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    Quote Originally Posted by 537C7577605F737C7375777F777C66120 link=1281426344/49#49 date=1293530667
    Want to read and edit doc etc on the move and read PDfd with the ability to get mail and do some minor web work...

    Not into Hi Res games or Videos... Work Phone
    HD or Hi Res is good for you as it produces crystal clear view of - web, email, docks

    I know from some of your posts that you dont like the Ibrick because its hard to see info on the screen

    The HTC Desire HD is brilliant for less eye strain while web browsing

    Get one in your hands and trial it

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    So when is CS going Mobile friendly ??
    Its not too bad really on the mobile (I travel on the train a bit, so good time to read up!) but could be made better.

    Seeing as Andy now uses Android himself.... ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67717D72756379100 link=1281426344/51#51 date=1296013603
    So when is CS going Mobile friendly ??
    Its not too bad really on the mobile (I travel on the train a bit, so good time to read up!) but could be made better.

    Seeing as Andy now uses Android himself.... *;)
    It would be nice.

    On my BlackBerry I change to "Column View" to make it a bit easier to read without scrolling left/right all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4355595651475D340 link=1281426344/51#51 date=1296013603
    So when is CS going Mobile friendly ??
    Its not too bad really on the mobile (I travel on the train a bit, so good time to read up!) but could be made better.

    Seeing as Andy now uses Android himself.... *;)
    I wonder if the forum software is compatible with http://www.tapatalk.com/ there is a free version that allows you to read the forum and a paid version which lets you post messages

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    Apologies for reviving/hijacking an old thread, but it seems the most appropriate rather than starting a new one.

    Hoping for a few opinions on the following matter:

    Son bought a ZTE V9 MyTab, with the sole intention of using it as a wireless device at Uni. The problem is that the online learning program he needs to use most "Mastering Physics" requires Adobe Flash Player to run, which the MyTab doesnt have. It currently has Android 2.1 on it, which does not support Flash.

    Is this grounds for return as not fit for purpose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 242821212222182A322A470 link=1281426344/54#54 date=1300751666
    Apologies for reviving/hijacking an old thread, but it seems the most appropriate rather than starting a new one.

    Hoping for a few opinions on the following matter:

    Son bought a ZTE V9 MyTab, with the sole intention of using it as a wireless device at Uni. The problem is that the online learning program he needs to use most "Mastering Physics" requires Adobe Flash Player to run, which the MyTab doesnt have. It currently has Android 2.1 on it, which does not support Flash.

    Is this grounds for return as not fit for purpose?
    Ya could try...

    But was the need for "Adobe Flash" clearly communicated at the outset and where is teh evidence that the supplier advised you that Flash on that phone, was supported.

    I think you will find that most are aware that there are issues with Adobe flash on any number of devices and even those that support Flash may not be 100%.


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    Flash wasnt mentioned at the time of purchase and is no information regarding it on any advertising or packaging.

    Son wasnt aware that he needed flash, it is installed on his laptop so the program accesses it without any fuss.

    So I suppose it is lack of technical knowledge on sons part, but it was made clear when buying, that it would be required for university level engineering maths, so the sales person probably didnt have an understanding of what those types of programs need to run either. If he had been asked* "do you need flash?" he would have come home and done some more research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 676B626261615B697169040 link=1281426344/56#56 date=1300753542
    Flash wasnt mentioned at the time of purchase and is no information regarding it on any advertising or packaging.

    Son wasnt aware that he needed flash, it is installed on his laptop so the program accesses it without any fuss.

    So I suppose it is lack of technical knowledge on sons part, but it was made clear when buying, that it would be required for university level engineering maths, so the sales person probably didnt have an understanding of what those types of programs need to run either. If he had been asked* "do you need flash?" he would have come home and done some more research.
    Assumptions and more assumptions.* As to the highlighted bit if your son had asked can it run flash? He would have been advised or they would have looked up the info ASAP.* Even if it did run flash, it may not have been the right version.* One needs to be exact and not ball park.

    One can also not expect the sales person to know and understand every possibly use that is out there !

    As to running on the laptop, again assumptions as there are 101 operating systems and many issues with Flash.

