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Thread: Need to stop dropping the clutch!!

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    Need to stop dropping the clutch!!

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    Hi all,

    Long story short, was driving home the other day, down shifted from 5th to 4th pretty hard on the freeway. Next thing, I hear a twang (obvious once you see the clutch plate below). All of a sudden, couldn't shift, but the clutch was still engaged, and I was getting feedback from the pedal.

    Luckily, in my sillier years, taught myself the art of rev matching, so managed to get through a few gears and limp to the mechanics.

    Below is the clutch plate they pulled out. I'd also chewed half the teeth off the flywheel ring gear somehow. Long story short, I need to chill a bit on the road, if I don't want another $1600 repair bill!! Thinking I'm going to tape a copy of this one to the dash, so I look at it every time I feel like going silly
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    Sheesh, looks like the other 2 springs (LHS & RHS in picture) weren’t far off either..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tampinator View Post
    Sheesh, looks like the other 2 springs (LHS & RHS in picture) weren’t far off either..

    Yeah! Lots of stress marks/tears in the metal! Kind of impressive. I only have this problem of aggressive driving when I'm in my manual. My other car is an Outlander with CVT auto. I find as soon as I drive that, I'm calm as calm can be! Need to re-program my brain somehow!!
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    Why drive aggressively? your a danger to both yourself and other road users and, as you have discovered, its expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizZ84 View Post
    Yeah! Lots of stress marks/tears in the metal! Kind of impressive. I only have this problem of aggressive driving when I'm in my manual. My other car is an Outlander with CVT auto. I find as soon as I drive that, I'm calm as calm can be! Need to re-program my brain somehow!!
    You need to learn how to drive It's called vehicle sympathy
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    What's a clutch?

    Both kids (18 & 20yo) got their manual licence but they were the only ones in all their friends that did, at least they can drive the Snob van when they need to move something.

    What car was this in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    What's a clutch?

    Both kids (18 & 20yo) got their manual licence but they were the only ones in all their friends that did, at least they can drive the Snob van when they need to move something.

    What car was this in?
    Haha, yeah, guess it's a dying art!! Glad to hear your kids got manual licences, I honestly think it's important -- that many people have gotten in my car and gone "oh wow, a manual huh..?"

    It came out of an '04 Civic sedan. I've gone to upgrade several times, but just can't justify moving the old girl on. She's about to clock over 270k. I've had her since about 160k, and for around 6-7 years. In that time, this is the first major mechanical fail, and the only other times I've spent any real money has been a set of tyres, and a major service a few years back. She drives honestly like a new car, and now with the brand new clutch, I'm just as happy as the day I bought her!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Why drive aggressively? your a danger to both yourself and other road users and, as you have discovered, its expensive.
    When I say aggressive, I mean to the car, not other drivers, but yes can get expensive :-p

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    Heavy Rigid certification comes in handy too...

    Quite amazing these days, how many manufacturers offer dual clutch, constant mesh gearboxes as options. Even our humble i30.

    Mal.
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    I have never owned anything but Manual gearbox vehicles as I am a lifelong car-enthusiast and really enjoy changing gears, particularly in the sports car.
    I occasionally get a bit over-enthusiastic in the sports car, banging the gearshift through the gears, but only on the deserted 'B' roads.
    That is a major pressure-plate failure - I have never seen anything like it.
    I have had a couple of clutches fail on my family cars over 30 years or so - both in traffic, which was 'interesting'.
    I taught both my kids to drive on Manuals and they both seem to prefer them which surprises me as neither are interested in cars.
    If I am still alive/driving when I am 80 I could maybe see myself driving an automatic but I am always concerned at the number of older folks who have bad crashes (often involving pedestrians) when they hit the accelerator instead of the brake. Harder to do in a Manual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    That is a major pressure-plate failure - I have never seen anything like it.
    I have had a couple of clutches fail on my family cars over 30 years or so - both in traffic, which was 'interesting'.
    Yeah, me either. And it's not like it's some generic clutch, it's an Exedy plate. Saying that, could be a decade or more old, I have never changed the clutch in this car. There wasn't a lot of meat left anyway, so would have copped the bill now or in 6-12 months time!

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    Probably an accumulative thing and let go with one final push. The rest of the drive-train has probably copped a battering too over time going by your comment of a "Hard change from 5th to 4th".

    When manual cars were the norm, expensive lessons were often learnt by the young and excitable (myself included). After big clutch, diff or gearbox repair bills, many just settled down. Those that didn't, walked, caught public transport or relied on friends for lifts until they could afford the repairs. The money would be much better spent on Coffee Gear.
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    Caution: the following activity could be hazardous to your wealth. Recommended for brain dead hoons only.
    *Depress clutch.
    *Engage first gear.
    *Floor right foot.
    *Slip left foot off depressed clutch peddle.
    Almost guaranteed to drop a wheelie or your drive train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCD View Post
    Caution: the following activity could be hazardous to your wealth. Recommended for brain dead hoons only.
    *Depress clutch.
    *Engage first gear.
    *Floor right foot.
    *Slip left foot off depressed clutch peddle.
    Almost guaranteed to drop a wheelie or your drive train.
    Haha! Maybe in my younger years... no wheelies in a front wheel drive, just axel tramp 9/10 times.

    I had this tourquie Cressida years back that used to make some nice smoke off both rear wheels, with the heavy duty LSD they stuck in those things! Miss that car, but the old 7M engines blow a lot of head gaskets.

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    Kizz, I don't know which model Cressida you had but this is the one that always appealed to me - the '88 to '92 model.
    They were a 3 litre twin-cam injected straight-six with 142 Kw and were a very well made cruiser. Looked much nicer in the flesh than the photo below.



    OCD's post reminded me of a crazy mate I had in high school (circa 1970).
    His dad had two cars - a Falcon Fairmont V8 and a Morris Major (for mum).
    Ian would mostly get the Major to go out with we boys. He couldn't resist revving it up and dropping the clutch and every time he would break the rear axle.
    His dad couldn't work out why this car kept breaking axles. He would have had a heart attack if he'd seen what we did in the Fairmont V8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    Kizz, I don't know which model Cressida you had but this is the one that always appealed to me - the '88 to '92 model.
    They were a 3 litre twin-cam injected straight-six with 142 Kw and were a very well made cruiser. Looked much nicer in the flesh than the photo below.



    OCD's post reminded me of a crazy mate I had in high school (circa 1970).
    His dad had two cars - a Falcon Fairmont V8 and a Morris Major (for mum).
    Ian would mostly get the Major to go out with we boys. He couldn't resist revving it up and dropping the clutch and every time he would break the rear axle.
    His dad couldn't work out why this car kept breaking axles. He would have had a heart attack if he'd seen what we did in the Fairmont V8.
    That's the one, Rocky!!

    I'd have it again in a heartbeat, and often regret that I sold her instead of fixing the head gasket. The old girl was immaculate, and all original. Only real cons of those cars were poor economy to the tone of about 12L/100km, and the fragile top ends on the 7M engines. Pros of the Grande that I had were that Toyota decided to stick a Hilux LSD in the back, so they were bulletproof! The straight 6 hummed along smooth as can be, and the transmission was beautiful for an older auto! It was essentially like driving a nice leather couch to work every day :-)
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