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    Increase Forum Drama of late?

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    Hey guys/ladies/people,

    Is it just me or has there been more drama in the forum discussions then normal? Understand sometime words can be misunderstood without other forms of communication in partnership (ie body language) but gee letís all take a breath.


    The whole I donít like what or how you said it and now Iím going to take offence and get all sad about it then vent with my keyboard in a public forum is getting old.
    Lets all be human use the PM and discuss issues in private so the rest of us can enjoy reading, learning and contributing without the drama.


    Iím all for people agreeing to disagree but the recent amount people getting the sadsacks within the thread then turning into nonsense is getting old. Letís keep it all adult and use the PM button to take disagreement offline for the sake of keeping the threads useful.

    Happy to be told Iím off the mark here and not looking for validation, I just want to come here and enjoy my coffee

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    Evening MB, my feeling is its pretty tame around here now, we've had some right old ding dongs in the past, all quite civilized now.

    I do agree with your sentiments, sadly the few that need to take note wont.
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    I reckon the level of flames cycles. Unfortunately there are a few trolls that seem to love adding petrol and a match to any debate. Currently it is not as bad as some earlier times, however it is not entirely healthy either.

    Like you, rather than flame in threads I just wish people would do that via PMs.

    Viva la Difference only works well in a mutually respectful environment.

    Just my 2 cents.


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    Agree with you Tampit. In particular the way some regulars really pile it on to new joiners, it can seem most unwelcoming.

    A reset is in order.
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    It's a seasonal thing.

    Every winter humans get narky (cold, wet, lack of daylight - I don't know) but we've seen the pattern over many years.
    I have to say we do an awesome job of dealing with it, even if you don't see what we are doing behind the scenes and you would be surprised just how much you never see.

    We are also contactable, the easiest way to deal with a problem is to use the "Report Post" triangle under every post. That sends an email to myself and Javaphile and we typically discuss what we should do (ie: let it run its course or delete or watch or warn etc). We usually don't contact the person that reports the post (only so much time in a life) but we do deal with every report.

    If you see something you think is wrong, report it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    It's a seasonal thing.

    Every winter humans get narky (cold, wet, lack of daylight - I don't know) but we've seen the patter over many years.
    Interesting observation Andy, had not considered this aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by herzog View Post
    Agree with you Tampit. In particular the way some regulars really pile it on to new joiners, it can seem most unwelcoming.

    A reset is in order.
    Guess this is a slap at me Herzog (the irony) some new joiners seem not to be house trained and need a few words of advice, others are simply not what they seem to be and need to be called out.

    If you check the I'm new here thread you will note I regularly welcome new members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    It's a seasonal thing.

    Every winter humans get narky (cold, wet, lack of daylight - I don't know)
    Appropriately called Seasonal Affective Disorder or SAD: a backronym if ever I saw one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    That sends an email to myself and Javaphile and we typically discuss what we should do (ie: let it run its course or delete or watch or warn etc).
    Get popcorn ready^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackster View Post
    Get popcorn ready^
    Why don't you report Andy to himself, and see what happens? Tell him he's being very proprietorial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackster View Post
    Get popcorn ready^
    Popcorn.jpg


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    There is no drama because the iffy posts have been deleted to protect the guilty one.
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    I personally don’t have an issue with that Erimus as coffeesnobs forum isn’t something that life critical or the like but is disrespectful and annoying to not be a decent person and not be civil / have the ability to take disagreement behind closed doors (PM). Makes me wonder how some people would be in a work environment.
    enough whinging from me off the read some positive and help stuff!
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    Herzog and Yelta have sort of summed up both sides of why my post was made. New person (new or low / irregular poster) makes a post, regular poster reply, a bit of back and forth and then it just continues with bickering for posts on end. Just wish people would take it off line to discuss or simply realise that new person doesn’t want to / can’t see the other point of view and we chalk that up as waste of time posting to help and job done.
    i should learn to not read the carry on but I don’t think CoffeeSnobs what like the comments section of Facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    It's a seasonal thing.

    Every winter humans get narky (cold, wet, lack of daylight - I don't know) but we've seen the pattern over many years.
    I have to say we do an awesome job of dealing with it, even if you don't see what we are doing behind the scenes and you would be surprised just how much you never see.

