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    Tosser or Bully

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Once a week I get a dose from a (typically) new member who has obviously never been wrong and then proceed to act like they are the only person in the world with often selfish or unrealistic wishes. Sometimes it's people who think they have a right to receive unlimited one on one free roasting or engineering consultation with me because they bought beans or equipment, sometimes it's someone who dislikes our few simple rules on the forum.

    I've tried all sorts of methods over the years and ignoring them is often the best but sometimes I need to speak with them... and then it's often not pretty.

    Here is today's interaction from Leo (not his real name) and myself (who was roasting all the orders).

    Ignoring the fact that me posting the email in this thread could be viewed as bully-esk please also vote in the poll and if you feel so inclined you can post a reply to Leo's last email which I've not answered.
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    On 07/09/2013, at 3:27 PM, "Andy Freeman" wrote:

    We have had a couple of complaints about your username: CremaMyPants

    Please let me know what you want it changed to and I’ll do so.

    Andy.



    From: Leo
    Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2013 1:42 PM
    To: Andy Freeman
    Subject: Re: CoffeeSnobs


    Hello Andy,

    I'm assuming you are a moderator (or similar) on the coffeesnobs forum...? Can you please introduce yourself?

    May I ask what is the nature of these complaints...?

    Leo



    On 08/09/2013, at 1:44 PM, "Andy Freeman" wrote:

    Owner.

    Childish name.

    I didn’t hear back from you so username changed to pants.


    Andy.


    From: Leo
    Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2013 3:08 PM
    To: Andy Freeman
    Subject: Re: CoffeeSnobs


    Hi again Andy,

    Thankyou for identifying yourself. Sorry, I was completely unaware that when joining your forum that I was expected to respond to any email correspondence within a certain time frame - in this case under 24 hours.

    I was also unaware when creating my username that some members on the forum may have their minds in the gutter. It seems it was easier for these people to jump to conclusions, seemingly about male ejaculate in this specific instance, instead of considering for a moment that I may have chosen that specific username because it described an innocent, non-sexual AND non-childish experience I once had at a CoffeeShop in the Seattle involving a close group of friends and a parrot.

    Andy I'm afraid you have also deeply offended me too, and I'm not referring to how you prematurely changed my username, or how you chose not to consider my side of things. You see one meaning of the word "pants" comes from British slang which means no good, nonsense, or rubbish. Because the word "pants" by itself means absolutely nothing at all to me and most likely most people, I'm concerned that you are having a go at me in British slang.

    Please consider what I have written above, and in the interest of putting this behind us and finding a compromise I ask that you rename my username to "user1". I've chosen this specific naming convention to allow for these uptight judgemental forum members small minds, and I'm sincerely hoping it doesn't offend anyone. If the above username is taken please increment the number suffix at the end of the word user until there is an available username, eg. user1, user2, user3 and so on.

    PS: you might like to skip user69 if it is next on the list. Just imagine the outrage...

    Leo


    On 08/09/2013, at 3:43 PM, "Andy Freeman" wrote:


    Sorry that you are deeply offended, I didn’t know that someone with a South Park username would be so sensitive.

    Account removed.

    Problem solved.


    From: Leo
    Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2013 4:28 PM
    To: Andy Freeman
    Subject: Re: CoffeeSnobs


    Hello again Andy,

    Apology accepted. Although, by your response I think you completely missed the point I was making, which is about CONTEXT.

    Thanks for cancelling my account because that was my next request after I wasted a little more of your time, as you have done with mine over this rubbish.

    As you might be able to tell I don't like bullies, which is why I've just added your domain to my proxy anonymiser so if I want to access anything on your website (including sponsors) I'll take it whenever I want, with no account or contribution to your website whatsoever. If I need an account in future I'll dial up a new email address and create one. Watch out for user69...

    Lastly I'd like you leave you with this little gem. Urban dictionary suggests that the word coffee is used to describe sex, and this is from 2004! Oh deary me Andy, do you have something on your mind?... I've included a link for you - Urban Dictionary: coffee (page down a little).

