noise cancelling and had some good features but the hardware spec is a tad behind the current smart phones.

    The Samsung Galaxy S is top of my list at the moment. *It runs Googles OS Android and has an amazing screen that is bright, clear and works in sunlight. *Andriod apps are being written at a great rate and being open source and I expect will overtake the Apple store offerings in the future.

    For July the Galaxy S was an Optus exclusive, as of August 1st the other telcos are allowed to sell it and Ive been waiting to see what happens with the plans.

    So... just to get back on topic... the iphone4 does appeal and is not crossed off my list but the Samsung might be just infront.

    I REALLY need to ditch my Nokia N73 as it now needs a reboot nearly every day now and the speakers are sounding bad too.

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    Hey Andy - Dont Samsung make the Galaxy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7B737A7463636478160 link=1280495110/16#16 date=1280572732
    Dont Samsung make the Galaxy?
    Oops, yes they do (and I knew that). I have edited the above, ta.

    I just found out that Samsung and Optus have extended their 1 month exclusive aaaarrrggghhh...

    On the back of a successful month of sales through Optus, Samsung have decided to extend the exclusive deal for the Galaxy S to be Optus-only for another month, ending 31st August.


    Just when I thought it was the week that I would bite the bullet, sign for 2 years and replace my dying phone. Not too sure the Nokia will make another month without getting thrown across the snobbery.

    Why is getting a new phone so complicated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2129202E39393E224C0 link=1280495110/14#14 date=1280566433
    I also want to give an iPhone a run and see what the hype is about.
    I think its a combination of loyalty of customers, exclusivity and good marketing that generates the hype around the iPhone 4, rather then the features it actually has.

    The Galaxy is apparently an awesome phone for those who dont want the iPhone. I think the reason the iPhone works so well is because Apple make the phone, the software, the hardware and control the apps.

    Ive played with several HTC phones at work a few times and I LOVE their displays and their design, however, the OS never quite seems to keep up with your fingers like the iPhone does.

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    Ive just finished filming and editing a short video of me making a latte on my iphone.
    Im uploading it now - but it takes an hour in HD. Ill link you guys to it when its done. Im not sure where.. maybe in Art if coffee videography counts??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 647D636D7F697A653F3939080 link=1280495110/19#19 date=1280631419
    Ive just finished filming and editing a short video of me making a latte on my iphone.
    No matter how hard I try, I cant get my iPhone to make a latte... :(

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    Hahah poor english error. sorry :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by 045B43555E5559505053535B5758360 link=1280495110/20#20 date=1280633059
    No matter how hard I try, I cant get my iPhone to make a latte
    You need to download the right app.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 210E0419600 link=1280495110/17#17 date=1280580883
    On the back of a successful month of sales through Optus, Samsung have decided to extend the exclusive deal for the Galaxy S to be Optus-only for another month, ending 31st August.
    Eyeing the same phone Andy and equally annoyed at the Optus deal. The problem is that I think it may well be more expensive when it hits the other networks - Vodafone suggested $0 on a $79 cap.

    But damn it is a nice phone!

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    filmed it on my iphone 4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cbhOahRsBg

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    iPhone at risk from security flaw

    Security firms are warning of a vulnerability in Apples iOS for iPhone, iPad and iPod.

    Symantec said that it could be exploited by remote attackers to take complete control of a vulnerable device.

    Full article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10865288


    Java "Jailbreak!" phile

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    Quote Originally Posted by 43687F68796160656C090 link=1280495110/25#25 date=1280937519
    iPhone at risk from security flaw

    Security firms are warning of a vulnerability in Apples iOS for iPhone, iPad and iPod.

    Symantec said that it could be exploited by remote attackers to take complete control of a vulnerable device.

    Full article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10865288

    Java "Jailbreak!" phile
    Interesting, as this "flaw" has actually been used to allow for jailbreak and unlock iPhone 3GS and the new iPhone4 and iPad as well.

    If you do unlock, its important to change passwords on the root and mobile directories from the defailt one. The methods use terminal and are easy to find. Also, a Cydia application exists to warn of all .pdf opening events and ask the user for permission. These 2 measures are enough to secure you from current threats.

