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    PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

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    Gday all, Im looking at the following Topfield TRF 7160 and Beyonwiz DP Lite PVRs. They are both about $400 and have very similar specs and do everything I want. Reviews say both are good units. I couldnt find any reviews comparing the two though. So I am mainly interested in the menu system and supplied remotes and how easy they are to use. Any opinions, personal or otherwise?

    Thanks, Andrew* :)

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    You may want to try the link... maybe helpful

    http://www.dtvforum.info/

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Gday Andrew....

    Weve had a Beyonwiz "DP - P2" for just going on 2 years and I love it. Never missed a beat in all that time and is so flexible in use that I have yet to discover something that I cant do with it. Output quality is superb, goes without saying really... 8-)

    I imagine their "Lite" versions are as equally well engineered and manufactured and will fully live up to their feature list and specification.... :)

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Quote Originally Posted by 5E5C48010104310 link=1303205363/0#0 date=1303205363
    Any opinions, personal or otherwise?
    Buy a Tivo!

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Another vote for the Tivo here. Very easy to use and great set and forget features like seasons pass where you record a show once and it then continues to record each and every episode.

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    I have a homecast which I have generally been happy with. When I was looking to buy, the beyonwiz was the best option at the time if price hadnt been a consideration. IceTV integration was a plus, also the ongoing development and support from beyonwiz seem pretty good. Tivo just didnt do it for me due to the hookup with seven network.

    Bear in mind tivo australia may not be around much longer.

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    I went the media center route with Ice TV in 2005 and have upgraded win7 and a few TB of storage. I run 2 x TV cards and have been glitch free.

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Quote Originally Posted by 685D5057637F535A5A59593C0 link=1303205363/6#6 date=1303261644
    I went the media center route with Ice TV in 2005 and have upgraded win7 and a few TB of storage. I run 2 x TV cards and have been glitch free.
    Another option along these lines would be mythbuntu, which could be installed on a laptop along with roast monitor s/w so you can watch your programmes while roasting.

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    And the trouble with Tivo is you have to buy a $100 extra program if you want to be able to download a recorded program from TIVO to your computer or save it to a DVD.
    Other than that they do the job well.

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Ive had the Supernet SD unit from 2005 on ebay, followed by the Panworld HD 250Gb unit from 2008 also from ebay.* The first units still going strong (gave it to a family member), but the Panworld has given plenty of trouble with me having to replace a random capacitor on 3 separate occasions.* Each time the picture would pixelate and spit as if the signal was poor, and the clock would stop keeping time when on stand-by along with the digits being dull.* The faulty capacitors were on the powerboard, starving the unit of much needed voltage.* Identifying the culprits was easy with the bulging tops being the dead give away.* My mums Wintal had the same problem which only happened once since 2004.* All these generic type of boxes have been inflicted with these issues - some worst than others.* Apparently caused by the bad capacitor plague* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

    But my Panworld has finally had enough with the hard drive doing what it wants - sometime it will record, sometimes it wont.* When on stand-by the hard drive will continue to run.* This time theres no obvious faulty capacitors - so Ill just have to replace the lot and go from there.* Anyway, Im looking at buying a media player; preferably one with a built in HD tuner.* Theres so many choices going around.

    But from what Ive read, I suspect the Beyondwiz brand is the tried and trusted brand.

    Try this site - it would be a good start http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/126


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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    We have a TIVO and it is great. Really fast and easy to use. My olds have a sony HD twin tuner recorder and in comparison the sony is rubbish and hard to use. TIVO updates program info from the net not over the broadcast like most settops so that means it is always up to date. Caspa which is their movie service is RUBBISH. The concept is good but it is slow to browse and there arent many movies to choose from. After a few months and having watched the movies you wanted, their arent enough new movies on there that you can even spend your $25 a month subscription if you chose that package.

    Downloading shows off the unit you cant blame TIVO for. Im guessing there are regulations in australia about recording and storing tv and throwing shows on DVD is probably not allowed. Pretty sure back in the day of VHS it was technically illegal to keep copies of shows/movies.

    Catchoftheday was selling the beyonwiz yesterday for $299 but too late.