    Lighten up a little dude, and get a life - l ol...

    Yours sincerely,
    CremaMyPants.



    On 08/09/2013, at 5:00 PM, "Andy Freeman" wrote:

    Lighten up?
    That’s pretty rich from the guy that got his knickers in a knot by something as simple as request to change his user name.

    While in the urban dictionary you might want to look-up
    Urban Dictionary: tosser
    Urban Dictionary: wanker

    Both of those terms came to mind when you sent your diatribe when all that was really needed was:

    Hey Andy,
    Sorry if I offended someone, it wasn’t intentional and was referring to a something that happened years ago in Seattle.
    Can you change my username to: User1
    Cheers,
    Leo.

    From: Leo
    Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2013 6:22 PM
    To: Andy Freeman
    Subject: Re: CoffeeSnobs
    Cremamypants...? For you to encourage forum members (if indeed its them and not you) to say they're offended by that username is just a bloody joke. Every day in Australia we're becoming more and more censored by babies (bullies?) like you. For the 2 uptight farts who may of complained there's maybe 20 who thought it was funny, even though I didn't mean it that way. Did you ever think about that? No, you probably just let the whingers run your website.

    Do these same whingers have any issues (morally or ethically) with you owning a forum geared around peddling a drug and equipment for that drug to many members, some of which who would have chronic addictions...? Do they find it offensive...? Dickheads, l ol...

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    Wow.

    Sounds like Sgt Leo.

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    Since Leo obviously knew that his first choice name could be misconstrued, and knew how it was misconstrued, and was likely to be misconstrued as it referred to a private piece of history, I voted for him being a tosser.

    Andy, your first email was most polite and to the point. His responses were challenging from the beginning.

    Greg

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    Not sure my initial post was overly polite, it was certainly succinct as I'm attempting (seemingly in vain) to deal with the problem people with minimal impact on my life. I get to the end of some days and have spent 4,5,6 hours dealing with this sort or rubbish.

    Sgt Leo? I was leaning more towards Paul Hogan. ;-)

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    I guess you need to use some discretion Andy. With people like that averaging once or so a week I wonder how you do that. I don't think my reply to people like that would be so nice. I would be saying tosser x 10.

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    All I can say Andy mate...

    Thank God I don't have to deal with (insert your favoured euphemism) like this.

    Support you 100% mate,
    Mal.

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    Tosser

    When you open a PM it shows who it is from which includes photo and whatever name is above the photo, yours clearly states 'CoffeeSnobs Owner' which answered his question before he asked it, maybe you should have changed it to 'tosser' now that would have clearly been mind in the gutter, matched his mind in the gutter which he used to get his original name and also lets everyone else know that yes he is a tosser in every sense of the word.

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    I have no idea what "Leo" and his friends were doing with the parrot and I probably don't want to know.
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    Obviously Leo knew what his username would imply and thought it would be funny. Instead of simply complying with a polite request he decided to get all uppity. Wrong choice, pal!

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    Voted bully for a laugh, its still a landslide victory though

    Based on his first email you could have responded again before changing his name, but it would have been a waste of time as it turns he was just a tool so what do I know

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    110% support for you, Andy.

    The person knew all about his innuendo/double entendre.
    To quote from Wikipedia:

    "The term sexual innuendo has acquired a specific meaning, namely that of a "risque" double entendre by playing on a possibly sexual interpretation of an otherwise innocent uttering."

    And:

    "A double entendre is a figure of speech in which a spoken phrase is devised to be understood in either of two ways. Typically one of the interpretations is rather obvious whereas the other is more subtle. The more subtle of the interpretations is typically sexually suggestive. It may also convey a message that would be socially awkward, or even offensive, to state directly. (The Oxford English Dictionary describes a double entendre as being used to "convey an indelicate meaning".)"

