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    The other side of the coin is that its now possible to order many items from Amazon U.S., prices are good, quality very good, shipping is prompt and delivery unbelievably fast.

    We have ordered and received a number of smaller, lower priced objects over the past week or so, all have shipped within hours of placing the order and have arrived on our doorstep within a few short days of ordering, they beat most Australian suppliers on a break when it comes to shipping and delivery.

    Which brings me to tracking, they certainly have that nailed as well, as the following cut and paste shows.

    Asked the driver if he was seeing much coming through from Amazon, US, told me he was being deluged with packages.

    Result Summary

    Waybill:0000000000 Delivered - Signed for by Friday, September 20, 2019 at 17:15 Origin Service Area: COLUMBUS - WEST, OH - ETNA - USA Destination Service Area: ADELAIDE - NORTH YELTA - AUSTRALIA 1 Piece
    Friday, September 20, 2019 Location Time Piece
    14 Delivered - Signed for by NORTH YELTA 17:15 1 Piece
    Thursday, September 19, 2019 Location Time Piece
    13 Delivery arranged no details expected ADELAIDE - AUSTRALIA 06:50 1 Piece
    12 Arrived at Sort Facility ADELAIDE - AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE - AUSTRALIA 06:37 1 Piece
    11 Departed Facility in SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA 05:43 1 Piece
    10 Processed at SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA 05:42 1 Piece
    Wednesday, September 18, 2019 Location Time Piece
    9 Clearance processing complete at SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA 23:03 1 Piece
    8 Arrived at Sort Facility SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA 22:25 1 Piece
    7 Customs status updated SYDNEY - AUSTRALIA 13:42
    Tuesday, September 17, 2019 Location Time Piece
    6 Departed Facility in CINCINNATI HUB - USA CINCINNATI HUB, OH - USA 05:31 1 Piece
    5 Processed at CINCINNATI HUB - USA CINCINNATI HUB, OH - USA 02:52 1 Piece
    4 Arrived at Sort Facility CINCINNATI HUB - USA CINCINNATI HUB, OH - USA 01:53 1 Piece
    Monday, September 16, 2019 Location Time Piece
    3 Departed Facility in COLUMBUS - WEST - USA COLUMBUS - WEST, OH - USA 22:48 1 Piece
    2 Processed at COLUMBUS - WEST - USA COLUMBUS - WEST, OH - USA 22:47 1 Piece
    1 Shipment picked up COLUMBUS - WEST, OH - USA 20:00 1 Piece

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    The other side of the coin is that its now possible to order many items from Amazon U.S., prices are good, quality very good, shipping is prompt and delivery unbelievably fast.
    If you join up to Amazon Prime for $59/yr you also get -

    FREE Two-day domestic delivery
    FREE Standard International Delivery on eligible orders over $49
    Prime Video
    Prime Music
    Prime Reading
    Twitch Prime

    The Amazon Prime Video streaming service (free with membership) has a few decent things on it. The free domestic shipping comes in useful too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeLotta View Post
    If you join up to Amazon Prime for $59/yr you also get -

    FREE Two-day domestic delivery
    FREE Standard International Delivery on eligible orders over $49
    Prime Video
    Prime Music
    Prime Reading
    Twitch Prime

    The Amazon Prime Video streaming service (free with membership) has a few decent things on it. The free domestic shipping comes in useful too.
    Yep! the better half was onto that quick smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeLotta View Post

    The Amazon Prime Video streaming service (free with membership) has a few decent things on it.
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    Amazon are assholes. Instead of cooling the warehouses, they just order a standby stream of ambulances to take the order pickers to hospital as they drop from exhaustion and heat stress.
    I don't know why these huge money making companies can't give their workers a fair days pay and reasonable conditions.
    There was a podcast about them, called brownbox, by radiolab. Certainly an insight into the way they treat workers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackster View Post
    Amazon are assholes. Instead of cooling the warehouses, they just order a standby stream of ambulances to take the order pickers to hospital as they drop from exhaustion and heat stress.
    I don't know why these huge money making companies can't give their workers a fair days pay and reasonable conditions.
    There was a podcast about them, called brownbox, by radiolab. Certainly an insight into the way they treat workers
    Jackster you couldn't be more right. As well as pickers also drivers etc. Multiple stories in multiple countries about, poor form by one of the richest people in the world. It isn't worth saving a dollar if the cost is so high for those who do. I wouldn't do business with them at any price.