    We are also contactable, the easiest way to deal with a problem is to use the "Report Post" triangle under every post. That sends an email to myself and Javaphile and we typically discuss what we should do (ie: let it run its course or delete or watch or warn etc). We usually don't contact the person that reports the post (only so much time in a life) but we do deal with every report.

    If you see something you think is wrong, report it.
    G'day Andy

    "I have to say we do an awesome job of dealing with it, even if you don't see what we are doing behind the scenes and you would be surprised just how much you never see."
    Yep, having to do the same thing on another, far less friendly site I reckon you deserve a bow. Awesome job indeed.

    Thanks.

    TampIt
    PS: I have never reported a post that "Report Post" way, although I probably should have on occasion. Nice to know it is there anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TampIt View Post
    Thanks.
    PS: I have never reported a post that "Report Post" way, although I probably should have on occasion. Nice to know it is there anyway.
    I have, report post and Add to ignore list, handy tools.

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    I'm sorry MB, I won't do it again

    I used to own and run a forum, so I know how much work it can be and appreciate what they are when they te good. I don't know what you're talking about because imo there's little going on here that isn't friendly, it's one of the better forums around.

    I don't think you're ever going to be free of the types that like to be troublesome unfortunately
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    I'm a member of another forum inhabited mainly by oldies, if your looking for an argument that's the place to be, members come and go through a revolving door, either because they've been banned or pissed off.

    A grumpier, more argumentative, irascible, perpetually offended group I've yet to encounter, I suspect they thoroughly enjoy the verbal cut and thrust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    I'm a member of another forum inhabited mainly by oldies, if your looking for an argument that's the place to be, members come and go through a revolving door, either because they've been banned or pissed off.

    A grumpier, more argumentative, irascible, perpetually offended group I've yet to encounter, I suspect they thoroughly enjoy the verbal cut and thrust.
    G'day Yelta

    You have (curse you Red Baron...) reminded me of an interest group of my misspent youth. We were renting a room (cheaply) as a non profit registered organisation. The venue was part of a large historic / heritage listed hotel which also required a moderate amount of restoration activity from every member group with a room.

    Try being a "forced member" of a 32 member committee made of of 32 wildly different interest groups who each had a room or three. The acoustic music club I was involved with at the time used to literally draw straws to decide which victim... er person... had to attend each week.

    Needless to say the Cannabis Law Reform Society did not agree often with the British Returned Soldiers League, who hated the (female Tamil) Sri Lankan Dance Society who despised the "artist in the attic" for the revolving door of femme fatales (I reckon he used to bring a different one each week to alleviate the monotony), who disliked the (elderly) Embroidery Society (ladies), who had major issues with the (young) local glassblower as her fumes were stuffing up their work... the list went on and on and on. Honestly, it was the most dysfunctional committee I have ever attended - and no, they did not enjoy the "verbal cut and thrust" as each member was convinced that their only point of view was the only valid one in the room. The previous meetings' minutes not only took well over an hour to be accepted, physical blows were all too common. Even the Oz pollies question time is a milder version of some weeks (yep, weekly meetings - shudder).

    Needless to say, some of the restoration work was "interesting" rather than good quality. No wonder I also used my newly designed and built "recording studio" each week in lieu of facing that lot after a few months. Compared to that, hosting up to seventy people at home was a breeze for the next 15 years.

    CS at its worst is only about 10% of the sheer viciousness of that lot.

    Enjoy your cuppa - and no thanks for dredging up that particular repressed memory from my distant past.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TampIt View Post
    G'day Yelta

    You have (curse you Red Baron...) reminded me of an interest group of my misspent youth. We were renting a room (cheaply) as a non profit registered organisation. The venue was part of a large historic / heritage listed hotel which also required a moderate amount of restoration activity from every member group with a room.

    Try being a "forced member" of a 32 member committee made of of 32 wildly different interest groups who each had a room or three. The acoustic music club I was involved with at the time used to literally draw straws to decide which victim... er person... had to attend each week.