    For those who havent jailbroken and unlocked, nothing of real concern to worry about ;)

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    Just ordered my wife one after much nagging. Got it for 163,000 Qantas frequent flyer points which we have no hope of using to fly anywhere. Should be here next week. Shes currently with Tel$tra 3G but that might change... depends on plans. Im not wanting to spend more than $50 a month on a plan.

    Any tips for a first time iphone user? Im sure she will be looking to me for tech support!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 614C4E484544402D0 link=1280495110/27#27 date=1280971644
    *Got it for 163,000 Qantas frequent flyer points which we have no hope of using to fly anywhere. *
    have you never heard of Paris or NY or Rome or ????? OMG

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4075787F4B577B72727171140 link=1280495110/26#26 date=1280949433
    For those who havent jailbroken and unlocked, nothing of real concern to worry about
    Hhhmmm....Not true. It is Mobile Safari on a non-Jailbroken unit that is vulnerable to this exploit, as stated in the article I linked too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 406D6F696465610C0 link=1280495110/27#27 date=1280971644
    Im not wanting to spend more than $50 a month on a plan.
    If you go on a 49$ plan you get the phone for 120 dollars (5 a month.) - Couldve kept the FF points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3539303D3D34580 link=1280495110/28#28 date=1280972065
    have you never heard of Paris or NY or Rome or ????? OMG
    Yep, just got back from 4 weeks in the UK. Problem is I have 2 kids to kart around and the seat restrictions when using points are a pain. If I go anywhere near the UK, BA seem to know Im coming and go on strike and are partners with Qantas! :(

    Went Singapore air this time, and Emarities on the way back. Singapore air was great.

    Also by wife had enough points to fly around the world with Ansett, lost them all when they went down the toilet. Use em while you can I say!

    Ah well, the wife will be happy, and its unlocked so she can use any network. Havent used one myself and dont really need one but I have to learn about it so that I can teach her. ;D

    Quote Originally Posted by 342D333D2F392A356F6969580 link=1280495110/30#30 date=1280987287
    If you go on a 49$ plan you get the phone for 120 dollars (5 a month.)- Couldve kept the FF points.
    What network? And is that a 32Gb IP4?

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    Voda. 16GB

    the 32GB is $240 on a 49 cap.

    OR go Optus 59 = free phone. unlimited text. 550 worth of calls. 2 gb data.

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    If youve bought the phone outright, all you need to do is find the right balance between phone calls and data use.

    The mobile web is quite economical and unless you are streaming radio it is (I suspect) unlikely that you would use up a reasonable date allowance.

    When I checked my data use (iPhone3) I found that with reading the NY Times, some odd searches, a bit of checking my work email (via web) etc. I had managed to use the grand total of 150 MB in TWO YEARS! Most of my time using data ends up being over the local Wi-Fi network cause the phone defaults to Wi-Fi if available.
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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    quick question here: *Can it be claimed on tax? *legit?

    Would you need to buy it outright to do this?

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    I u
    Quote Originally Posted by 6A626B6572727569070 link=1280495110/34#34 date=1281098221
    quick question here: *Can it be claimed on tax? *legit?

    Would you need to buy it outright to do this?

    I use mine almost exclusively for work, and pay it off on a "plan" and the Tax Office hasnt questioned the 75% deduction I claim.

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    thanks for the tip Greg....

    Now just to get my mitts on one - it seems all the teeny-boppers have bagged all the AU stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by 525A535D4A4A4D513F0 link=1280495110/36#36 date=1281099840
    it seems all the teeny-boppers have bagged all the AU stock
    Still young, still fast. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 504957594B5D4E510B0D0D3C0 link=1280495110/37#37 date=1281133015
    Quote Originally Posted by 525A535D4A4A4D513F0 link=1280495110/36#36 date=1281099840
    it seems all the teeny-boppers have bagged all the AU stock
    Still young, still fast. *;)
    And still sitting ducks for slick advertising. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 615D544C59380 link=1280495110/38#38 date=1281138775
    And still sitting ducks for slick advertising.
    At least its good advertising for a good product :)

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    I love, love, love my 32g 3GS iPhone - Ive had it for about 9 months now and will probably hang on to it until the plan runs out in October next year, by which stage Im guessing the iPhone 5 will be out.