    The person is obviously articulate so there's no way they can plead innocence, I just don't buy it.

    I think that, for the most part, most of the regular users of Andy's forum, realise that it is a 'community service',
    provided by Andy, at his expense of time and with $help from sponsors, as an adjunct to his online coffee retailing business. Somewhere for his customers and other interested people, to share their stuff, ask questions and hang out in the ether.

    I certainly respect Andy's right to run the site as he sees fit and to close the account of anyone he chooses.
    Sometimes my mind boggles at his patience, tolerance and largesse.

    I don't think that I could do it :-D

    p.s. I never liked the name in question and thought it inappropriate, despite my social/ political point of view.
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    Tosser and time waster. Plus he makes it quite obvious he is well up on slang and euphemisms so he had to know the obvious interpretation - plus he's from Qld so he'd be at least familiar in passing with the Aussie vernacular.

    Probably thought it was a clever name, didn't bother to look to see who was PM'ing him even though who you are was his FIRST issue, and, I'm guessing his story about coffee, Seattle and a parrot is just made up to cover up his juvenile attempt at humour.

    Pity though - his posts seemed to come from an otherwise reasonable sort.

    Or maybe trolls are getting smarter and realise they have to pretend to contribute before they start trouble?

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    I had a laugh! Thanks for sharing that amusing little interchange, Andy.
    Easy for me to say as I don't have to deal with those people on a daily basis.
    Anybody who posts on Forums needs to know when they were out of line and just suck it up.

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    With a name like "CremaMyPants", it's certainly a more offensive name compared to say "Second Crack", and surely it was designed to inflame and create controversy.
    In a popular website such as this, there's always bound to be the bad, good and different amongst the 20,000 odd members (and growing).

    Speaking from past experience when I had to lob a few enquiring questions towards Andy, his responses have been honest and helpful though with seemingly bluntness to his tone of reply. I have been somewhat taken aback.
    I learnt later that here is someone who runs and actively involves himself in a website, roast coffee, pack and ship, sift through tons of email, dealing with itineraries (trips and events, liason with industry people and enthusiasts) throughout the year as well as undertaking the role of a family man when he's not working 7 days a week.

    Over time you get to know that some people who join are just tyre kickers and stirrers who don't have a interest in coffee and they are not worth the time to deal with, hence the swift closing of their accounts so that the work of the day can be carried out.

    So, for those relatively new members out there who are starting out their coffee journey, don't take Andy's seemingly "blunt" responses to heart. It is simply a direct short straightforward answer designed to be to the point and hopefully be helpful.

    I am grateful over the time when I was green around the ears to the current situation where I can roast 2-3 kg a week of coffee beans as well as working in the coffee industry, partly learnt from reading the threads and posts in this website.

    Thanks Andy.
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    Reminds me of a typical comment posted to Andrew Bolt's blog - I follow @boltcomments for a laugh. Apparently Australia has a lot of angry, angry, low IQ oldies with too much time on their hands.

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    Andy, to be honest, your tone can come across as a bit gruff/blunt and I've found myself wondering who's pissed in your coffee on a number of occasions. That said, it's also not necessarily intentional and I've just put it down to your workload and tone being lost in the writing/reading.

    This isn't one of those instances IMO - mods/admins can't afford to engage at length with every blokewho wants to "discuss" moderation decisions and your original mail wasn't rude or blunt at all. Being offended doesn't afford anyone any additional rights and at the end of the day he chose to try and argue rather than simply sort out the problem at hand.

    I'm not sure I get this thread (since it was a bit of a foregone conclusion for it to turn into ragging on this random bloke) unless you're truly torn as to who was being the dick here, which would surprise me (pretty clear to me).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragunov21 View Post
    Andy, to be honest, your tone can come across as a bit gruff/blunt and I've found myself wondering who's pissed in your coffee on a number of occasions. That said, it's also not necessarily intentional and I've just put it down to your workload and tone being lost in the writing/reading.
    I have to agree with this.

