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    Is ther an easy way to tell how many amps a power point can support other than the little writing on the point and also can the writing be wrong, ie can you use a 15 amp point and it only be 10 amps?

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    Re: Power points

    most household PP are 10Amp... 10Amp PP and cords have the narrow earth pin, same size as the positive and negative pin.

    "industrial" and some "shed" PP (ad cords)are 15Amp... they have the wider earth pin.

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    Re: Power points

    Well then i have 2 15amp PP in my kitchen just hope they actually have 15amp supplied to them that mean i can run the Brugetti on 2/3 rather than 1/3 which is good ;D

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    Re: Power points

    Might be safer to have them checked to confirm first.

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    Re: Power points

    Hi All,

    Standards Australia generally require that all 15A circuits are run individually in a residential (domestic) situation and protected by a 15A Fuse or Breaker. Have a look in your Meter-Box and see if there are any such protection devices installed in there, they should be clearly marked. If there arent any installed, theres a good chance that someone just replaced standard 10A GPOs with 15A units and didnt upgrade the wiring and protection to suit.

    If you are unsure about any of this, contact your local Power Authority and ask them to carry out a safety inspection for you, these are usually free of charge and will either set your mind at rest or give your local sparky some work to do if you want to retain the 15A circuits. Gotta play it safe with 240V, it can not only kill you but burn your house down too :o

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    Re: Power points


    The good thing about Australian domestic power supply is that it is 240 Volts.

    So, what commonly happens with products that are sold Internationally, is that they have to be rated to suit the global community, and in the USA, everything is 110 Volts. Which means that products that draw lots of power invariably end up with 15 amp leads.

    But the manufacturers do not change the leads back to 10 amp for 240 Volt countries. So even though the current draw requirement is halved because the voltage is doubled, most globally sold products that are shipped to Australia end up retaining the 15 amp lead. Which is overkill.

    Im not advocating that you can therefore plug in a 15 amp device into a 10 amp socket (cant fit anyway due to the bigger earth pin), but theres a high chance that your coffee machine may not draw more than 10 amps.

    Of course if you have a coffee machine with a few boilers, these big bad puppies may truly draw the 15 amp that is required. But if that were the case, the product wont be sold in the USA because it would be then drawing 30 amps over 110 Volts. And as such, it really wont be a commercially viable product - I dont expect cafe owners in the USA to get their power supply to be upped just for the coffee machine.

    Anyway, its still best to get those 15 amp power sockets checked.


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    Re: Power points

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    Most appliances - whether sold only in Australia or globally - have the lead and plug in one moulded unit..... i.e. the plug is not a separate item....

    So when the device is imported (or modified by the manufacturer) a correct lead and plug is fitted for the appliance - either a 10 Amp or a 15 Amp as the case may be.... it is NOT the same lead as used in 110V countries and certainly NOT the same plug....

    So an appliance with a 15Amp plug must be installed in a 15 Amp circuit for safety reasons - dont go filing the earth pin down (like some people do :o :o) or plug them into "bodgy" 15 Amp power points...... ::) ::)

    Overheated power runs do cause fires. :-[ :( :(

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    For peace of mind, check the compliance label on the item, usually on the bottom or some other inconspicuous place.

    It will have either the Amps draw, or the Watts, or both.

    If the amps, or current is not specified, divide the given watts by 240 (volts) and that will give amps. So a 2400w heater, divided by 240V, will pull 10 amps. The maximum for the domestic power point.


    (For the pedants among us, 240V is a nominal value, and actual voltage tends to be below that, so actual amps will be slightly higher)

    -Robusto


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    Re: Power points

    Well the machine is rate at just under 5kw and it say 20 amp so yeah it is definetly 20amp

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    Re: Power points

    Quote Originally Posted by Segrave link=1176808391/0#8 date=1176856599
    Well the machine is rate at just under 5kw and it say 20 amp so yeah it is definetly 20amp
    Id make a call to your local friendly power authority Segrave and request they complete a safety inspection for you, its normally free of charge,

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