    They are also prepared to shaft their vendors. They regularly do 'authenticity tests' where the vendor has to supply copies of invoices showing where they purchased from, how much, etc. Not that long later after they know your sales on their platform they go direct guaranteeing to purchase your sales volume as a minimum and cut you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackster View Post
    Amazon are assholes. Instead of cooling the warehouses, they just order a standby stream of ambulances to take the order pickers to hospital as they drop from exhaustion and heat stress.
    Yeh, I think you might find that they do actually have air con at their Pennsylvania fulfillment centre now (after the bad press in 2011). I'm not aware of any claim that the same thing happened here. It's probably advisable to cite a source if you're going to sledge these mongrels with specific allegations. They just rip their staff and suppliers in a bunch of other ways.

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    Top two results to a Google search for "Amazon workers Australia"

    "What it's like to work in an Amazon Australia warehouse"
    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-...08?pfmredir=sm

    One day we were picking so fast, they made us give ourselves a round of applause," Amazonian 1 says. "Then they made us all go home early, and we didn't get paid for our whole shift."

    ...

    Heather Ikin, chair of Australia's College of Organisational Psychologists, says Amazon does not appear to be taking any responsibility for the "culture of fear" it has cultivated.
    "In Amazon's 'hellscape', workers face insecurity and crushing targets"
    https://amp.smh.com.au/business/work...07-p502ao.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeLotta View Post
    If you join up to Amazon Prime for $59/yr you also get -

    FREE Two-day domestic delivery
    FREE Standard International Delivery on eligible orders over $49
    Prime Video
    Prime Music
    Prime Reading
    Twitch Prime

    The Amazon Prime Video streaming service (free with membership) has a few decent things on it. The free domestic shipping comes in useful too.
    Just bought a $39 electronic thing from Amazon Au. Not eligible for prime, so $13 postage. One-third the unit cost.

    At least we get to watch The Grand Tour.

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    Hmmm...In the USA some Amazon prime members get free same day delivery....

    I am an Amazon prime member and bought my matchbox-size gadget 3 days ago on Sept 21.

    But I have yet to get confirmation it has left the warehouse... and it won't arrive until October 2 to Oct 15.

    We are poor cousins in the retail world.

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    This morning I get the much-awaited confirmation that my gadget has been shipped. And, surprise surprise....being shipped by China Post.

    So the company, posing as an Australian company on Amazon, is sending me stuff from China and the ETA now is October 15, a full 24 days after I put in the order.

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    Yeah, I've experienced that too Robusto and in the end, the product was total rubbish...
    Besides that, you can often find better deals, all round, by doing a bit of research and then buy local. Might pay a little more but at least one is dealing with an actual Oz business...

    Mal.
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    Haha, Mal, you are so right.

    I've jockingly said there are 3 things the Chinese must do if they want to indeed conquer the world:
    Longer power cords, shorter shoelaces, and better quality control.

    The irony is I am buying a Chinese volt/amps meter to replace the one which stopped working after two weeks of use.
    You would think once bitten....twice shy.

    If I was paid for my time researching it, then several thousand dollars have been invested already!! And all for a $39 gadget.
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    Mal couldn't agree with you more!

    We all live in a global environment these days, far more than ever before. The reality is when we choose to purchase outside Australia, either for convenience or cost saving, a greater percentage of your spend leaves Australia. That is money which won't get spent in your or your employers business, wont pay tax to support a pension, wont spend money in businesses your super owns, etc. The USA already has the biggest economy in the world, China the second, no pressing need for us to add to their economies of scale and weaken our own economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 338 View Post
    ...We all live in a global environment these days...
    ...no pressing need for us to add to their economies of scale and weaken our own economy...
    If we don't buy from them, they won't buy from us.
    Quid pro quo.

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    OCD, they don't already. There are large technological platforms like Amazon, Ebay and Alibaba which are changing the face of trade more the older larger volume trade. These work better getting their product into us than ours into their economy. Amazon very much so, their placement formula for search results rewards price, warehousing (internal or external to Amazon), speed of previous deliveries, Amazon margins, volume, etc. It is very hard for Aussie suppliers to trump local suppliers on those metrics.

    Amazon represents something like 47% of all online sales in the USA. We can sign all the trade deals we like, but this large private company is unregulated (as you would expect a private company to be). As Aussies if we keep choosing an Amazon product because it is $5 cheaper we cant be too surprised if our neighbour becomes unemployed and starts purloining our grocery deliveries. I sound like a commie but extreme social inequality isn't that great. I have friends in Brazil with full time armed guards, not really how I would like to live.
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