    Being one of the "new members" that was involved in an at length discussion recently with you relating to our seemingly unrealistic requests, I would have to say that as a new member your tone is misunderstood. You are clearly very busy and I am sure that some of the requests/opinions that we put forward may get on your nerves. I can only assume that due to the service you're providing to the community by providing this forum affords you a the ability to get to know your customers quite well which gives you the ability to speak candidly with them.

    But its interesting getting to know the people in this forum. Overall I would say everyone is very helpfull and the service from the CS online store relating to product quality/turnaround time is amazing.

    This guy on the other hand, has at least provided some humor for the day

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    Perhaps Andy, you could...

    1. Add a sig line to your profile along the lines of, "Workload necessitates my responses being brief and to the point. If you feel that is so, please don't be offended. If you feel I am being intentionally rude, please ask.

    2. Appoint some Mods to take some of the load off you. As owner/Admin/Business person you do not have time to be personal with all the PM's and email - let some Mods do the PM's.

    3. When you get abreactions like this one, immediately buck-pass it to a Mod to take care of - you don't need to keep responding.

    4. Ask Mods to browse user lists or do the searches for indecency etc. I'm sure you weren't expecting the site to get this large and the whole idea of Mods is to take the load and spread it around. (the load, not the other thing )

    You will be happier and less under-the-pump, and thus more likely to enjoy your interactions when you can pick and choose.
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    I didn't see anything wrong with the name CremaMyPants as Pants is a commonly used word used in place of shit/arse when something goes wrong. So I read it as 'you call that crema?'. An Aussie might say Crema, my arse! when poured a lifeless, crema-less coffee.

    The response from Leo was over the top but I think whoever got offended by the name needs a little world education or is a little trigger happy. English/irish people (that I know and from my time living in both countries) use that word all the time. Either that or my mind doesn't spend much time in the gutter.
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    If it can be interpreted in two ways and one of them is inappropriate, you assume that people will take it the wrong way.

    The username was inappropriate and in many places would have incurred an immediate ban. The user concerned had the option to pull his head in and instead chose to stick his neck out despite the option to behave reasonably. He deserved to lose his head.

    +1 for the ban. I wouldn't have given him anywhere near as much rope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSmurto View Post
    I didn't see anything wrong with the name CremaMyPants as Pants is a commonly used word used in place of shit/arse when something goes wrong. So I read it as 'you call that crema?'. An Aussie might say Crema, my arse! when poured a lifeless, crema-less coffee.

    The response from Leo was over the top but I think whoever got offended by the name needs a little world education or is a little trigger happy. English/irish people (that I know and from my time living in both countries) use that word all the time. Either that or my mind doesn't spend much time in the gutter.
    As has been raised on several occasions over the years, this is a Family Forum with active members from both genders and ages ranging from pre-teens to near the ton. Why someone feels the need to advertise their lack of maturity and ignorance via the choice of such a dim-witted nickname really only goes to support why Andy questioned it in the first place.

    We don't really need this sort of "player" in our midst...

    Mal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod View Post
    I have no idea what "Leo" and his friends were doing with the parrot and I probably don't want to know.
    Good one mate...

    Mal.

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    Once in awhile we get pulled into these nonsensical, pointless conversations that goes nowhere and we could all do without them. Ignoring them is ideal. Some people just have too much time on their hands and think we all have that same amount of time to waste.

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    I had a laugh Leo. Bet that stings.
    Tosser - yep
    Bully -yep
    Account disabled - yep. Good.

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    Wow, I wonder what Leo would do if a stranger invited themselves into his house, walked in demanded dinner and the right to put their shoes on the couch? You were very mesured IMOH. Good for all of us him not being on these threads.

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    Clearly a tosser, and a sore loser to boot. Your first reply was right on the money and probably more polite than I would have written.

    Although new to CS, I have not seen anything except "to the point honesty" from you Andy. One of the reasons I joined CS, not CG.