    Ive upgraded each of the OSs each time theyve come out (currently on OS4.1) and have not had any problems that people report, although I tend not to use it to surf the web unless I really need to - my eyesight is too poor to read the tiny writing and Id rather use a real computer screen to read.

    Ive never JBd because Ive never felt the need to, but I do have a lot of apps on mine, both paid and free. By far the most useful one is my Tom Tom App, which I use constantly. To me, it was worthwhile buying the iPhone just to have Tom Tom on it, but with the added bonus of making calls, playing games, texting, etc.

    Love it all around and wouldnt swap it for the world. And, no, not an Apple Fangurl - its the first and only Apple product I own, I just think its a brilliant mobile device!

    Love the video, Luke - will send it to my mum as she only recently purchased her LeLit and it might give her something to hone her skills by, since Im not there to guide her.

    Cheers
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    love my iphone - have the same as you Di.

    nice and easy to use and it works well with corporate email etc..


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    Quote Originally Posted by 052234263E4D0 link=1280495110/40#40 date=1281224489
    Ive never JBd because Ive never felt the need to
    Back in 2007 I bought the original iPod Touch when it came out - the one without the speaker and before the "App Store" even existed!

    I jailbroke that device because there were no such things as games on iPod or iPhone until 08 with the introduction of iPhone 3G and the App Store.
    Since the App Store I restored and have never JBd again. My iPhone is running OS 4 and so far I havent found anything I need that it doesnt have.

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    I love my iPhone 3Gs. I got mine in March after my sony erriccson bit the dust for a second time, just after the plan ran out.

    I love the way texting works with following the conversation and the keyboard is big enough for me to see. I dont have too many apps yet, but have a couple of highly addictive games. Be warned - Angry birds is very maddeningly addictive *;D

    As a mac user I just love that I have a phone that finally syncs to my computer without any problems.

    Lacehim, the phone is very straightforward to use and you can get the manuals here.
    http://support.apple.com/manuals/iphone/

    And there is an online support where people can ask questions and get help and advice here. You need and Apple dot com account though - which is free
    http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=245

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    Thanks lucinda, downloading the manual now! Lets hope its not too addictive or Ill have to have buy one too!

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1702100B0A06630 link=1280495110/23#23 date=1280925716
    Quote Originally Posted by 210E0419600 link=1280495110/17#17 date=1280580883
    On the back of a successful month of sales through Optus, Samsung have decided to extend the exclusive deal for the Galaxy S to be Optus-only for another month, ending 31st August.
    Eyeing the same phone Andy and equally annoyed at the Optus deal. The problem is that I think it may well be more expensive when it hits the other networks - Vodafone suggested $0 on a $79 cap.

    But damn it is a nice phone!
    Well, I tossed and turned and the iPhone 4 ended up equal second choice with the HTC Desire (only available on tight-Telstra plans).

    The Galaxy S on an Optus business plan of $89/mth with 3 months free works out to $78/mth and has unlimited calls to mobile and landlines, txt, video calls, voice mail and 3gb of data (3gb pretty much unlimited for me). A top phone, on an unlimited call plan for $20 a week seems like fair value to me and no hidden bills at the end of the month.

    My new phone arrives tomorrow. Samsung Galaxy S, not an iPhone4, in fact Android=Anti-iPhone I think. So yep, Im really off topic in the off-topic area again. Ill start a new thread when it arrives with thoughts.

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    Galaxy S gets really good reviews - youll love it and probably forever be anti iphone.
    In essence its a PC - MAC war.

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    Maybe a *nix - MAC war?
    "open source" vs "we own you"

    8-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 614E4459200 link=1280495110/47#47 date=1281360854
    "we own you"
    I preffer that Apple makes the phone and the software and restricts you because it means that if anything were to go wrong or even you needed support for anything you can always go back to Apple - and also you can expect that everything should run smoothly (obviously it doesnt always.. technology is technology after all, its developing constantly).

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    Re: iPhone 4 snobs?

    After owning Nokias most of my life I have a Blackberry Bold - for the last 2 years. Good phone but clunky. I have just bought my cheese a HTC Legend and its a great phone and very solid. A week or so ago I ordered a 32g iphone 4. I think most of the reasons why in the past I avoided them have been resolved and I have, subject to those issues, always been keen to try doing to the dark side.

    I will let you know what I think when I get it.

    Cheers



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