    The UNI should and usually do provide some info as to what is required to run their apps.... For all you know there may be a need for* .net of a specific version and again your back to square 1.

    Keep your eye on the WEB as Flash is available for Android but again what version of FLASH and What version of Android and What version does the UNI require ?

    Another phone that runes Flash may still not work* ::) ::)

    Contact teh UNI and see what they recommend but be aware they will still not take responsibility ;)

    Let us know how you go.



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    Yeah, have spent several hours searching* & trying various recommendations :(

    Will get him to ask at Uni, but I think we will try to get a refund and go for plan "B" - a netbook, at least we know that we can get software for them.

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    I doubt youd get a refund because the salesperson is not obliged to know what university level engineering maths entitles.

    However, the Froyo update which will offer Flash capabilities for the Tab is to be rolling out soon, possibly even fairly immediately.

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    After even more internet research I managed to find what firmware/hardware flash 10.2 requires and also what the Mytab has, and unfortunately the Mytab doesnt meet the minimum CPU requirements, so it wont work, even with the 2.2 upgrade (releasing tomorrow, or so Ive heard) it will however support 2.1 which will be great for most users.

    My friendly "techsperts" were very understanding and helpful and did process the refund, also helps that we will most likely go there for the netbook.

    Now for more research to make sure what we buy will do what is required, and hopefully not be too hard on the pocket ;D

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    Oops, my bad, I misread the Tab to be the Galaxy Tab.

    :) Glad you got your refund though!

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    Ive placed a pre-order for the Galaxy S II from the UK. Cant wait! Dual core processor, 1 GB RAM, Super AMOLED Plus screen.....SWEEETTTT

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7250564D4A4056250 link=1281426344/62#62 date=1300870063
    Ive placed a pre-order for the Galaxy S II from the UK.

    Ill be interested to hear if the galaxy II is worth it. Im on the original galaxy and, apart from slight lag now and again, very happy. Price of the original galaxy was excellent (free and after rebates $49 plan only costs $40.79).

    Mine is still on 2.1, but shortly to get the 2.2 U/G so I can do flash. I just need to set aside half a Sunday to do it as it is rooted and running a lagfix that all needs to go before the U/G. Obviously a full backup is in there too just in case. Time to hit whirlpool again methinks.

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    Yeah, thats the catch. My pre-order for the 32 GB unit cost just a touch over $1000

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    ARGH I have no idea where to start, I dont need to get with the program so to speak but I need a new phone. Ive started my research and found that I like the HTC Evo but it isnt available in Australia.

    The most important things to me are call clarity and photos/video :D Yes I do have a Lumix and a Nikon but I dont carry them around all the time.

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    @shapeshifter - had a look at the Sony Xperia Arc?
    8mp camera which is apparently very good and 720p video at 30fps. Uses active noise canceling (maybe 2 microphones?). Running non-dual core , but on 2.3.3 Gingerbread OS.
    Due out here from carriers soon - so you dont need to do a personal import - unless you want to.

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    My daughter just won a Google Nexus (?).

    Any good?

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    Hi gz, yes I have, in terms of the phone, reports are that its not as good as the N8 but is a lot better than majority.

    What I hate about the N8 though is that the loudspeaker is on the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4E726F747E7F687D757E1A0 link=1281426344/67#67 date=1301549217
    My daughter just won a Google Nexus (?).
    Ooh how? Theyre nice phones - made by Samsung, but because theyre Google branded - ultimately always the first to get Android updates. Screen isnt great, but thats only in comparison to the *super* screens that are out there these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by 69727B6A7F6972737C6E7F681A0 link=1281426344/65#65 date=1301536233
    ARGH I have no idea where to start, I dont need to get with the program so to speak but I need a new phone.* Ive started my research and found that I like the HTC Evo but it isnt available in Australia.
    HTC Desire HD? Pretty swish phone.

    I love my Galaxy S, but I did root + lagfix. Screen quality and colours are brilliant though.