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    this is a curly one actually
    you see I was also banned from a site because I liked my username and the mod called nannybegood decided she was offended by my name ,so rather than change it I chose to be banned, cant say why it was just that I really thought my username was quite funny and worth keeping although I didn't want to argue with a nanny-especially a good one ,but I have great respect for this site and all the work that goes into it so I would have changed it here, in fact I have a pretty ordinary one now
    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post
    2. Appoint some Mods to take some of the load off you. As owner/Admin/Business person you do not have time to be personal with all the PM's and email - let some Mods do the PM's.
    Andy doesn't even look at the PM's he receives here. He never has. This was an email and as us mods are scattered around the world and across the country, this is not a practical thing to do. Of course, if the boss gets too pissed off, he could always just ignore his emails too.



    Quote Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post
    4. Ask Mods to browse user lists or do the searches for indecency etc. I'm sure you weren't expecting the site to get this large and the whole idea of Mods is to take the load and spread it around. (the load, not the other thing )
    It's a user list of 20 thousand. I don't have time for that, nor does any other moderator here that I know of. We do take Andy's load and it is spread around. What you guys don't see us doing...

    Thank you for your ideas.
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    Ah, guess I should have realised it wasn't a PM from the headers. My bad... (reminder not to PM Andy... )

    Not so sure about vBulletin but forums normally have pretty decent search engines built in so searching for such things doesn't involve looking at 20,000 accounts and/or posts. I wasn't asking for impossible things but rather trying to address the apparent stress on Andy as inferred by the other comments.

    I do have experience of what Mods do in the background, so I wasn't just taking potshots at you/them. I am sorry if it came across that way.

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    I thought you were pretty restrained Andy, the clown is simply an argumentative idiot.

    I voted tosser.

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    What a wanker. CS is not the place for political spewings, please keep them to yourself.
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    I believe that he was after a response so he could sprout his opinion. He is a Tosser.

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    For those old enough to remember "Leo Wanker" was a class act

    This "Leo" is an actual classless wanker and has probably accidentally strayed from his usual perverted forums. Though he'll probably or has already resurfaced on this forum under another alias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richbrew View Post
    he'll probably or has already resurfaced on this forum under another alias.
    If he has, which I very much doubt, he's learned a lesson.

    If he has chosen to abandon ship completely then the members of Coffeesnobs are the winners.

    Either way the guy acted like a fully fledged jerk.

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    Tosser definitely. I don't understand why people become so offended by people's tone in an email and by this I mean the tossers reaction to Andy's email. I have found over recent years staff and others that are readily offended by short and to the point emails.

    it seems as though people expect a whole heap of diatribe to accompany written communication. As a business manager I do not have the time, and a few that have had a go at me because of short to the point instructions I send out in their small minds perceiving this to be a slight of person, I simply remind them that I am the boss and to Google Email etiquette and read it. Quite often I get a single line reply.........."Sorry".

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    I don't know what age Magyar is but I think the issue is often a bit 'generational'.
    People of my generation (Boomers) came to electronic communication later in life and had often developed their communication styles based on the 'good manners' that was so important when they were young.
    My business emails were always similar to a written communication of the previous era and would start and finish the same way - i.e. "Good Afternoon, I refer to ..." / "Thank you for your assistance..."
    I never quite got used to business emails that were full of bad grammar and incorrect spelling.
    Having said all that, I was never offended by an email that clearly did not intend to give offence, however blunt.

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    Rocky I am a late 70's vintage and I understand exactly what you have mentioned above I was raised in a country town in WA where old school is still alive and prospering.

    If you read Andy's email it was blunt and to the point and if it was me in the end of the first communication I would have thought "must be having a bad day or he gets thousands of these issues and is time poor" but in the same token I would have taken it for what it was a communicative to change my user name as someone has taken offence. Not tried to argue my point with the owner!!! Each to their own opinion, mine is above.