    Needless to say the Cannabis Law Reform Society did not agree often with the British Returned Soldiers League, who hated the (female Tamil) Sri Lankan Dance Society who despised the "artist in the attic" for the revolving door of femme fatales (I reckon he used to bring a different one each week to alleviate the monotony), who disliked the (elderly) Embroidery Society (ladies), who had major issues with the (young) local glassblower as her fumes were stuffing up their work... the list went on and on and on. Honestly, it was the most dysfunctional committee I have ever attended - and no, they did not enjoy the "verbal cut and thrust" as each member was convinced that their only point of view was the only valid one in the room. The previous meetings' minutes not only took well over an hour to be accepted, physical blows were all too common. Even the Oz pollies question time is a milder version of some weeks (yep, weekly meetings - shudder).

    Needless to say, some of the restoration work was "interesting" rather than good quality. No wonder I also used my newly designed and built "recording studio" each week in lieu of facing that lot after a few months. Compared to that, hosting up to seventy people at home was a breeze for the next 15 years.

    CS at its worst is only about 10% of the sheer viciousness of that lot.

    Enjoy your cuppa - and no thanks for dredging up that particular repressed memory from my distant past.


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    Haha woooow... that could almost be a skit... not a very pleasant or well thought out grouping of people huh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonsk8r View Post
    Haha woooow... that could almost be a skit... not a very pleasant or well thought out grouping of people huh!
    G'day simonsk8r

    At $6 per month (i.e. peppercorn) rent whilst the renovations were happening it attracted a lot of "different" interest groups who lacked the finances to be elsewhere. In hindsight I reckon part of the dysfunction was the sobering fact that their rent would "at the very least" quadruple when the restore was completed. Ex1 suggested I use the recording studio the day after it was finished in March 1983 - the fact that she had drawn the short straw and attended the committee meeting that evening was "a mere coincidence" (yeah sure..., however that is what she said).

    Now you mention it Monty Python could have covered a real meeting as a skit and no one would believe it was actual reality.

    Tamp"the things we get ourselves into when we are younger"It
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    Quote Originally Posted by TampIt View Post
    G'day simonsk8r

    At $6 per month (i.e. peppercorn) rent whilst the renovations were happening it attracted a lot of "different" interest groups who lacked the finances to be elsewhere. In hindsight I reckon part of the dysfunction was the sobering fact that their rent would "at the very least" quadruple when the restore was completed. Ex1 suggested I use the recording studio the day after it was finished in March 1983 - the fact that she had drawn the short straw and attended the committee meeting that evening was "a mere coincidence" (yeah sure..., however that is what she said).

    Now you mention it Monty Python could have covered a real meeting as a skit and no one would believe it was actual reality.

    Tamp"the things we get ourselves into when we are younger"It

    Did you get The Triffids into the studio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Did you get The Triffids into the studio?
    G'day Barry O'Speedwagon

    Nope - acoustic songwriters & groups, not electric, and I only recorded our "once a month" guest nights - the other evenings were "whoever showed up". These days I wish I had recorded a few of the electric ones... like that busker in Freo that was so, so good on electric dobro (JB). We ran it non profit - although I sprang for all the tape costs out of my second business (tax ruling) / hobby (my take).

    I did manage to get a few international / interstate visitors there as well as locals - I always gave them a free cassette of their gig, and quite a few released it as a limited edition to those in the trade (or in the know). I still have quite a few Harmon Kardon cassette decks in storage from that process (I did all cassettes in real time into a wall of separate decks using Maxell and TDK cassette tapes).

    Nowadays we know that Ampex 10" Grand Master open reel tapes had faulty glue on their substrate for the last ten+ years before they went broke. About 2/3rds (200) of my tapes are Ampex, so recovering what I can will be a priority once my new build is finished. Luckily the other 100 or so are Maxell, TDK and Memorex - they should be OK. Ironically, the cassettes may now be better than those Ampex open reels (damn it). Losing my music room was such a disaster in more ways than one - I had only just started transferring all my recordings to "best digital at the time" 44/16. At least new ones will eventually be done at 192/24 or higher so they should be a rough equivalent to the open reels in sound quality (CDs just aren't even close). Not a bad achievement for a finance / IT / auditing dude I guess.

    Now back to a cuppa (ahhhhh)


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