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    tashie I did actually start there, the HTC I mean. I think Ive been looking too much and am a little confused :D

    I dont have to have the best of the best, but I also dont want to be stuck with something crappy, I dont tend to keep up to date with phones so what I get now has to last for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 273A72703434400 link=1281426344/66#66 date=1301543603
    @shapeshifter - had a look at the Sony Xperia Arc?
    8mp camera which is apparently very good and 720p video at 30fps.
    If the camera is anything like the camera on the Xperia x10 then dont bother. Outside it will take a great pic but anything indoors requires a lot of light to come out right. Its way more hassle that a camera on any other phone Ive used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 726960716472696867756473010 link=1281426344/70#70 date=1301551016
    I dont have to have the best of the best, but I also dont want to be stuck with something crappy, I dont tend to keep up to date with phones so what I get now has to last for a while.
    Make sure you go to the store and have a play with the interface.

    Specs could be good, but there could be one annoying thing with the interface that you might *hate*

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    i cant stand apple for anything. they monopolise too much and all their stuff can only be used on their gear. i dont like their interfaces either. iphone is too fadish ppl just want it coz every1 else has it. android OS have google behind them and can be used across a range of devices. There are also heaps of developers contributing stacks of their own time into getting more performance out of the ROMS and Kernals. That said Samsung Nexus S is the benchmark imo and flys! Great choice Andy. I use HTC Desire atm with gingerbread 2.3 ROM overclocked to 1152MHz and underclocked to 128MHz to save battery when not in use.
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    I have no idea what youre talking about toneeas I own a phone that rings, I answer, and the other person is able to hear me.

    So, just a question. Did these android phones come about as an alternative to apple gear? If so, perhaps your dislike for the company may not be all that fair.

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    I had a laugh tonee, Id be chucked out if I bought anything apple into this household, my OH hates apple almost as much as he hates windows :D

    Ive was almost convinced that the HTC Desire was the way to go but I cant get it on Optus.

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    giggled like a schoolgirl Dennis that is all I want as well, but its not possible to get one that just does that these days!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4A5158495C4A51505F4D5C4B390 link=1281426344/76#76 date=1301555147
    giggled like a schoolgirl Dennis that is all I want as well, but its not possible to get one that just does that these days!!!
    Yeah, well, Ive been using a mobile phone since they came with battery packs the size of a suitcase, and have just upgraded to this neat hands-free option.




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    giggled like a schoolgirl

    On another note I might wait for the Galaxy S II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 574C4D4646230 link=1281426344/73#73 date=1301554104
    i cant stand apple for anything. they monopolise too much and all their stuff can only be used on their gear. i dont like their interfaces either. iphone is too fadish ppl just want it coz every1 else has it. android OS have google behind them and can be used across a range of devices.
    Hear, hear! :)

    To be fair, I think the first iPhone was pretty revolutionary, but the competition now is so tough that some of the newer phones kick Apples butt.

    I personally *hate* how Apply always control stock, yet pretend they cant keep up with demand. And their marketing - gah! FaceTime is just a fancy way of saying videocalling.

    Hurrah for open source and Android.

    shapeshifter - I must say I love the super AMOLED screen on the Galaxy S

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    If Im wanting the best photos I can take Id be taking my Nikon with me but for just instant awww look at that photos I dont have a problem with the 8MB cameras as long as I am getting my 8MB worth :)

    Oh hang on my Nikon is only 8MG anyway ::) My Lumix is 12MG.

    I also like that the Samsung you can see in sunlight and from all directions, the others Ive been looking at you cant see in sunlight or from angles.

    Ok Im almost convinced I had a laugh now just have to wait wait wait for May/June.

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    I waited fricking MONTHS before the Galaxy S hit Vodafone. Be prepared for them to do some exclusive to X carrier deal, so you might end up waiting longer than you bargained for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 657062797874110 link=1281426344/81#81 date=1301571226
    I waited fricking MONTHS before the Galaxy S hit Vodafone. Be prepared for them to do some exclusive to X carrier deal, so you might end up waiting longer than you bargained for.
    Buy unlocked and then just put ya SIM in...