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Another option is Sony PlayTV. If you have a PS3 in your house this is a single tuner unit as far as I know that plugs into your ps3 and only costs $100. PS3s only have small hard drives but the easiest option is to backup all saved game data etc to sonys online thing and replace the harddrive. Pretty much any laptop harddrive fits into the PS3 so for around $200 you could have a HDTV recorder with 1TB.

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Quote Originally Posted by 556A6C6B7671405D7066737A1F0 link=1303205363/10#10 date=1303285303
    Catchoftheday was selling the beyonwiz yesterday for $299 but too late.
    I manage to have "caught" one of these, will see how it goes. Thanks for the info.

    Andrew.* :)


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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Quote Originally Posted by 497670776A6D5C416C7A6F66030 link=1303205363/10#10 date=1303285303
    Pretty sure back in the day of VHS it was technically illegal to keep copies of shows/movies.
    Still is. Its safe to say that youd never get prosecuted for it though. When everyone in the country breaks the law...the law has failed.

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    That law was finally nipped in the bud some time last year in the name of common sense. Youre free to record as you wish providing you dont stretch the boundaries and broadcast your recordings to the public, online, whatever.

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Have a look at this product - I think it sounds promising...

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    I have the Beyonwiz DP-P2 and its never missed a beat and with the latest firmware it plays most files off of network well.

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Quote Originally Posted by 7A62397C6B780A0 link=1303205363/16#16 date=1306911338
    I have the Beyonwiz DP-P2 and its never missed a beat and with the latest firmware it plays most files off of network well.
    And...

    Can use SATA HDDs up to 2TB....

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    does the Beowiz have the HDTV tuner inside it?

    eg are they just like a VCR just a whole lot smarter?

    I am a tecno newbie to PVR and just want one box that can record TV, play stuff i have on HDrives etc
    in a way that my 4 year old can figure out how to use it soon....

    i dont need heaps of menus and long lists of features... just it works well and is simple to use so every one in the house can use it

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    You could always get a cheapie pvr from jb hifi, I saw one there at the w/end with a 1TB drive, think it was under $300. Most of them are pretty easy to program. Personally, Id go for the beyonwiz, even though it aint the cheapest (and I am notoriously frugal). well supported, easy to use, ongoing development, iceTV integration and likely that the company will still be around for the next few years.

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    They (Beyonwiz) also have a reasonable range of models from basic, up to all the bells and whistles units. Probably best to head to their website to check out the models on offer and see if one of them fits... :)

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Total noob question....

    Im a slave to the Foxtel IQ box so know absolutely nothing about the real PVR market but my father-in-law wants a PVR that he can not only record digital channels (and the HD digital channels) but also burn them to disc.

    Apparently the Panasonic PVR has those capabilities, but does anyone know if any other brands do?

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Re: the Beyonwiz lineup...

    Dont think any of them have a DVD Burner built in but they can be networked to a home LAN and they can dump files to an SD card, a USB Drive or an External HDD to allow conversion of the files into DVD format on a PC and then burnt in the usual way.

    Thats what Ive been doing and it works quite well, as you then have full control over the end result using one of many Video Authoring packages.... 8-)

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    The older style DVD-Recorders did that but I am not sure they are still on the market.
    Most PVR-s now use internal HDDs and flash drives for "moving" files, or copying straight to your network.

    Regarding the HDTV tuners, the DP-P2 has 2 HDTV tuners so you can record one show whilst watching another or watching a pre-recorded show (just like foxtel IQ).

    One thing to look out for (I am not to sure about it) is Freeview. I think it limits some abilities to skip ads? (needs clarification).
    Edit: You can still fast forward ads just cannot auto skip ads, also it adds DRM to your files.

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Freeview is actually a bad idea for anybody who wants to do things their way. DRM stops you from doing all sorts of file manipulation.... >:(

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    Re: PVRs, Topfield or Beyonwiz?

    Steer well clear of freeview certified devices. They dont do anything better, just have drm and stop you skipping ads.
    I have the dp-p2. Very good, better than the top field IMHO. Menu and features are better. The dp light is virtually the same, just sans the little display and some other minor features like video in.



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