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    Hi Andy,
    100% agree. A tosser with little to add to this community, other than self gratifying annoyance.
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    Leo needs to get out and meet people. Just another keyboard warrior. Yawn

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    The moderator is entitled to his own standards, and users are entitled to either accept those standards or abandon the forum, thus passing ultimate judgement on the forum. As a new user myself, who previously lurked as an unregistered user, it seems to me that this forum does generally run well (although I have questions about rules related to Sponsors, such as posting links related to non-Sponsored products under discussion). In this specific matter, it seems to me that both parties took positions that were at times unhelpful. On the one hand, the new user was clearly being a smart-arse. On the other hand, the moderator need not have bothered about the quirky user name in the first instance. Sure, the proposed user name was not a wise choice, and it was suggestive, but it was not profane and I suggest it was not worth the effort of dealing with it. I submit that most people who suffer from unbearable discomfort arising from reading "CremaMyPants" probably do not suffer enough real problems in their lives. The moderator also seemed to be inexplicably impatient at one point, barely giving the user a day to respond to a message before renaming the account. Meanwhile, although the new user did allude to some pertinent considerations (e.g. about censorship) he did not help matters by attacking the forum at the end, leading me to wonder about the motivations of the user for joining the forum. In any case, the new user could simply have walked away, as I have done when faced with what I believe to be an unreasonable forum in the past. Life is larger than one's computer screen!
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    Regardless of the PM banter here, I've got to ask who is offended by Leo's username? I had a little chuckle and imo if you find that offensive, I honestly don't know how you survive in this world. There's far more shocking things going on than a witty username that may be misconstrued…..but isn't that the point (for a laugh)? How many advertisements can you count on a daily basis that have sexual connotations? Plenty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcade View Post
    Regardless of the PM banter here, I've got to ask who is offended by Leo's username? I had a little chuckle and imo if you find that offensive, I honestly don't know how you survive in this world. There's far more shocking things going on than a witty username that may be misconstrued…..but isn't that the point (for a laugh)? How many advertisements can you count on a daily basis that have sexual connotations? Plenty.
    Rather than being witty, it was just in very poor taste. Not funny, just stoopid. It would appear that about 94% of CS'ers who responded to the poll agree.

    I'd suggest there are plenty of websites more appropriate for lowbrow gutter humour- perfectly suited to people like him.

    I didn't notice anyone mourning the loss.

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    Our opinions were asked for and I gave mine. Disparaging personal remarks removed by Mods.
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    ...and your point? Seems you are in the 6%

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    Arcade, some users complained about the name....I don't personally find it offensive (I don't find many things offensive....certainly not usernames) but it is quite lame....the guy was asked to change it, but rather than doing so went into pompous undergraduate mode. There was no great social purpose being served by the username. It's pretty simple, the site owners can set whatever rules they like, and if they don't appeal to people then there's a whole world of other sites to visit.
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    FYI I haven't voted, but my point is, let me be in the 6%. I'm happy to be in the 6%. Live and let live I say

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    Barry - I agree with what you're saying, if I were asked you would get no argument from me to change. I was just surprised that the name was controversial, that's all.

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    No, the name wasn't controversial, it was unwelcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcade View Post
    Barry - I agree with what you're saying, if I were asked you would get no argument from me to change. I was just surprised that the name was controversial, that's all.
    Are you being deliberately obtuse? You honestly don't see how CremaMyPants as a username could possibly be controversial????

    I've been there, done that, got the t-shirt, set the t-shirt on fire and then moved on and could not be offended by a silly name in the slightest. However, I can certainly see how it could possibly offend others and, as this is a public forum, I defer to the greater common good and wholeheartedly support Andy's actions in this regard. After all, the username in question would definitely NOT be allowed as a personalised license plate, so why should it be allowed here?

    Lastly, while the name didn't offend me, I was annoyed by how the user thought that Coffeesnobs was the appropriate forum for his juvenile, sophomoric sense of humour.
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