    By the time ya wait and every thing else moves forward, the next model is released and ya back to the starting line again* :D

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    Upgraded my galaxy S at the weekend to froyo 2.2 and ever since then Ive been having problems browsing.
    Im now on 2.2.1 and it isnt any better.
    Basically, the text entry box no longer appears when I am typing in web forums, so I cant see what I am typing and I cant highlight and cut text.
    Anyone else seen this? It is probably a setting somewhere, but I cant find anything obvious and it makes browsing a real pain (one reason Ive been a bit quiet this week).

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    I had Android 2.2.1 on a LG Optimus P500, but the phone failed twice and they (a big yellow telco with small cute animals) had to give my money back. The ACCC did have to have a chat with this particular telco before they decided to give my money back, but thats another story.

    When the phone worked it was good, and Android 2.2.1 seemed OK, I* believe the phones failure was hardware related so I dont have any gripe with 2.2.1.

    I now have a Sony Ericsson X10, which is a great phone for less than $430, 4" screen, good 8Mp camera with HD (720p) video.

    Sadly Sony have only just released 2.1 for this phone with no plans to go higher (they do seem to be sugesting that if you want a higher version of android you should Root the phone and install a custom ROM :o).

    Sonys version of 2.1 includes some 2.2 features, and overall there is not much that 2.2 had that the X10 cant do, the only problem is not being able to run apps from SD card, thats not a problem for me but could be for some.
    Quote Originally Posted by 373F31393B21213D3139520 link=1281426344/83#83 date=1301604512
    Basically, the text entry box no longer appears when I am typing in web forums, so I cant see what I am typing and I cant highlight and cut text.
    I didnt have this problem in 2.2.1, are you using Swype, if not give it a go, I think it may help (watch the tutorial on Swype) I think its the best thing since sliced bread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6F7A6873727E1B0 link=1281426344/69#69 date=1301550597
    Ooh how? Theyre nice phones - made by Samsung, but because theyre Google branded - ultimately always the first to get Android updates.
    She works for Vodafone in Marketing.
    They had a competition (something to do with gingerbread) and she won.

    My son recently got the HTC.
    Hes a geek, did a lot of research and thats the one chose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 293C2E3534385D0 link=1281426344/79#79 date=1301557671
    To be fair, I think the first iPhone was pretty revolutionary
    Although others, who have been using large screen touch based smart-phones with multi-tasking since 2003 (eg O2 XDA), see the iPhone as more an evolutionary consumerisation of the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 456266695845626675070 link=1281426344/84#84 date=1301637461
    I now have a Sony Ericsson X10, which is a great phone for less than $430, 4" screen, good 8Mp camera with HD (720p) video.

    Sadly Sony have only just released 2.1 for this phone with no plans to go higher (they do seem to be sugesting that if you want a higher version of android you should Root the phone and install a custom ROM ).
    Sony have just announced that they changed their minds and WILL be going to 2.3! There are now many happy X10 users eagerly awaiting the new release, assuming their telco decides to approve it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 456266695845626675070 link=1281426344/84#84 date=1301637461
    I didnt have this problem in 2.2.1, are you using Swype, if not give it a go, I think it may help (watch the tutorial on Swype) I think its the best thing since sliced bread.
    Always used Swype and loved it until the time came when I could no longer highlight text and delete the annoying non-words that made their way into my dictionary! Being able to type one handed without looking at the phone is sooo useful at times.

    I have since solved the problem thanks to the galaxy s users guide on Samsungs web site. After telling it to select text, then press and drag/swipe the portion of text to be highlighted, once correct text is highlighted to my satisfaction, then press and hold again and choose cut. I hadnt thought to drag across the text I wanted just assumed that having chosen a start point I could then simply select the end point like I always did in the past.
    Course I still miss the text entry box that filled the whole screen and was easier to read, but can live without it as the other features of 2.2 make life easier: lag free, working GPS, built in Navigon navigation, flash support, screen capture,...

    Just started roasting my own ROMs at the romkitchen. Seemed like a logical thing to do since I roast my own coffee already ;D




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    Quote Originally Posted by 3B333D35372D2D313D355E0 link=1281426344/87#87 date=1301741283
    Sony have just announced that they changed their minds and WILL be going to 2.3! There are now many happy X10 users eagerly awaiting the new release, assuming their telco decides to approve it.
    I knew Sony would take notice of that email I sent them ;D ;D :D
    Quote Originally Posted by 3B333D35372D2D313D355E0 link=1281426344/87#87 date=1301741283
    Just started roasting my own ROMs at the romkitchen. Seemed like a logical thing to do since I roast my own coffee already
    Mmmm, home cooked ROM, are there RomSnobs yet. Are you just doing modifications on vanilla android or is it more serious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 082F2B2415082F2B384A0 link=1281426344/88#88 date=1301891649
    I knew Sony would take notice of that email I sent them ;D ;D :D
    Quote Originally Posted by 3B333D35372D2D313D355E0 link=1281426344/87#87 date=1301741283
    Just started roasting my own ROMs at the romkitchen. Seemed like a logical thing to do since I roast my own coffee already*
    Mmmm, home cooked ROM, are there RomSnobs yet. Are you just doing modifications on vanilla android or is it more serious?
    Im not really doing anything much. The rom kitchen is more like a restaurant where you choose a la carte items. Its over 20 years since I wrote any firmware myself.
    It is convenient though to design your own blend of base rom, kernel, modem, launcher etc. One thing that has surprised me is how big* a difference the modem choice can make to battery life.

    If you want stability though, wait for official manufacturer releases

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    Yippee!
    After much browsing of the web, I saw a link to some android tips on an email newsletter today, not much use in themselves as they rely on the Nexus one trackball. But by then trying a different google search I came across a Samsung tips page that tells me I can bring up a cursor keyboard on my swype keypad.
    Press the swype key (the one with the i and a squiggle) and swipe to the SYM key next to it.
    Voila, a whole new keypad with all the buttons needed to select and move around text.

    That and the Dolphin HD browser with tabbed browsing and gesture input makes me a very happy chappy.
    Now I just draw an R on the screen in my browser and I see all the recent coffeesnobs posts. 8-)

    I also have a whole load more tips and user guide pages to read, no doubt Ill learn more about what Ive been missing over the last 6 months.
    Course the phone currently crashes or hangs once a day, but thats life with prerelease s/w.


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    Damn I saw tonight that the UK release for the new Samsung has been put back to May from mid March. Itll take ages to get here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5C7B7F70415C7B7F6C1E0 link=1281426344/88#88 date=1301891649
    Mmmm, home cooked ROM, are there RomSnobs yet. Are you just doing modifications on vanilla android or is it more serious?
    Im not quite at that stage, though not sure Ill invest the time for home-cooked ROMs. Much more time-efficient to just jump around the ROMs that others have baked. CyanogenMod 7 is working quite nicely for me (and probably the one Ive been most satisfied with actually - very nice to use) :)

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    Great deal on the Galaxy S at the moment - $0 on the $29 plan with Vodafone.

    If youre after an Android smartphone, this deal would be hard to beat.

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    Re: Android Phones

    Quote Originally Posted by 2237253E3F33560 link=1281426344/93#93 date=1302684993
    Great deal on the Galaxy S at the moment - $0 on the $29 plan with Vodafone.

    If youre after an Android smartphone, this deal would be hard to beat.
    Great Deal - I think it needs more data though.
    200Mb is pretty paltry - especially if you are wanting to actually use the power of the phone/Android.
    Data add-on packs arent too much though.
    And you do all your downloading on wifi.

    Currently Im quite happy on my Milestone 1 - running Cyanogenmod 7 (Gingerbread 2.3.3), overclocked to 1GHz plus some memory tweaks.
    Screen shots here:
    https://picasaweb.google.com/109661096667352682372/Screenshots?authkey=Gv1sRgCIjvr73osMaDfQ&feat=dire ctlink

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    Re: Android Phones

    Id like to throw in a vote for Tapatalk. I do most of my social stuff on the iPad or phone and CS is a little tough on smaller screens. Not terrible, but not great. Tapatalk works awesomely well.

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    Thank you for adding Coffeesnobs to the Tapatalk app. I am very impressed and now can always be informed no matter where I am.

    Two thumbs up!!!

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    Android Phones

    +1 for Tapatalk integration, I like the facebook posts on new topics too.



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